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Test E/M-Sten Cycle. Critique!

spirall08

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Cycle starts this week! I've pre-loaded Cycle Assist and Hawthorn Berry the past 2 wks. All ready to go and wanted to make sure everything was on point...


Week 1-10: Test E 500mg/wk
Week 1-6: MSten 24mg/day (2 Msten,1 Ultradrol)

Adex: As needed (possibly .5mg E3D)
Week 8-11: HCG 250iu 2x week

PCT:
Week 12-15: Nolva 20/20/20/20
Week 12-13: Clomid 50/50
6-OXO
DAA


***Biggest questions:
1- Should I bump MSten to 30mgs?
2- Ok to mix M-Sten and UD?
3- How to dose the MSten? I will be taking 3 pills/day. 2 of them are 10mg, and one of them is 4mg. My schedule is normally wake up around 10am and workout around 6pm.


Goal is to gain/bulk. Will shoot for 4k+ cals/day. Let me know if I missed anything or any suggestions.

Thanks!
 
Why only two weeks clomid?? I'd also throw in something like erase pro into pct. It is a suicidal AI and strong anti cortisol. Most people who lose muscle in pct is largely due to high levels of cortisol as the body is in a form of "stress".
 
Lukef2000 said:
Why only two weeks clomid?? I'd also throw in something like erase pro into pct. It is a suicidal AI and strong anti cortisol. Most people who lose muscle in pct is largely due to high levels of cortisol as the body is in a form of "stress".
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I didn't see he only had two weeks clomid ha
 
Personally I recommend your largest dose being pre workout as some literature I've seen points to some nice benefits of bolus hormone doses before exercise.
 
Lukef2000 said:
Why only two weeks clomid?? I'd also throw in something like erase pro into pct. It is a suicidal AI and strong anti cortisol. Most people who lose muscle in pct is largely due to high levels of cortisol as the body is in a form of "stress".
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4 weeks both nolva and clomid for a cycle like this is overkill. Technically only need one or the other. However, through speaking with some people, I was told I can throw in Clomid for a couple weeks as a precaution.

Thanks for the advice on Erase. You're the 2nd person to tell me this. I will definitely throw it in. Question: If I add it, should I remove the 6oxo, or use both?!?
 
spirall08 said:
4 weeks both nolva and clomid for a cycle like this is overkill. Technically only need one or the other. However, through speaking with some people, I was told I can throw in Clomid for a couple weeks as a precaution.

Thanks for the advice on Erase. You're the 2nd person to tell me this. I will definitely throw it in. Question: If I add it, should I remove the 6oxo, or use both?!?
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Well that's a matter of opinion really, if you want to use one then use one if you want to use both use both, they both work differently regarding restarting your hpta so they can be used together. Overkill? Yes but recovery isn't something to take lightly. I'd rather use more regarding recovery than not enough.
 
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