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Test boosting...Best single ingredient

MassMonster76

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Hey was wondering what you guys think on two items


singles best test boosting ingredient

single best libido boosting ingredient

many have told me high quality tongcat ali is the real deal at the 200:1 extract ratio


any thoughts from you guys would be appreciated
 
Yep tongkat ali is you best bet or bulbline natalensis, but TA is probably a more solid choice
 
For libido:
Bulbine and/or fenugreek

For test boosting:
If natty- not much really will help much
Pct- an ai and a serm first, then maybe some tongkat Ali or some DAA (personally I hate it but many see good results)
 
Tongkat ali would be my pick to try
 
For me definitely stack of tongkat ali and solid AI like transdermal formestane (hopefully with ban on this one we'll get decent replacement soon).
 
Tongkat or DAA in my opinion. Dosed correctly of course. Hard to beat
 
Why has tongkat ali become so popular all the sudden. Ive started several threads years ago on it, and people then were saying it was bunk


Id copy and paste the links but you have to have 5000 post or more...WTF ive been a member for 10 years
 
Who knows? I've been taking for about as long on and off, but it wasn't until I hit my late 30s that I really saw a big libido increase and even more now on TRT.
 
EMPIREMIND said:
I know that maca pro from bps is supposed to be official. I have also heard the same about tongkat
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Maca Pro is a good product for sure. It has been shown to have a pronounced effect on sexual desire, reproductive health, and is potentially supportive of healthy testosterone levels.

But it's not really a test booster, I think it just gives many of the effects of testosterone (libido, energy, etc.)

Resveratrol (like in Sustain Alpha) or another potent AI (formeron) would be the best test booster... if you're lowering estrogen, you're definitely boosting testosterone.
 
chainsaw said:
Why has tongkat ali become so popular all the sudden. Ive started several threads years ago on it, and people then were saying it was bunk


Id copy and paste the links but you have to have 5000 post or more...WTF ive been a member for 10 years
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Majority of time its quality driven and advancement in research. There are some companies dedicated to continued pursuit of published research and with that comes identification of shortcomings of the previous research.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Maca Pro is a good product for sure. It has been shown to have a pronounced effect on sexual desire, reproductive health, and is potentially supportive of healthy testosterone levels.

But it's not really a test booster, I think it just gives many of the effects of testosterone (libido, energy, etc.)

Resveratrol (like in Sustain Alpha) or another potent AI (formeron) would be the best test booster... if you're lowering estrogen, you're definitely boosting testosterone.
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the most potent Aromatase inhibitors don't effect healthy testosterone levels
 
Also if you're looking at test boosters, BPS has a buy one, get one offer on Endosurge right now.
 
USPlabsRep said:
the most potent Aromatase inhibitors don't effect healthy testosterone levels
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To characterize its suppression of estrogen and its pharmacokinetic (PK) properties in males, healthy eugonadal subjects (14-26 yr of age) were recruited..... Exemestane suppressed plasma estradiol comparably with either dose [25 mg, 38% (P <or= 0.002); 50 mg, 32% (P <or= 0.008)], with a reciprocal increase in testosterone concentrations (60% and 56%; P <or= 0.003 for both).

Study: Pharmacokinetics and dose finding of a potent aromatase inhibitor, aromasin (exemestane), in young males.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
To characterize its suppression of estrogen and its pharmacokinetic (PK) properties in males, healthy eugonadal subjects (14-26 yr of age) were recruited..... Exemestane suppressed plasma estradiol comparably with either dose [25 mg, 38% (P <or= 0.002); 50 mg, 32% (P <or= 0.008)], with a reciprocal increase in testosterone concentrations (60% and 56%; P <or= 0.003 for both).

Study: Pharmacokinetics and dose finding of a potent aromatase inhibitor, aromasin (exemestane), in young males.
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The literature beyond that abstracts is clear. You are correct.
 
There have been two new studies in 2015 after that one study that DAA was built on in 2010 came out, and they contradict the first study, suggesting DAA doesn't help and possibly hurts those in the normal range of test.
 
Lol at Daa. Recent studies actually shows it lowers test levels in men.
And maca does nothing for testosterone. It does seem to increase sperm produktion though
 
So, forgetting all the technical junk, what's best for test boosting for a 44yr old male (UK based)
I've read about prime make but am sceptical about the company itself!!
 
canveylad2 said:
So, forgetting all the technical junk, what's best for test boosting for a 44yr old male (UK based)
I've read about prime make but am sceptical about the company itself!!
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Go with Viron by BLR (contains tongkat ali & boron)- should be available at few UK dealers.
 
roy_jones said:
There have been two new studies in 2015 after that one study that DAA was built on in 2010 came out, and they contradict the first study, suggesting DAA doesn't help and possibly hurts those in the normal range of test.
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Have you got a link to the 2015 study you could post? Thanks
 
Some Tongkat ali 100 made me a grizzly bear for 8 hours. Nonstop energy and strength. Defecated like an animal. Ate two large bowls of oatmeal and four glass of milk to calm down. I took a small dose for my weight. So be advised it can affect you strongly. It was a harrowing experience.

Maybe it is just me. One capsule of Testojack 100 made me very aggressive.
 
What are your thoughts ordering Tongkat ali in bulk from China

I have seen vendors selling the 200:1 version ranging from 300 to 500 dollars per kilo

that would last a hell of a long time and costs about 30-50 cents per gram or 1000mg

any thoughts
 
What are your thoughts ordering Tongkat ali in bulk from China

I have seen vendors selling the 200:1 version ranging from 300 to 500 dollars per kilo

that would last a hell of a long time and costs about 30-50 cents per gram or 1000mg

any thoughts
 
I am sensitive to stimulants so not the best person to ask. Even Beta-Alanine gives me jitters.

However, I would never trust the Chinese stuff.

But man did that Tongkat turn me into a true Beserker! When I described the experience to someone they said the effects sounds the same as being on top quality cocaine.
 
UCSMiami said:
I am sensitive to stimulants so not the best person to ask. Even Beta-Alanine gives me jitters.

However, I would never trust the Chinese stuff.

But man did that Tongkat turn me into a true Beserker! When I described the experience to someone they said the effects sounds the same as being on top quality cocaine.
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Placebo effect is real.
 
MassMonster76 said:
What are your thoughts ordering Tongkat ali in bulk from China

I have seen vendors selling the 200:1 version ranging from 300 to 500 dollars per kilo

that would last a hell of a long time and costs about 30-50 cents per gram or 1000mg

any thoughts
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Ratio extracts wont yield any results comparable to the version that we will be releasing. Stay tuned for more info
 
roy_jones said:
There have been two new studies in 2015 after that one study that DAA was built on in 2010 came out, and they contradict the first study, suggesting DAA doesn't help and possibly hurts those in the normal range of test.
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Found one of the studies. Can you post a link to the second? It sucks that DAA may be bunk after all!
 
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