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Test E--manbeast please help

machorox123

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Been part of this board for a lil while.. Thinkin about starting my first cycle in a year after my wrestling career is done
26
5'9"
230
About 17% bf. havnt had it tested in a while but am sure that's fairly accurate..by the time I cycle I will be down to 14
Just lookin for some feedback.

Week 1-4 SD 10/20/30/30
Week 1-12 test 300 twice a week
Week 10-14 hcg 500mcg

As for aan AI I will have adex.. Ive noticed a lot of people will say to run it throughout and a lot will say use it at signs of gyno so need advice bout that.
Pct:
Week 15-19Nolva 40/40/20/20
Week 15-19Clomid 100/50/50/25
Not eaxctly sure if an AI belongs in pct
Lemme know what to tweak.. I've got a year so hopefully the cycle will be perfected by then
 
I'd tweak the HCG use for sure, make it 250iu 2x a week starting week 2 or 3 and stopping 5 days before you start PCT. Start the AI (research grade) at a very very mild dose in week 2-3 as well. I would reccomend a longer pct as well for a cycle of that length, especially with heavy shutdown early from the superdrol. My AI of choice for PCT right now is the active compound in Erase.

ManBeast
 
I'd tweak the HCG use for sure, make it 250iu 2x a week starting week 2 or 3 and stopping 5 days before you start PCT. Start the AI (research grade) at a very very mild dose in week 2-3 as well. I would reccomend a longer pct as well for a cycle of that length, especially with heavy shutdown early from the superdrol. My AI of choice for PCT right now is the active compound in Erase.

ManBeast

thanx for the speedy response..im guessing the logic for hcg earlier in the cycle is to stay shutdown for the shortest amount of time..makes sense...ill extend the pct to 6 weeks and get bloods done to see if i should extend it any longer
what would dosing look like at 6 weeks..if i go with erase for pct should i just buy some more and drop the adex for on cycle
 
I prefer adex on cycle because it is more "precise" at eliminating estrogen, wheras I like Erase during pct because it controls it (and cortisol). HCG won't prevent shutdown, it just keeps your nuts happy, full and primed and ready. While I used a heavier dosing of HCG at the end of one of my cyles and it worked fine, that was before I knew about this protocol.

6 weeks i'd use
nolva: 60/40/40/20/20/10
clomid:100/50/50/50/25/25

ManBeast
 
erase would be 0/0/0/3/2/1
if hcg stimulates natural test production wouldnt that prevent from being fully shutdown
 
it prevents the nuts from being fully shutdown, but the rest of the HPGA will not be "up" from the HCG due to the negative feedback loop associated with superphysiological levels of test.

ManBeast
 
superphysiological

I think you keep words like this around just to throw out every once in a while to make sure we remember we aren't as intelligent as you lol
 
LMAO truth is i'm still learning daily.

ManBeast
 
i tthink it comes back pretty soon just takes a while to normalize

It really depends. It may take a little longer than a month, but that's a reasonable amount of time you'd expect normality to return. However, there are reports of guys who just don't recover and need therapy. Dr Crisler is a well known TRT doctor in the area. He and I have discussed some of his patients. There was a 19 year old who had been shut down for three years and Dr Crisler couldn't get him to "re-start" again no matter what he did. That's an extreme, but it does happen. The 19 year old used to post on another forum. I would talk to him frequently. That kid was in bad shape.
 
I've been off deca for 7 wks and test since mid january. Still having problems keeping a hard on.
Never using Deca again!!
 
Deca dick is certainly a bear.
 
I'll stick to tren as my favorite 19-nor LOL.

ManBeast
 
I use mild doses for longer durations, no major cough except once when i was in a hurry to inject before heading to class :D
 
I blame it on the deca. I've never had a problem on or after cycles. It's been a while how long is this deca dick gonna last?
 
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