Test E / Superdrol Cycle Issues

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Hello everyone - I began this cycle on May 22nd. I haven’t touched AAS in like 8-10 years.

Cycle History: I have ran Superdrol, Test E, Epistane, T-Bol in the past.

Current Cycle:
Test E Week 1 - 12 or 16 (depending on sides) -I start week 8 tomorrow.
500mg per week. Monday AM 250mg pin and Thursday evening 250mg pin (UGL)

Week 2 - 4 (cut it down to 3.5 weeks due to sides)
Superdrol 30mg per day

Week 1 - 4 - Proviron 50mg per day (still have 1 weeks worth left but cut it due to the libido sides in case it was impacting

Daily cialis 10mg pharma grade for well being. I was still a raging bull with libido until week 3/4 which is why I stopped the orals early just in case

I didn't run an AI along side until last week when I first took my bloods because of bloat. I began the AI on 6/27. Libido is getting better. I started Aromasin 25 mg for first 3 days. Then 12.5mg EOD. Now that I saw my estrogen total levels (450 from blood work i don’t have E2), I am doing 12.5mg every day moving forward of aromasin.

(I also have pharma grade Adex on hand, Nolva (UGL) on hand, clomid (UGL) on hand, HCG on hand but idk how to mix it. I’m waiting for more HCG, BAC Water, and PT-141)

I also take orange triad multi vitamin, fish oil 4x, and Defend Cycle Support (to assist with the orals toxicity and protect organs)

Concerns: My libido and erections isn't near as good before this cycle, my lipids looks like crap due to Superdrol i assume, idk my e2 levels but total estrogen last week when I took blood work is through the roof

I'd like to figure out how to dial in the perfect doses for the blast to ensure my libido maintains as high as possible, blast/cruise possibilities vs PCT,

Most important stuff to me is dialing the doses and ensuring my libido and erecting strength is good rn. Since starting aromasin, it’s been better but it’s still weak compared to prior cycle. Erections are definitely not as good or I’m ejaculating much quicker. It’s causing issues with the ladies.

I need help here and can share any information from my blood work. Thank you for reading and all your expertise.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

All blood work results from 6/27 are attached.

 

[FloridaMan]

For 500mg a week I normally need 1.5 to 2mg adex a week. My rule is 1mg per 250mg test for my body.

Your just going to have to wait a week and get new bloods to see how your AI dose is going. We can speculate until the cows come home, but blood work with answer your question.

Your estrogen is spiked and your libido and erections will take time to recover even when you get back into range.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Hey Florida Man. Thanks for your response. Do you believe arimidex will help with the erections and libido faster than aromasin? Currently, I’m taking 12.5mg of aromasin per day. Should I bump up to 25mg this week and go from there? Or switch to adex?

How long do you think it’ll take time to recover from your experience? Is there anything that can be done to speed this up?

I can take bloods again and see how it looks. I’ll try to go this week if I can. If not, early next week.

 

[FloridaMan]

Hey Florida Man. Thanks for your response. Do you believe arimidex will help with the erections and libido faster than aromasin? Currently, I’m taking 12.5mg of aromasin per day. Should I bump up to 25mg this week and go from there? Or switch to adex?

How long do you think it’ll take time to recover from your experience? Is there anything that can be done to speed this up?

I can take bloods again and see how it looks. I’ll try to go this week if I can. If not, early next week.

Just keep using what you have, no need to switch things up for no reason.

Also just keep with the 12.5mg ed until you get new bloodwork, next week will be fine and give everything time to fully equalize. Once you get the results back you can adjust up/down from there.

Libido and erection strength can take as long as it takes. Can't put a number on that, but let's say for the sake of conversation 2-3 weeks after you get everything in order.

There isn't really anything you can do to speed up this particular aspect of "recovery"

 

[Smont]

Just keep using what you have, no need to switch things up for no reason.

Also just keep with the 12.5mg ed until you get new bloodwork, next week will be fine and give everything time to fully equalize. Once you get the results back you can adjust up/down from there.

Libido and erection strength can take as long as it takes. Can't put a number on that, but let's say for the sake of conversation 2-3 weeks after you get everything in order.

There isn't really anything you can do to speed up this particular aspect of "recovery"

Viagra/cailis, It won't speed up or fix the problem, but it will put a bandaid on it while things are coming back to normal. I would pop 20mg cailis and continue with 5mg a day. He should already be doing it anyways for the other 50 health benifits

 

[Mikereyn513]

Viagra/cailis, It won't speed up or fix the problem, but it will put a bandaid on it while things are coming back to normal. I would pop 20mg cailis and continue with 5mg a day. He should already be doing it anyways for the other 50 health benifits

I loke cialis but the constant boners get really annoying. For me they get like painfully hard with cialis, I'm not even joking. But hey op you might like that. Thar was with 20mg btw

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

I’m accustomed to cialis and viagra before this cycle when I had to take care of business many times a day. I tried both cialis and viagra 20mg and 100mg when high estrogen and they wouldn’t even work lol. I was scared.

Now it’s a hit or Miss with them. So I assume estrogen is dropping and it’s a better sign. I’ll take 20mg cialis daily. I was doing 10mg per day before hoping it would help.

this really makes me feel better. It’s very scary when your dick stops working or faced with uncomfortable situations with hot ladies you would otherwise destroy before having these problems.

question: If I decide to stay on and do blast/cruise, and figure out these levels and estrogen levels out, will I ever have to worry again about libido or erection strength? Or does it become super smooth sailing from here on out? I’d like your personal experience.

 

[FloridaMan]

Viagra/cailis, It won't speed up or fix the problem, but it will put a bandaid on it while things are coming back to normal. I would pop 20mg cailis and continue with 5mg a day. He should already be doing it anyways for the other 50 health benifits

I agree, I take 10mg m/w/f for everything else it does for me. The boners are just a plus lol.... I'm gonna need to find a couple more supplements to control my hct levels for this EQ blast I'm about to start. Gonna be a long one.

 

[Smont]

I loke cialis but the constant boners get really annoying. For me they get like painfully hard with cialis, I'm not even joking. But hey op you might like that. Thar was with 20mg btw

They don't give you boners unless there's some kind of stimulus, you just a horny dog lol

 

[Smont]

I agree, I take 10mg m/w/f for everything else it does for me. The boners are just a plus lol.... I'm gonna need to find a couple more supplements to control my hct levels for this EQ blast I'm about to start. Gonna be a long one.

Natural route, avoid iron supplements and don't eat a ton of red meat, take grapefruit extract, omega 3's, stay hydrated, keep up with cardio at a somewhat challenging pace.

Also fiber and antioxidants have a lot of positive effects for this.

Not natural route I'd say telemasartan should be a good addition to the cycle.

 

[FloridaMan]

Natural route, avoid iron supplements and don't eat a ton of red meat, take grapefruit extract, omega 3's, stay hydrated, keep up with cardio at a somewhat challenging pace.

Also fiber and antioxidants have a lot of positive effects for this.

Not natural route I'd say telemasartan should be a good addition to the cycle.

I do the no/little red meat and grapefruit. Ran out of omega 3 supplements ages ago and just never bothered to get more lol and I'm gonna get a antioxidant supp.

I just switched from a low rep powerlifting program to something much more geared to bodybuilding, so I'm struggling as is with cardio just lifting hahaha I'll have to add cardio in eventually.

I really hope the EQ train isn't disappointing, so many mixed results online. But it's always little 12-16 week cycles. I don't really run injectables shorter than 25 weeks and plan for a whole year "on". So fingers crossed I end up looking like a giant veiny penis by the end. One thing my parents gave me was god like vascularity genetics, I have midsection veins at 25% bodyfat, and cut down to about 15% for this slow bulk. Hoping to maintain that and the some the whole way.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

I loke cialis but the constant boners get really annoying. For me they get like painfully hard with cialis, I'm not even joking. But hey op you might like that. Thar was with 20mg btw

LOL - I’m down for constant boners again. I’m a horn dog too before this cycle and I want to be back like that

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Natural route, avoid iron supplements and don't eat a ton of red meat, take grapefruit extract, omega 3's, stay hydrated, keep up with cardio at a somewhat challenging pace.

Also fiber and antioxidants have a lot of positive effects for this.

Not natural route I'd say telemasartan should be a good addition to the cycle.

What exactly would telemasartan do in this department and would my doc prescribe that to me? How has it helped you? I’ll do more of the natural route starting today.

I did take 20mg cialis earlier in the evening (7pm) and before bed, (3am) I smashed my girl and was successful and orgasmed. I didn’t wake up with morning wood today. I’ll take another 20mg today and continue to do so and see what happens.

I will continue aromasin at 12.5mg every day hoping these issues go all away soon. Blood work scheduled for early next week.

How much HCG per week would help too? Once my testes become fuller, would this help as well? I’m waiting for it in the mail.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

I do the no/little red meat and grapefruit. Ran out of omega 3 supplements ages ago and just never bothered to get more lol and I'm gonna get a antioxidant supp.

I just switched from a low rep powerlifting program to something much more geared to bodybuilding, so I'm struggling as is with cardio just lifting hahaha I'll have to add cardio in eventually.

I really hope the EQ train isn't disappointing, so many mixed results online. But it's always little 12-16 week cycles. I don't really run injectables shorter than 25 weeks and plan for a whole year "on". So fingers crossed I end up looking like a giant veiny penis by the end. One thing my parents gave me was god like vascularity genetics, I have midsection veins at 25% bodyfat, and cut down to about 15% for this slow bulk. Hoping to maintain that and the some the whole way.

Good luck on your upcoming EQ blast! I’ve never tried EQ before. Where in Florida do you live? I’m in Miami area.

 

[FloridaMan]

What exactly would telemasartan do in this department and would my doc prescribe that to me? How has it helped you? I’ll do more of the natural route starting today.

I believe he was speaking to me about my hct levels in that reply.

 

[FloridaMan]

Good luck on your upcoming EQ blast! I’ve never tried EQ before. Where in Florida do you live? I’m in Miami area.

I'm floating around in central Florida

 

[Smont]

I believe he was speaking to me about my hct levels in that reply.

Correct, it also slightly lowers bp, lowers LDL, reduces water retention, has some positiveeffects on body composition, positive effects on anxiety. As long as your not allergic to it, it's a Very good on cycle support drug. It's a ARB. It should also have some positive effects on ed

 

[totalwar]

Hey bro, like everyone said. Keeping up with the AI dose will stable out your e2, especially with aromasin as it's a suicide inhibitor and will eradicate the aromatase enzyme till your body creates new ones. No estrogen rebound. May take a bit of time but don't up the dose and crash your E. Cialis helpful in meantime. You'll just have to let time pass till superdrol lipid wrecking effects are far off enough for body to recover. Welcome to superdrol lmao.

 

[Mikereyn513]

LOL - I’m down for constant boners again. I’m a horn dog too before this cycle and I want to be back like that

I'm the opposite..no matter what I use libido skyrockets..the only time it goes to normal is when carbs are dropped to >200 grams and I'm doing over an hour of cardio daily

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Hey bro, like everyone said. Keeping up with the AI dose will stable out your e2, especially with aromasin as it's a suicide inhibitor and will eradicate the aromatase enzyme till your body creates new ones. No estrogen rebound. May take a bit of time but don't up the dose and crash your E. Cialis helpful in meantime. You'll just have to let time pass till superdrol lipid wrecking effects are far off enough for body to recover. Welcome to superdrol lmao.

LOL yeah - damn Superdrol. I’ll continue Defend Cycle Support throughout. Regarding lipids, will this cause ED and erection issues too?

I will continue with 12.5mg of aromasin. Hopefully I get back to normal soon.

if I do, I was thinking about ending my cycle with Anavar and cutting some fat. Thoughts on that as well?

 

[Mikereyn513]

LOL yeah - damn Superdrol. I’ll continue Defend Cycle Support throughout. Regarding lipids, will this cause ED and erection issues too?

I will continue with 12.5mg of aromasin. Hopefully I get back to normal soon.

if I do, I was thinking about ending my cycle with Anavar and cutting some fat. Thoughts on that as well?

Anavar doesn't burn fat. Doing an hour of cardio in a caloric deficit does. It will keep you from going catabolic and keep your strength up when your tired and weak

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Correct - that’s what I meant. I will transition to a caloric deficit diet if blood work looks better and intro Anavar towards the end of the blast. Thanks for the input!

I just don’t want to impact libido and erection strength even further until I get this all squared away. It’s better now but not perfect yet.

Anavar doesn't burn fat. Doing an hour of cardio in a caloric deficit does. It will keep you from going catabolic and keep your strength up when your tired and weak

ct

 

[totalwar]

LOL yeah - damn Superdrol. I’ll continue Defend Cycle Support throughout. Regarding lipids, will this cause ED and erection issues too?

I will continue with 12.5mg of aromasin. Hopefully I get back to normal soon.

if I do, I was thinking about ending my cycle with Anavar and cutting some fat. Thoughts on that as well?

Yeah obv what miker said hes a vet; diet cardio ect for fat loss but year var will be great in a deficit In all aspects so yes good compound to use WHILE cutting. The asin will set you straight don't worry bro. Dude I know, I love super lmao but after 4 days I feel like **** everywhere but the gymI just accept ill have trashed lipids for a bit afterward.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Yeah obv what miker said hes a vet; diet cardio ect for fat loss but year var will be great in a deficit In all aspects so yes good compound to use WHILE cutting. The asin will set you straight don't worry bro. Dude I know, I love super lmao but after 4 days I feel like **** everywhere but the gymI just accept ill have trashed lipids for a bit afterward.

haha yes I felt like dog **** except the gym with super. It feels amazing otherwise though and my libido and erections were through the roof.

I will keep everyone posted throughout this time and how it goes. As well as when the new bloods are taken and I have the results.

I hope this helps someone in the near future. I was close to giving up on gear after this experience lol.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Update: I’m continuing to take 12.5mg aromasin every day and libido/erection strength is improving. I’m taking the daily 20mg cialis as recommended and it’s working much better. Exciting! I’m still not 100% but getting better and better.

I received an update my HCG is arriving on Friday. How should I dose this so it’s effective since I’m starting late into my cycle with it. How long do you see positive results with balls and semen volume after starting?

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Bump - how much HCG do you recommend I do starting into Week 9 of my cycle. Should I do 500 x2 IU per week on pin days?

I have 10000iu. I plan to run test E blast for 16 weeks total and then cruise at 200mg per week there after

 

[Hyde]

Bump - how much HCG do you recommend I do starting into Week 9 of my cycle. Should I do 500 x2 IU per week on pin days?

I have 10000iu. I plan to run test E blast for 16 weeks total and then cruise at 200mg per week there after

That’s basically the dose you would run weekly over a cycle to keep nuts from shrinking.

Since you let them atrophy, you will want a bigger dose to wake them up. About a week after your last shot, take that 10,000iu and spread it out over a 2 week period (~1,500iu eod). Test E/C takes about 3 weeks to clear enough to begin SERM therapy, so blasting that HCG the last 2 weeks of that will stoke your nuts and provide some test & estrogen to function well during that time. Now they will be more responsive to your SERM after that.

Use your Exemestane as needed with the HCG; it generates a lot of estrogen.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

That’s basically the dose you would run weekly over a cycle to keep nuts from shrinking.

Since you let them atrophy, you will want a bigger dose to wake them up. About a week after your last shot, take that 10,000iu and spread it out over a 2 week period (~1,500iu eod). Test E/C takes about 3 weeks to clear enough to begin SERM therapy, so blasting that HCG the last 2 weeks of that will stoke your nuts and provide some test & estrogen to function well during that time. Now they will be more responsive to your SERM after that.

Use your Exemestane as needed with the HCG; it generates a lot of estrogen.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Hyde - thanks for the reply. I plan to cruise at 200mg after I finish the 16 week blast and want to bring them back now. What dosage do you recommend and when to take it? And when should I drop it?

 

[Hyde]

Hyde - thanks for the reply. I plan to cruise at 200mg after I finish the 16 week blast and want to bring them back now. What dosage do you recommend and when to take it? And when should I drop it?

Well, understand you will probably plump them up, but they may shrink back if you continue to cruise. Testicular volume in response to suppression is a funny thing. Some guys don’t shrink much and some are joke about raisins. And certain compounds make a difference; I always cruise but they’re much bigger now with no HCH compared to when I use some Deca, for example.

HCG is going to probably add a lot of estrogen, something you’re fighting. I would probably try a milder dose longer since you don’t need them ready to respond to a PCT at a certain time. I would consider 500iu eod and see what that does, bumping to 1,000iu if I couldn’t notice any difference at all in a week or so.

It’s not an exact science. But you can damage leydig cells with overexposure to it so better to start lighter than heavier when in doubt.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Well, understand you will probably plump them up, but they may shrink back if you continue to cruise. Testicular volume in response to suppression is a funny thing. Some guys don’t shrink much and some are joke about raisins. And certain compounds make a difference; I always cruise but they’re much bigger now with no HCH compared to when I use some Deca, for example.

HCG is going to probably add a lot of estrogen, something you’re fighting. I would probably try a milder dose longer since you don’t need them ready to respond to a PCT at a certain time. I would consider 500iu eod and see what that does, bumping to 1,000iu if I couldn’t notice any difference at all in a week or so.

It’s not an exact science. But you can damage leydig cells with overexposure to it so better to start lighter than heavier when in doubt.

Thank you for all your input Hyde. I’ll try 500iu every other day and continue Aromasin at 12.5mg per day.
I agree with overexposure and also want to keep estrogen at bay.

do you think 500iu eod for 3 weeks will be fine? Then do 500 or 1000iu each will work? Should I continue taking it throughout my cruise as well?

I haven’t been able to find good answers and appreciate all your feedback.

 

[Hyde]

It will be “fine”, but I can’t say if it will be sufficient or not or to what degree. See how it goes.

If you intend to stay on HCG, I would be looking at something like 500iu twice a week, or even as low as 250iu 3x a week. Whenever you pin it, you’re probably going to have a small surge in estrogen and libido.

It’s one more thing to manage. I found that not incorporating it made estrogen easier to stay on top of, libido & erections more predictable/stable, and I still have pretty solid testicular volume without it. I also am totally done having kids, fixed, and intend to be on testosterone for the rest of my life, so I don’t care if my testicles ever work. Someone who may try to reproduce later would probably be wiser to maintain testicular function.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

It will be “fine”, but I can’t say if it will be sufficient or not or to what degree. See how it goes.

If you intend to stay on HCG, I would be looking at something like 500iu twice a week, or even as low as 250iu 3x a week. Whenever you pin it, you’re probably going to have a small surge in estrogen and libido.

It’s one more thing to manage. I found that not incorporating it made estrogen easier to stay on top of, libido & erections more predictable/stable, and I still have pretty solid testicular volume without it. I also am totally done having kids, fixed, and intend to be on testosterone for the rest of my life, so I don’t care if my testicles ever work. Someone who may try to reproduce later would probably be wiser to maintain testicular function.

got it! Thank you for your input. I would like to be able to reproduce some day and I plan to be on testosterone for life if I am able to manage the sides and libido appropriately.

I will continue taking 500iu HCG EOD and will report my findings. I hope my AI dose of Aromasin 12.5mg to be sufficient. I don’t want to deal with high estro sides again.

I was also under the impression sexual function on steroids will be better if I take HCG and have more semen volume. Is it safe to assume libido increases and the recharge time between orgasms will be much better? I’ve notified a decrease on all of this since I’ve started the cycle after 3.5 weeks in due to high estro.

 

[Hyde]

got it! Thank you for your input. I would like to be able to reproduce some day and I plan to be on testosterone for life if I am able to manage the sides and libido appropriately.

I will continue taking 500iu HCG EOD and will report my findings. I hope my AI dose of Aromasin 12.5mg to be sufficient. I don’t want to deal with high estro sides again.

I was also under the impression sexual function on steroids will be better if I take HCG and have more semen volume. Is it safe to assume libido increases and the recharge time between orgasms will be much better? I’ve notified a decrease on all of this since I’ve started the cycle after 3.5 weeks in due to high estro.

You may notice libido increases and possibly increased semen volume, but you shouldn’t expect a decrease in refractory period. In fact, you may also see a decrease in libido, because again, this will raise estrogen. And estrogen is a fickle thing as far as getting the sweetspot for a powerful libido.

 

[Hyde]

got it! Thank you for your input. I would like to be able to reproduce some day and I plan to be on testosterone for life if I am able to manage the sides and libido appropriately.

I will continue taking 500iu HCG EOD and will report my findings. I hope my AI dose of Aromasin 12.5mg to be sufficient. I don’t want to deal with high estro sides again.

I was also under the impression sexual function on steroids will be better if I take HCG and have more semen volume. Is it safe to assume libido increases and the recharge time between orgasms will be much better? I’ve notified a decrease on all of this since I’ve started the cycle after 3.5 weeks in due to high estro.

You may notice libido increases and possibly increased semen volume, but you shouldn’t expect a decrease in refractory period. In fact, you may also see a decrease in libido, because again, this will raise estrogen. And estrogen is a fickle thing as far as getting the sweetspot for a powerful libido.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

You may notice libido increases and possibly increased semen volume, but you shouldn’t expect a decrease in refractory period. In fact, you may also see a decrease in libido, because again, this will raise estrogen. And estrogen is a fickle thing as far as getting the sweetspot for a powerful libido.

Thanks for all the input. I hope libido can remain high with it. I’ll continue to use and will report updates.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

Libido dropped more and my joints began to crack and seem dry. I assumed it was low E2 so I stopped aromasin. I continue to take 500iu EOD of HCG and the boys are looking fuller and orgasms are better. I am much more sensitive down there too.

however, I’m still taking cialis / viagra for to function and sometimes it doesn’t. Prior to this cycle, if I would take a pill I’ll smash 5-9 times easy in a day. Will this ever be possible again while being on?

 

[Smont]

The smartest thing to do is end the cycle or drop to trt dose of testosterone and eliminate everything else. Wait till everything is back to normal and spend some time like that and when your ready slowly build back up.

 

[Hyde]

The smartest thing to do is end the cycle or drop to trt dose of testosterone and eliminate everything else. Wait till everything is back to normal and spend some time like that and when your ready slowly build back up.

That would be far too rational

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

If I drop to TRT dose, am I increasing my risks of losing my original high sex drive if I decide to get off and PCT? Do you anticipate this will fix my problem?

at this point, libido and sexual function is the most important thing for me. Having a dick that doesn’t work right out weights the benefits of all muscle and being on cycle lol.

 

[Hyde]

If I drop to TRT dose, am I increasing my risks of losing my original high sex drive if I decide to get off and PCT? Do you anticipate this will fix my problem?

at this point, libido and sexual function is the most important thing for me. Having a dick that doesn’t work right out weights the benefits of all muscle and being on cycle lol.

Libido tends to be consistently best around TRT doses for many guys, somewhat ironically. It often supercharges when you up the dose for a bit, but inevitably that eventually cools off and can even become dysfunctional with the high test and estro levels for some.

PCT is usually not a hot time. You are trying to fire back up natural production. So even if successful there will a time of low test and also estro can be relatively high when test is low.

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

What does of test is typically best for libido and erection strength from your experience without needing an AI?

I was thinking about maybe trying to add proviron 50mg per day and see if it helps while I finish the blast

I really don’t want to stop my steroids journey but I want to be able to **** at minimum 3 times a day and have strong erections.

 

[Hyde]

What does of test is typically best for libido and erection strength from your experience without needing an AI?

I was thinking about maybe trying to add proviron 50mg per day and see if it helps while I finish the blast

I really don’t want to stop my steroids journey but I want to be able to **** at minimum 3 times a day and have strong erections.

Guy it just doesn’t work that way. Everyone is different. People respond differently to different drugs, have different libidos naturally, different neurotransmitter levels & responses. And libido is a very fickle & complex thing that goes well beyond hormones.

You want it all. You want a raging libido and erections. You want to be unnaturally jacked. You want no sexual dysfunction. You want to keep testicular size while on steroids. You don’t want to use an AI. You want to PCT and have libido while doing it, probably expect to keep all your gains & have so side effects with any of this too.

All of these things together in a bundle are right next to the free yacht depot, which is also next to the free harem store & trust fund emporium. Do me a solid & call me when you find it, eh?




Proviron is a great bandaid, for a short spell. Just remember, what goes up must come down, and that goes for your pecker. The body always adapts, so anything that sends libido into overdrive you’ll eventually get used to as a new normal, and then it won’t be so crazy.

 

[Smont]

Guy it just doesn’t work that way. Everyone is different. People respond differently to different drugs, have different libidos naturally, different neurotransmitter levels & responses. And libido is a very fickle & complex thing that goes well beyond hormones.

You want it all. You want a raging libido and erections. You want to be unnaturally jacked. You want no sexual dysfunction. You want to keep testicular size while on steroids. You don’t want to use an AI. You want to PCT and have libido while doing it, probably expect to keep all your gains & have so side effects with any of this too.

All of these things together in a bundle are right next to the free yacht depot, which is also next to the free harem store & trust fund emporium. Do me a solid & call me when you find it, eh?




Proviron is a great bandaid, for a short spell. Just remember, what goes up must come down, and that goes for your pecker. The body always adapts, so anything that sends libido into overdrive you’ll eventually get used to as a new normal, and then it won’t be so crazy.

I'm a little upset that I can only press the like button once on this one lol

 

[Mikereyn513]

Why do you NEED to bone 3× day. I think you have your priorities mixed up if that's an absolute must I'm telling you right now gear is not for you

 

[Rad83]

Why do you NEED to bone 3× day. I think you have your priorities mixed up if that's an absolute must I'm telling you right now gear is not for you

OP lost me at the original “5-9 times a day” he mentioned…Just sayin’ that’s nuts! (Pun intended)

 

[Xapt3r2ooX]

I have horny girlfriends and I am a horny guy myself lol. I have to make sure I can deliver.

I meant if I couldn’t get libido and erection right on juice, I would PCT and recover and let natty libido do it’s thing once it recovered. I know I’m going to be impacted until I recover. I didn’t mean to say have a raging libido in PCT.

I understand I can’t have it all. However, suffering ED during this cycle has been a real mind ****. I just want to make sure I can pop random boners and not live off crazy cialis or viagra doses that may or may not work. I used to see a girl I like and my dick would go up naturally. I miss that. The balls part was me testing to see if HCG would fix my problem.

I am okay using an AI. I’m just wondering if the AI is causing me the libido/erection issue which is why I figured to try a low dose without it to see if it fixes the problem.

To make note: 5-9 times was with Viagra or Cialis. Naturally was like 2-3 times per day with daily supps like horny goat weed, maca and trib LOL

I know it sounds silly guys but I’m just going crazy not having the erection and libido I have.

Thanks all

 

[Smont]

Mild cycles, testosterone 300-500mg, masteron 200-400mg, no orals, no 19nors and daily 5mg cailis. Kinda random numbers but my point is keep it simple and don't use much and it's your safer bet in the bedroom. If you really trying to keep up with multiple females I'd read up on this stuff with low daily dose approach or bolus dose pre research experiments

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[Hyde]

You will probably recover normal functions when you PCT. I would plan for things to be a bit rocky for 2-3 months post, but with patience it works itself back out fine for most.

Generally speaking, you make changes with hormones and you can often expect changes in libido. That’s about the only thing you can count on.