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Telling your doctor?

NYhomeboy

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This is all hypothetical. I have not warranted any sides bad enough to visit the doctor. However, I have not yet had a blood panel (stupid... stupid) despite running several PH/Superdrol cycles.

That being said, when you go to your doctor are you supposed to tell him that you've run cycles before? I definitely do not want my medical insurance revoked. I'm also sort of scared of getting a blood panel with an endo for this reason. What do you all do to bypass this?
 
No no no. Never tell your doc that you've done any AAS. The less amount of people that know about your usage the better. If your panels come back not so good, just tell him you drink alcohol on a regular basis.
 
I would suggest telling your doctor. it is only being fair to yourself and your wellbeing. Specific issues arise in connectiont o their use. You know htey will not be okay with it, but they will also be able to counsel you and work you up for issues and health concerns that may arise with their use.
 
NYhomeboy said:
However, I have not yet had a blood panel (stupid... stupid) despite running several PH/Superdrol cycles.

What do you all do to bypass this?
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There is really only one way to bypass stupid...become knowledgeable and educate yourself.

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He is the deal about telling your doc - it becomes part of your permanent medical record. So when you apply for health insurance or life insurance etc and they review your med record it all comes out....
 
I personally would not tell unless I had developed life threatening complications due to use..which is not likely to happen if used properly. IMO, there's not much reward for admitting use if you not having any serious problems. Having a serious problem while on cycle may warrant disclosure as AAS may contraindicate treatment, but if not on cycle, then I can think of no real reason why former use would need to be considered in treatment.

If you destroyed your liver..well, you destroyed it and there's no special pill for oral AAS destroyed livers. Same with heart problems. Hypertrophic cardio myopathy would mean that you never use AAS again and you take whatever they give you.

Unfortunately it boils down to not losing your insurance if you have it. If you pay out of pocket...then you can disclose at will but you run the risk of having future insurance companies never pick you up.
 
bioman said:
I personally would not tell unless I had developed life threatening complications due to use..which is not likely to happen if used properly. IMO, there's not much reward for admitting use if you not having any serious problems. Having a serious problem while on cycle may warrant disclosure as anabolic steroids may contraindicate treatment, but if not on cycle, then I can think of no real reason why former use would need to be considered in treatment.

If you destroyed your liver..well, you destroyed it and there's no special pill for oral AAS destroyed livers. Same with heart problems. Hypertrophic cardio myopathy would mean that you never use AAS again and you take whatever they give you.

Unfortunately it boils down to not losing your insurance if you have it. If you pay out of pocket...then you can disclose at will but you run the risk of having future insurance companies never pick you up.
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Ex-freaking-actly.
 
parttimer said:
Does this go only for banned steriods or does this cover readily available supplements as well?
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Not sure what you are referring to. But any designer PHs/whatever are steriods even though they are still being sold.

And, unless its something like Devil's Claw or Fish Oil I wouldn't share anything with my doc. Need-to-know basis
 
Rage (SoCal) said:
Not sure what you are referring to. But any designer PHs/whatever are steriods even though they are still being sold.

And, unless its something like Devil's Claw or Fish Oil I wouldn't share anything with my doc. Need-to-know basis
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Thanks for the clarification. I was referring to Designer items.
 
"But steroids are illegal... so I bought this supplement legally because I heard good things about it and followed instructions". Would that work? I mean I can't imagine them dropping your insurance for using a completely legal dietary supplement w/ directions, no?
 
NYhomeboy said:
"But steroids are illegal... so I bought this supplement legally because I heard good things about it and followed instructions". Would that work? I mean I can't imagine them dropping your insurance for using a completely legal dietary supplement w/ directions, no?
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It doesn't really matter. They are designer steroids. Steroids in a hidden form really. It's only time that stands between them being illegal or not. Doctors only know what they were taught. Superdrol came out 2 years ago. They aren't teaching about Superdrol in Med School. Doctors don't even know what you're talking about even if you explained it. You'd have to say AAS and then they'd have a lead to follow from what they were taught. A large portion of doctors don't try to keep learning about new things. They just read the new england journal of medicine and call it a day.
 
Exactly, which is why if your blood pressure shoots up and your cholesterol levels get out of whack from superdrol use, you still need to have a reason if your doctor asks why it might be. If you say "I'm taking a supplement called Superdrol... not sure what it it is, but it might have something to do with it.", it's a lot better than saying "anabolic steroids", no?
 
Just play dumb. Your BP and cholesterol could shoot up for any number of reasons. Say that you've been eating alot of fast food lately and doing a little too much partying. Also mention that you're job is really stressing you out. Make something up. Telling your doc about your usage of steriods is just plain stupid.
 
idunk42 said:
Just play dumb. Your BP and cholesterol could shoot up for any number of reasons. Say that you've been eating alot of fast food lately and doing a little too much partying. Also mention that you're job is really stressing you out. Make something up. Telling your doc about your usage of steriods is just plain stupid.
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Exactly. Tell him it could be that you're hung over. Stressed out. The damn traffic. Too much heat. Dehydrated. Wacked off too much. Wacked off too little. It's that damn codeine again.

Anything but a supplement and anything but steroids. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND SUPPLEMENTS/HERBS/HOLISTIC MEDICINE. They do however understand Lipitor Lisopril and Oxycodone as well as knowing their way around the scalpel and syringe.
 
Oh the tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive.

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gotripped said:
Exactly. Tell him it could be that you're hung over. Stressed out. The damn traffic. Too much heat. Dehydrated. Wacked off too much. Wacked off too little. It's that damn codeine again.

Anything but a supplement and anything but steroids. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND SUPPLEMENTS/HERBS/HOLISTIC MEDICINE. They do however understand Lipitor Lisopril and Oxycodone as well as knowing their way around the scalpel and syringe.
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Well, when it comes to my patients who have disclosed that they have used them/are currently using, I advise them to stop, which is standard practice. No physician in his right mind will condone the use of ANY of these agents.

However, once disclosed, the physician has a right to treat adn evaluate all of the medical issues you have whether associated or not with their use. It is up to you as to how much you want to disclose but honesty will only allow for an accurate workup and better overall care to you. Wouldn't it be better to just say that you used a supplement that may have caused the increase in your blood pressure rather than having a million dollar work up for a cardiogenic/vascular etiology?

A doctor is obligated to start you on a lipid lowering agent if inital lifestyle modification strategies do not work.

Bottom line - listen to both sides of the argument. Find out what means most to you but do know that in the end, it is your body, it is your health your life that you are impacting.

It i strue, some doctors that do not specialize in sports medicine and nutriotion may not be as well versed in the supplement industry. Then again, you have a choice to seek out a doctor that may be knowledgeable in that area. You must admit, that the supplement industry, though large, is not the focus of medical care. I do agree that the future of medical education should incorporate these dimensions in practice because it is a growing field and more and more individuals are going this route.

The importance of medicine rises when things go WRONG. Not many will see a doctor for a checkup except when something is wrong. I just suggest be open, be honest. The choice is yours. Hope this helped shed some light.

Cheers.
 
That definitely helped share some light, especially from the other perspective. I do not like lying... I get huge anxiety when lying and do not like getting caught in a web of lies that I need to keep up. I think it would be better to say that I used a legal supplement not within the doctor's knowledge, if I should be in trouble with something like an enlarged liver, horrible lipids, etc, rather than lie about it. Whether or not my medical insurance will get revoked, I don't know, but if they can't revoke it for taking completely legal herbals, how would it be any different from completely legal supplements?
 
My doctor kept trying to get me to admit that I was on (funny thing was....this was before I'd even tried anything). I refused, and eventually changed doctors.
 
NYhomeboy said:
That definitely helped share some light, especially from the other perspective. I do not like lying... I get huge anxiety when lying and do not like getting caught in a web of lies that I need to keep up. I think it would be better to say that I used a legal supplement not within the doctor's knowledge, if I should be in trouble with something like an enlarged liver, horrible lipids, etc, rather than lie about it. Whether or not my medical insurance will get revoked, I don't know, but if they can't revoke it for taking completely legal herbals, how would it be any different from completely legal supplements?
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Every day pateints have adverse reactions to legally prescribed meds. What's to say that you didn't have a particular reaction to the supplement. THe role of insurance in this setting doesn't change - they are both the same essentially. Some peoplpe react positively to certain herbals, some get quite sick. Always be wary of what you introduce into your body.
 
rampage jackson said:
My doctor kept trying to get me to admit that I was on (funny thing was....this was before I'd even tried anything). I refused, and eventually changed doctors.
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That is the best part - you can CHOOSE your doctor. :-)
 
I went to my doctor to ask if I had gyno when I was younger. He looks at my chest (which was rather thick... obvious I BBed) and he said "No. That's just muscle. You must do pushups!"
 
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