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Test E and/or Test Prop

Swindler

Swindler

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So I like test E and have ran it several times . Just curious of test prop. Also it has been reccomened with the next cycle I plan on running of tren A and mast prop. Some one tell me personal experience with it or why you would reccomend one or the other wit such a cycle? thanx
 
Be very careful with tren cause it can be horrible and I comes out of nowhere then its gone (you think) then it comes back. Tren is not a good bulker and you really need to eat like a horse to benefit fully with. Now if its a recomp or cut you can be alright but honestly tren might be the best but also the most overrated and I think any beginner will have just as good results with other things. Tren just eats up the food cause of the nutrient partioning so because you have to eat more I think in that regard it's overrated. The beautiful thing is that nothing get stored as fat and that's why it's at the top.

Now to the other question. Test e I believe is weaker per mg, same compound but when you inject e at 100 mg you might get 80 and with prop 90. Not sure about the actual numbers but it's not a massive amount. E is slower acting which basically means you'll need at least two more weeks on it to get the same actual length with the compound, some might argue 4 extra weeks.
 
Swindler said:
So I like test E and have ran it several times . Just curious of test prop. Also it has been reccomened with the next cycle I plan on running of tren A and mast prop. Some one tell me personal experience with it or why you would reccomend one or the other wit such a cycle? thanx
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If your running short esters (tren a mast p) you might as well go test prop as well. You could do an effective shorter cycle this way and get the full benefits of everything working quickly rather than waiting on test to get in and clear while the other compounds will be quick in and out. This is an awesome combo for recomp or cutting. Sometimes offered in a blend known as the "rip blend". If Its your first time using the tren I def think it's wise to use ace.

Prop in my experience is better for shorter cycles. Longer ester like c or e for cycles 10 weeks or more. So for me I would recommend the test based on the length you plan on running your cycle.
 
another question am I more likely to have blood pressure issues with the tren ace since it's a shorter ester...
 
Tren it’s the fking best bulker hands down! I’m on cycle now test e 250mg Tren Ace 100mg eod Mast p 100 eod. With Tren Ace my opinion is t use long ester test to give your body some time to recover while y have test in your system , y also pin 1-2x week so it’s ok and prop bites! IM up 6lb on week 2 and tighter veins start to pop out like crazy of course I eat like horse! A lot of carbs. You don’t need any other steroid than tren if you can’t bulk with it you do something wrong , I’m talking about lean mass
 
AlwaysHungry1 said:
Tren it’s the fking best bulker hands down! I’m on cycle now test e 250mg Tren Ace 100mg eod Mast p 100 eod. With Tren Ace my opinion is t use long ester test to give your body some time to recover while y have test in your system , y also pin 1-2x week so it’s ok and prop bites! IM up 6lb on week 2 and tighter veins start to pop out like crazy of course I eat like horse! A lot of carbs. You don’t need any other steroid than tren if you can’t bulk with it you do something wrong , I’m talking about lean mass
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Yeah but it's not as superior as people believe.
 
AlwaysHungry1 said:
Maybe your tren was bunk ?
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Haha not a chance, I've used It a few times and I got the sides and the gains. All I'm saying is that it's not as good as people make It out to be. Is it the best? Yes, but you can get similar results with other compounds stacked together and not get these sides or toxicity especially as a beginner. I personally find winstrol and mast being superior for getting veiny but its harder to keep the gains and you won't build or retain as much muscle during cut or bulk. I find deca almost as good especially when adding primo cause you get the size from deca and trenlike effects from primo.

Tren is just an easier compound to not mess up your diet on cause of the nutrient partioning. It's just wether sides are worth It and if you can control cortisol and keep these gains.
 
Swindler said:
So I like test E and have ran it several times . Just curious of test prop. Also it has been reccomened with the next cycle I plan on running of tren A and mast prop. Some one tell me personal experience with it or why you would reccomend one or the other wit such a cycle? thanx
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Test prop is bomb.
Works nice and fast
500 mg of prop is different than 500mg of E or C .
IMO prop is better.
Two real benefits
1. Work fast, buy the first weeks end your feeling it. No waiting
2. (If you pct) last shot wait 3 days start PCT. Again NO WAIT

Test prop/tren ace was magical for me.
Really took me there.
Strength
Recovery
Lean gains
Drive.
 
Cgkone said:
Test prop is bomb.
Works nice and fast
500 mg of prop is different than 500mg of E or C .
IMO prop is better.
Two real benefits
1. Work fast, buy the first weeks end your feeling it. No waiting
2. (If you pct) last shot wait 3 days start PCT. Again NO WAIT

Test prop/tren ace was magical for me.
Really took me there.
Strength
Recovery
Lean gains
Drive.
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Prop also release more test than enthanate , like 10 mg /100 or something. Not a major difference but hey.
 
Cgkone said:
You figure 500mg of test e is a beginner cycle.
500mg of prop is a pretty rocking cycle
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Yeah basically the more test you take the bigger difference you get between the esters and for a first cycle I think it becomes quite noticible.
 
Swindler said:
does prop cause less bloat or water retention than E
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You will probably use less prop then enthanate on a shot giving enthanate a higher estrogen. It depends on how you keep your levels. Testosteron is testosteron so theoretically you can bloat on both of the levels are the same.
 
Chados said:
You will probably use less prop then enthanate on a shot giving enthanate a higher estrogen. It depends on how you keep your levels. Testosteron is testosteron so theoretically you can bloat on both of the levels are the same.
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yeah that's kind of what I have heard but have heard that prop is a good cutter so I don't really understand its kind of like some of the info is contradicting...lol I am still in the air on the E and prop I used E several times so I am confortable with it and know how to use it...
 
Longer esters can tend to be wetter compared to their short ester versions. Ive discussed this here with others in the past, posted a great article going into the science behind it.

Theres a reason why competitors use long esters for bulk season, and short esters for cutting prior to competition...and it has very little to do with pinning frequency.
 
Swindler said:
yeah that's kind of what I have heard but have heard that prop is a good cutter so I don't really understand its kind of like some of the info is contradicting...lol I am still in the air on the E and prop I used E several times so I am confortable with it and know how to use it...
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I believe it's just ester dependant, enthanate might be more of a shock delivering a whopping 750mg instantly. Everything is controllable with an ai. Prop is nice mostly because it's fast and you can have a shorter cycle. I don't personally see much of a difference if anything but I just dont bloat easily.
 
prop is less bloat more energy easier to start and start.
its better for everything imo
just got to inject frequently
 
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