sloppychauncy
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I used to use M-test and saw really good results with it, but it looks like you can’t get it anymore? So what do you guys suggest instead that’s good for around the same price?
Test booster to replace M test?
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Afi140
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We have m test in stock and it’s on sale for $32.99 right now
if you want to switch just because I really like sustain alpha but it’s topical. Both products are great https://www.strongsupplementshop.com/m-test-by-competitive-edge-labs
ValiantThor08
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If you have not tried Viron, use RYAN15 to get a discount, and give it a go. Raise test/free test, increase libido, power output in gym. Good stuff.
mastah
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AMOUNT PER SERVING
Vitamin D (as D3 Cholecalciferol) 5000IU
Zinc (as Zinc Aspartate) 50mg
Fadogia Agrestis PE 1,200mg
KSM-66® Full Spectrum Ashwagandha
root extract (5% Withanolides) 800mg
Urtica Dioica (Stinging Nettle) 800mg
Eurycoma Longifolia (Tongkat Ali) 800mg
Mucuna Pruriens (Std. to 98% L-Dopa) 600mg
Boron Citrate
(300mg Boron Citrate yielding 15mg active Boron) 300mg
Pine Bark Extract
(extracted for Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid) 100mg
Bioperine® 10mg
AMOUNT PER SERVING
Vitamin D (as D3 Cholecalciferol) 5000IU
Zinc (as Zinc Aspartate) 50mg
Fadogia Agrestis PE 1,200mg
KSM-66® Full Spectrum Ashwagandha
root extract (5% Withanolides) 800mg
Urtica Dioica (Stinging Nettle) 800mg
Eurycoma Longifolia (Tongkat Ali) 800mg
Mucuna Pruriens (Std. to 98% L-Dopa) 600mg
Boron Citrate
(300mg Boron Citrate yielding 15mg active Boron) 300mg
Pine Bark Extract
(extracted for Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid) 100mg
Bioperine® 10mg
RIPDanDuchaine
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That looks like a good formula. I don't know if I would include the L-Dopa if it was me, but everything else (Fadogia Agrestis PE I don't know what is either).
I recommend good old Tribestan.
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Afi140
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Kings blood is stacked. Sitting in a bottle right now you’re making me want to crack open.
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KvanH
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Do it!
LeanEngineer
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Agreed with this. I can personally vouch for Viron as a sufficient replacement. Great natty TB!
sns8778
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This is a duplicate thread from yesterday. The other thread asked why he thought M-Test couldn't be gotten anymore and I never saw that answered.
Now, the second thread on it gets bumped with no one pointing out that M-Test is available and some people jump on recommending other products without even pointing out that M-Test isn't discontinued.
Now, the second thread on it gets bumped with no one pointing out that M-Test is available and some people jump on recommending other products without even pointing out that M-Test isn't discontinued.
KvanH
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I assumed it was OOS from what ever supp site he uses. I mean that's what happened to me. If he's in the US, then sure a lot of options and should find M-Test easy.
TommyTuffGuy
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I bet money he gets it on amazon for like $28 or whatever it was on PRIME like I used to. And it's vanished off there now.
thebigt
Legend
and sustain alpha goes great with m-test!!!
sns8778
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That was my thought as well. And that's also why I thought it was a bit convenient that some people were trying to promote other companies products rather than stating that M-Test is still available (and then suggesting theirs if they wanted to). And at first I wasn't going to say why, but screw it:
An Amazon retailer linked to a competing company here went into the M-Test product listing on Amazon and added the word CBD to the listing knowing that would automatically get it flagged on Amazon. For those that don't know, when this happens, the product is automatically taken down on Amazon and even after the company submits the required documentation to prove it isn't in there, it can take up to 8 weeks for the review to be completed. In some cases, it can take the company a long time to even figure out what happened. I'm sure they likely didn't know we were in the process of working with Amazon on some product setup so we had an actual rep that we could speak with about this and they confirmed it seemed to be a case of competitor sabotage.
So, M-Test will eventually be back on Amazon but it won't be for a few weeks to couple of months. I'm sorry for the inconvenience and hope that people will buy it from us or other retailers during that time.
As for the company that we're pretty sure is behind it, it's all good. Its like I've said in the past, its a shame that certain companies can't promote their own products without having to put down or trying to hurt the sales of others.
This situation, along with a couple of others recently, have been a real eye opener for me. I'm the type person that it's a lot easier to hurt my feelings than it is to make me mad; until I get mad. Over the years, I've been told that I was too nice in terms of competition by a lot of people; comically enough I've even been told that privately by 2 other competing companies reps. Because there were certain companies that I actually tried not to make directly competing products with out of respect for them or bc I liked them; and cases where when we did have a product close to someone else's, no matter how much they attacked us, I always took the high road and never said anything negative back about theirs and just focused on ours.
There have been several products/types of products that people have asked for us to make over the years that I haven't made because of these reasons, and I think that will likely change soon. I can put up with a lot and brush it off, but when a company goes to these lengths to sabotage a products sales, thats ridiculous.
Erikdrvn
New member
i wanted to buy this, Brawn Test Complete v2 but im worryed for the l-dopa,
in m-test the l-dopa is only 100mg but in this is 600 mg for a day!
could be a problem to take 600 mg of l-dopa every day?
KvanH
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Good observation. But I doubt it means that 98% of the Mucuna is L-Dopa. Makes no sense to me.
Erikdrvn
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last month i runned one bottle of Sup3r PCT that has 300mg of mucuna, and now im readign this on pubmed
5. Conclusions
Current research indicates that dopamine produced by chronic l-dopa at therapeutically relevant doses has detrimental effects on 5-HT systems, which may lead to cognitive impairments and ultimately impact quality of life of the PD patient. While current data support the role of l-dopa for inducing 5-HTergic deficits, more research is needed to further elucidate the degree to which 5-HT brain physiology is altered, and to what extent these 5-HT deficits contribute to non-motor symptoms in PD. Future work aimed at elucidating mechanisms by which l-dopa acts on 5-HT neurons will allow for the development of therapeutics that relieve both the motor and non-motor symptoms associated with PD. Although l-dopa is the most effective treatment for the motor symptoms of PD, the elucidation of the mechanisms that underlie the off-target and toxic side-effects to the 5-HT system and non-motor behaviors may help improve l-dopa therapy and warrants further investigation.
from this:
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And this speaking about substantia nigra plastic modification of the brain :
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A lot of healty people taking l-dopa long term im worryed for this..
sns8778
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I see that you are new to posting here so I'm not sure how long you've read here or how familiar your are with my posts. The only reason I'm saying that is because if you've seen a lot of my posts, you've probably seen that I have a policy to never say anything negative about competing companies or their products.
So, the only thing I'll say about that product is that I would not take it if you gave it to me (and the L-Dopa content is only one of the reasons).
I will point out that IF it were truly 98% L-Dopa and 600 mg. then thats an insane, irresponsible, and reckless dose.
The reason I don't think it is, beside the above is because if it were, it would be at over 6.00 per bottle cost for that ingredient alone.
Now in regard to the study you posted above, I glanced over it quickly and it doesn't seem to be anything I would worry about at all nor equate to normal supplement consumption, short or long term. They are talking Therapeutic dosages in regards to Parkinson which is a completely different realm on average than what we take in supplements.
I'm not disagreeing that 300 mg. per day of a 99% is high, but I don't think its dangerously high.
My personal daily Mucuna consumption is:
- M-Test - 100 mg. (blend of 95% and 20% extracts)
- Inhibit-P - 2 caps - 300 mg. (60% extract)
I hope this helps.
Erikdrvn
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Thanks to your reply anyway in that study that i linked they are talking of a group of healty people whitout parkinson and they taked 100mg of levodopa in orange juice everyday so not terapetic dosage, what other reason to not take this product if i can ask?
sns8778
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Sorry, I replied to you when I was rushing and should have worded it better. My intention was more to reassure you that I thought you would be fine since you seemed worried than it was to specifically talk about the study. How I should have phrased it as they were looking at Levodopa, a Parkinson's drug, not from Mucuna. And they did say therapeutic dosage several times in the abstract.
So my comment that stated:
They are talking Therapeutic dosages in regards to Parkinson which is a completely different realm on average than what we take in supplements.
^^^ What I meant was they were talking about it being a Parkinson's drug (not a natural source) and made statements about at therapeutic dosages. So if they were referring to it as a Parkinson's drug and said the words therapeutic dosage, it seemed like they were saying that they were testing it on healthy people but at the therapeutic dosage for Parkinson's, which isn't necessarily applicable to Mucuna dosing. I hope that makes sense.
There's no way I can publicly say anymore about why I wouldn't take that product without coming off like I am bashing them. You're welcome to pm me if you'd like.