Test Booster vs Clomid

Slims said:
Proper TRT would have been my preferred route but as I've said, the doctors over here don't see it as a genuine health concern.
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Have you looked into any hrt clinics? They are much easier to work with if you want trt. They generally know more too when it comes to proper dosages and ancillaries
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Have you looked into any hrt clinics? They are much easier to work with if you want trt. They generally know more too when it comes to proper dosages and ancillaries
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I've looked into them extensively, They're too far out of my financial reach unfortunately
 
bruno.camilo said:
I use clomid twice a week 25mg 25mg with my trt, keep my balls big and working. Now, clomid everyday i do not have lots of experiences but i did some PCT with it, maybe depression and low libido was the sides i had(these sides taking clomid every day)
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I'm curious how clomid works while on trt. Are your lh and fsh within range? I might be taking it while cruising too
 
AnabolicGuru said:
I'm curious how clomid works while on trt. Are your lh and fsh within range? I might be taking it while cruising too
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Clomid is usually the first port of call for doctors and Endocrinologists when considering somebody for HRT/TRT.
FSH was 1.24mIU/ml
LH was 0.9mIU/ml
 
Slims said:
Clomid is usually the first port of call for doctors and Endocrinologists when considering somebody for HRT/TRT.
FSH was 1.24mIU/ml
LH was 0.9mIU/ml
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Im asking how it works while on trt/cruising on test. I heard that it isn't effective because the hpta is shutdown from the exogenous test, making the pituitary unresponsive to clomid.
 
Slims said:
This is why I'm just going to have to do this myself. I've had three years of being messed around and fobbed off, enough is enough... Just gotta find some legit Clomid now haha
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Save up some money and go private
If only to get full testing diagnosis and possibly genetic or chromosome testing. Have you had scans?
 
ucheoma said:
Save up some money and go private
If only to get full testing diagnosis and possibly genetic or chromosome testing. Have you had scans?
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I've had multiple scans and tests. The doctors acknowledge this but just refuse to treat it as it is not considered a genuine health concern.
 
Why don't you try new doctors? Or maybe have your doctor refer you to a urologist or endocrinologist? If you really want to get a script, you'll be able to get it imo; its just a matter of finding the right physician.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Why don't you try new doctors? Or maybe have your doctor refer you to a urologist or endocrinologist? If you really want to get a script, you'll be able to get it imo; its just a matter of finding the right physician.
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Slims said:
I've seen SO many different doctors and specialists over the years it's ridiculous. I've been through several endocrinologists and still, nothing. They just keep repeating the same lines of,
"Let's just wait"
and
"It's not low enough for concern or to be considered for replacement therapy"
Or
"You're too young to be considered for medical intervention treatment"

Private doctors over here are way out of my financial reach, so I'm just going to have to self medicate and just adjust things in relation to blood work results.
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Slims said:
I've transferred through three GP's and I've already been passed through the shrinks and CBT referrals. But unfortunately no matter which NHS GP you go to, the referral routes and specialist end points are always the same.
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Slims said:
The NHS is absolutely amazing and considering how underfunded they are provide an outstanding service. But yes, their guidelines and restrictions on things like this are embarrassing. 206ng/dl is the second highest level I've had in these three years but I am also taking Forskolin, extra Vitamin D, Zinc, Magnesium etc. But again, these extra vitamins and natty supps will only get me so far.
Thanks for the links, I've already been through the BSSM. They were very helpful but my endocrinologist put the blockers on their recommended TestoGel treatment.

I'm going to MediChecks next week to get my Bi-Monthly Blood panels and then start on the 25mg ED of Clomid + OL's Sup3r-PCT run. I might actually run a log, including bloods, if anybody might be interested?
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Slims said:
Via her usual "reasoning" of that my level at the time (167ng/dl) wasn't low enough to cause overall health concerns. Baring in mind that at the time I was being treated for bone density and cholesterol metabolism issues, depression and fatigue. And when I asked for a second opinion it was denied.
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Slims said:
I haven't used any suppressive drugs or supplements, I just have naturally low testosterone. I complained about my my last two GP's under the medical neglect form, that's how I got the transfer to my current GP.
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Slims said:
Proper TRT would have been my preferred route but as I've said, the doctors over here don't see it as a genuine health concern.
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Pages 1 & 2 dude
 
Slims said:
I've had multiple scans and tests. The doctors acknowledge this but just refuse to treat it as it is not considered a genuine health concern.
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What were the results of your scan? Any atrophy or testicular damage. In a lot of these cases even Clomid won't help. Also do you plan on having kids or more kids? If so have you had fertility tests and what did these show?
 
ucheoma said:
What were the results of your scan? Any atrophy or testicular damage. In a lot of these cases even Clomid won't help. Also do you plan on having kids or more kids? If so have you had fertility tests and what did these show?
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I don't have any kids, I never planned on having any, I'm also infertile so it wasn't/isn't an option anyway.
Regards atrophy, they've always been the same(ish) size. I'm a number 3 on the doctors bead measure, which is the size of a 12-14 year olds testicles.
 
Sorry to hear. There areí processes to retrieve sperm even in infertile men but you would probably have to go outside the UK to find a Decent surgeon. Just in case you might want kids in future before hopping on TRT you might want to seek advice about preserving any swimmers. I have non obstructive azoospermia and have fathered a child. Don't know how old you are but things change as you get older
 
ucheoma said:
Sorry to hear. There areí processes to retrieve sperm even in infertile men but you would probably have to go outside the UK to find a Decent surgeon. Just in case you might want kids in future before hopping on TRT you might want to seek advice about preserving any swimmers. I have non obstructive azoospermia and have fathered a child. Don't know how old you are but things change as you get older
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I'm 24. I actually don't have enough sperm to preserve, my sperm count was the second lowest value the urologist had ever encountered
 
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