Test c/tren A/dbol cycle

[Ddevine7]

I'm about 4 weeks out from wanting to start my 10 week cycle, with a few questions.
1, is test c something I can inject ed with tren a or should I stick to 1 on 3 days off and add it in on those days? Also, what is the reccommended doses for these two combined? I've heard everything from tren/test 2:1, 1:1, and down to 250-350ml tren and 500-600ml test. What gives the best results and why?
STATS: 4th cycle, first time using tren
25yrs old, 6 years lifting
Body fat 14%+-
Squat/bench/deadlift-455/265/515lbs
-planned on doing this for cycle
Test c-500ml 1-10weeks
Tren a-50ml ed, 1-10 weeks
Dbol-50mg ed, 1-4 weeks
Diet-Anabolic diet, it's the only diet I've ever done and got fast results on. But could be convinced to carb cycle although I don't handle carbs well nor do I eat them steadily lol.
Workout-5/3/1 with GVT last 6 weeks.
Goals-get strong, build muscle, lose at least
2-4%bf, more athletic.

Open to any and all critiquing and advice

 

[JoeStethics]

Well first of all u definitely mean 500mg and 50 mg instead of ml, secondly in my opinion running tren higher than test is much better = less sides, and remember with tren u really dont need a high test dose nor a really high tren dosage for the first time, less is more so i would say get around TRT or slightly more for test and rock the tren higher something like 250-300mg test and 300-400mg tren max especially for first cycle, if u wanna up ur dosage and play some risks and more sides u could but i honestly think what i mentioned above is the best scenario, dbol i would say 30-40mg maybe 50 last week, but u gotta remember more is not always better, its rarely even better.

Hope this helps

 

[Nac]

Id pin to whatever schedule you find easiest and most practical, within reason.

Id skip the dbol, maybe add it as a closer. The tren a will be potent enough as it is.

 

[JoeStethics]

Well test c is a long ester which depending on dosage means once or twice a week to be injected, tren ace is ED or EOD, i would recommend Test prop and tren ace that way its the same schedule, say 75mg Test prop EOD and 100mg TREN A EOD very good first time tren dosage.
About the dbol, it depends on ur goal but a test/tren cycle is really good for building muscle and getting stronger and depending on diet possibly lose a bit of fat, the dbol may bloat u up and u might lose a bit of that tren look. If anything go for it as a kickstart not more than 3-4 weeks.

 

[yates84]

You can still pin test c ed, ester doesn't necessarily dictate dosing schedule.

 

[JoeStethics]

True but blood levels would be much more stable when going with the proper dosage timing protocol, hell u can pin Test prop once a week but its about the bloodwork too.

 

[yates84]

True but blood levels would be much more stable when going with the proper dosage timing protocol, hell u can pin Test prop once a week but its about the bloodwork too.

Yeah, and pinning a long ester daily will not effect blood levels, if anything they would be more stable. I've pinned like this a few different cycles and actually find it easier to pin like that. Way less oil to pin every week too.

 

[JoeStethics]

Well if he were to pin a long ester daily which kinda defeats the purpose he is better off with test and prop and tren ace daily or EOD injections.

 

[yates84]

Well if he were to pin a long ester daily which kinda defeats the purpose he is better off with test and prop and tren ace daily or EOD injections.

Better off, sure but not mandatory.

 

[Nac]

True but blood levels would be much more stable when going with the proper dosage timing protocol, hell u can pin Test prop once a week but its about the bloodwork too.

Nah not really.

Prop/cyp/e all have similiar single dose plasma peaks, around 24-48hrs. The ester differences are largely seen in plasma decay times.

There is a significant difference between pinning a short ester (or any ester) not frequently enough, as opposed to pinning any ester with high frequency and smaller doses.

You may not get as much of an acute spike pinning 50mg enanthate ed as you would pinning 250mg twice per week, but you will still accrue plasma levels over time with each successive dose. Which is ultimately what he wants. An additional bonus is, lower acute spikes can mean less E2 conversion...and more stable levels in general. Like, your peaks and troughs will be less pronounced if pinning less, more often.

Ultimately I think its about finding the balance between what dosing frequency the ester allows, and what best suits you. Some guys like high frequency, some have only a few favoured pin sites so are wary of scarring, etc etc.