Teens on steroids..

Thats it just wait for a little while. It takes time and effort. U will get there in the end. Train hard. Eat good and u will be fine
 
Cheif said:
Damn, no doubt that he will go some where in the bodybuilding world. He looks great.

I wonder what age he started juicing lol
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He had gyno by 16, so probably 14 or 15.
 
machorox123 said:
His legs are massive.. But hes got titties
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Lol yeah I predict gyno surgeries in his future. Funny how when you add a bunch of test into a system that's already producing a ton of it that it ends up aromatizing... Someone needs to teach the kid about AIs and (I'm guessing) prolactin inhibitors.
 
Blergs said:
and please dont tell me "but imfine" BS because you really dont know where you would have been if you wated till you where atleast 23.
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Lol true, but how many of these kids are actually going to wait that long?

None.

And hdrol, is below mild IMO.
so its not like he'll **** his life up forever. Give me a break bro hah

I have friends that juiced throughout highschool, and have grown since. ****, my friend Leo has been juicing since he was 15 like dumba** and he's damn near 7 foot tall.

All of this "your liver will explode", "you wont grow anymore", is mostly over speculation.
Sure there is science behind it all, but it would take an immense amount of steroids to really do this type of **** to you.

I am not condoning the use of superdrol, hence why i said I wouldn't recommend it.
He is going to take the **** if he wants to regardless of what people think.

May as well condone something that wont **** him up.

All in all, if he can wait, then wait. If not, then take something mild/that wont f*ck you up.
 
Cheif said:
Lol true, but how many of these kids are actually going to wait that long?

None.

And hdrol, is below mild IMO.
so its not like he'll **** his life up forever. Give me a break bro hah

I have friends that juiced throughout highschool, and have grown since. ****, my friend Leo has been juicing since he was 15 like dumba** and he's damn near 7 foot tall.

All of this "your liver will explode", "you wont grow anymore", is mostly over speculation.
Sure there is science behind it all, but it would take an immense amount of steroids to really do this type of **** to you.

I am not condoning the use of superdrol, hence why i said I wouldn't recommend it.
He is going to take the **** if he wants to regardless of what people think.

May as well condone something that wont **** him up.

All in all, if he can wait, then wait. If not, then take something mild/that wont f*ck you up.
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Most of the concern we express is about the effects on the endogenous test levels, rather than other potential sides. It's irresponsible to say that because a few guys you know have taken steroids and not NOTICED sides like stunted growth does not mean they didn't do any damage. Who knows what his test levels will be like if he comes off as opposed to where they could have been, or what his lipid profile looks like?

There is a possibility that by messing with your test levels that you can end up permanently doing damage. With most side effects, they are improbable until they happen to you. At that point, it doesn't really matter how improbable it was - it happened.

How many drugs have gotten all the way through the FDA only to be removed from the market because of some major harm that they have caused?

I'll get off my soapbox now, but I still think that we have a responsibility to give the best advice we can, and try to spend a lot longer convincing kids to wait than to tell them that mild steroids can't hurt them.
 
srblan said:
Most of the concern we express is about the effects on the endogenous test levels, rather than other potential sides. It's irresponsible to say that because a few guys you know have taken steroids and not NOTICED sides like stunted growth does not mean they didn't do any damage. Who knows what his test levels will be like if he comes off as opposed to where they could have been, or what his lipid profile looks like?

There is a possibility that by messing with your test levels that you can end up permanently doing damage. With most side effects, they are improbable until they happen to you. At that point, it doesn't really matter how improbable it was - it happened.

How many drugs have gotten all the way through the FDA only to be removed from the market because of some major harm that they have caused?

I'll get off my soapbox now, but I still think that we have a responsibility to give the best advice we can, and try to spend a lot longer convincing kids to wait than to tell them that mild steroids can't hurt them.
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Thank you for your mature response buddy.

Yes I understand what you are saying completely.
I am not pulling any of this out of my ass though, no lie.
My friend just had a kid, when he cycled at 16.
He hasn't worked out in years, and is still in good shape.

Leo hasn't stunted his growth, and has a daughter.

I am just saying, some people freak out to much.
I have plenty of living proof around me to see this is true.
Ofcourse it is not a good idea, I will give you that. But it wont ruin a kids test levels for life to run hdrol.

and like I said, I don't condone the use of them until you really know what you are doing, and are at the right age.
But if he were to cycle and say **** it to everyones advice, he will atleast leave here knowing that harsher compounds will **** him up.

I completely understand what point you are getting to though.
Don't tell someone underage that cycling is okay, got it.

I was leaning more towards "if you were to run something anyways, go with something that wont ruin your life".
not "hell yeah, cycle this ****"
If you catch my drift.
 
You can be on cycle and technically fully suppressed and still have a kid, people on TRT have kids as well (although somtimes this requires a little magic with clomid/hcg I believe).

ManBeast
 
Mrpersinality said:
You can have your levels pretty low and still be fertile
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True, but no matter what age taking steroids is going to affect your natural test production.
If you can still have kids, then your test levels aren't complete crap.

That is one of the biggest scares among people when using DS/AAS/PH. Infertility.
Something that would take alot of steroid abuse to achieve.
You can always go on TRT if your test levels are screwed over, you cannot replace something like sperm cells.
All of this is besides the point though.

Ultimately, this can all be avoided IF he waits.
IF he doesnt wait, then he shouldn't go with anything considered "harsh".
 
ManBeast said:
You can be on cycle and technically fully suppressed and still have a kid, people on TRT have kids as well (although somtimes this requires a little magic with clomid/hcg I believe).

ManBeast
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Good point, but once your sexual reproductive organs are f*cked, they are almost always f*cked for good.

This is something I want the kid to avoid, if he decides to cycle and disregard what people say.

Hence, why I recommended hdrol above anything else IF he were to cycle.
 
I don't pay attention to stuff like that, I have a hard enough time trying to save people who come here with stupid ideas...

ManBeast
 
My buddy has been taking test for the past 7 weeks, started taking deca first for like 4-5 weeks (he's 20) as much as I hate that he has passed me in some weights, I still hold back on joining him. I've been lifting for about 5 years. Diet is decent but not the best so I chose to hold back till I understand everything about AAS's and get a proper diet in+ wait a few years. I'm 178 pounds with a 45" chest with 16.4 arms. I'm 5"11.
Squat about 340 for 4
Dead lift 375 for 2
Bench 110 db for 5
Hoping by the time I start using I'll be about 195 and real lean. And if I still want to take that rout I will be willing/ understand that I could end up on trt later down the road and that don't bother me.
Been researching for about 2 years jut reading forums. So just know what ya getting into.
 
thyrod said:
My buddy has been taking test for the past 7 weeks, started taking deca first for like 4-5 weeks (he's 20) as much as I hate that he has passed me in some weights, I still hold back on joining him. I've been lifting for about 5 years. Diet is decent but not the best so I chose to hold back till I understand everything about AAS's and get a proper diet in+ wait a few years. I'm 178 pounds with a 45" chest with 16.4 arms. I'm 5"11.
Squat about 340 for 4
Dead lift 375 for 2
Bench 110 db for 5
Hoping by the time I start using I'll be about 195 and real lean. And if I still want to take that rout I will be willing/ understand that I could end up on trt later down the road and that don't bother me.
Been researching for about 2 years jut reading forums. So just know what ya getting into.
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Props to ya. Keep on the straight n narrow long as you can. Who knos once you get bit older you may reevaluate n decide you Dont need um at all. 190 n lean is a nice size n good look.
 
^^^ good bit of advice 190 is a nice size just up. You food intake. And normaly in time your metabolism will slow down any way. So u will find it easyer to put wait on.
 
ManBeast said:
I don't pay attention to stuff like that, I have a hard enough time trying to save people who come here with stupid ideas...

ManBeast
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Lmao i was lurking earlier and saw your reply to that 17 year old kid wanting to take superdrol haha

Sad sad, he wont get far with the "I dont give a ****" mentality.
 
thyrod said:
My buddy has been taking test for the past 7 weeks, started taking deca first for like 4-5 weeks (he's 20) as much as I hate that he has passed me in some weights, I still hold back on joining him. I've been lifting for about 5 years. Diet is decent but not the best so I chose to hold back till I understand everything about AAS's and get a proper diet in+ wait a few years. I'm 178 pounds with a 45" chest with 16.4 arms. I'm 5"11.
Squat about 340 for 4
Dead lift 375 for 2
Bench 110 db for 5
Hoping by the time I start using I'll be about 195 and real lean. And if I still want to take that rout I will be willing/ understand that I could end up on trt later down the road and that don't bother me.
Been researching for about 2 years jut reading forums. So just know what ya getting into.
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Very good my friend. Just make sure that you really want to do this before you start though man.

Like others have stated though, a lean 190 is a great look.
Unless you want to look like a freak. Which is always awesome too. haha
 
Well to be honest I like the hgh gut. Ha, but I'm looking to be about 220 at the age of 30... Be all that I can be^^
 
thyrod said:
Well to be honest I like the hgh gut. Ha, but I'm looking to be about 220 at the age of 30... Be all that I can be^^
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Very nice man haha

And if you're serious about the gut.. me too.. lolol I dont know why, I think it looks beastly.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Lol I think the gut is ugly.
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I understand completely lol.
Certainly not the most attractive thing.

I don't know why I like it really haha I just do.
It can get really out of hand on some people though. Lol
 
AaronJP1 said:
Never seen it? Pix?
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It's that belly that almost every pro bodybuilder has.

Their gut sticks out, but it's still ripped with and showing.
Surely you'll know what we are talking about after you google it. :p
 
Cheif said:
It's that belly that almost every pro bodybuilder has.

Their gut sticks out, but it's still ripped with and showing.
Surely you'll know what we are talking about after you google it. :p
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That's GH gut. Bodybuilders before GH didn't have that. Look at Arnold and the guys of his day, no gut at all.
 
Mrpersinality said:
That's GH gut. Bodybuilders before GH didn't have that. Look at Arnold and the guys of his day, no gut at all.
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The GH gut is what I was referring to man.
That is also why most bodybuilders these days also do not have the vacuum look to their abs.
 
nope, its GH and/or IGF causing the intestines to grow and bulge out the stomach.

ManBeast
 
jonesBones40 said:
I thought it was increased estrogen that caused the gut?
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Nah man it's caused from growth of your intestines from using growth hormones.

Lol
 
Actually there r several pros who don't have it now. For example, Heath, Wolfe, Centopani, Martinez, and etc.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Actually there r several pros who don't have it now. For example, Heath, Wolfe, Centopani, Martinez, and etc.
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Yea it's not buldging out bad with them but they couldn't get that sunken in look if they wanted to.
 
Mrpersinality said:
Yea it's not buldging out bad with them but they couldn't get that sunken in look if they wanted to.
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Yeah that's true, theirs don't look bad though cuz they're pretty proportionate.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Actually there r several pros who don't have it now. For example, Heath, Wolfe, Centopani, Martinez, and etc.
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Many still do though. :p
It doesn't look bad though, of everything else looks good.

This is off subject, but Dennis Wolf has one of the best bodies in the game IMO.

He got robbed at this years Olympia.
 
ginge205 said:
Ive always wondered how the men at the gym get massive bellys but still got giant 6 packs.
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ginge205 said:
Wolf is amazing but so is kia Greene
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Haha it's the GH man.

And definitely, Kai Greene is my favorite bodybuilder.
Very kind hearted, great philosophy. And awesome physique.

Wolf's symmetry and aesthetics is hard to beat though.

Not saying one is better than the other, because Kai does have some size on Wolf.

They're both great though.
 
Yeah total agree wolf is amazingly shaped. And Greene id just such a great person to watch and so humbly and what he says always has a meaning. Both at the top of the game. Its unreal how they do it never stops amazing me
 
I couldn't figure out why Wolf never placed up top myself. The only weak spot I could even think of were his calves and that is a stretch...

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AZMIDLYF said:
I couldn't figure out why Wolf never placed up top myself. The only weak spot I could even think of were his calves and that is a stretch...

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Politics bud. You think cutler deserved each of his Olympias? No way, MAYBE half of them.
 
GMG760 said:
Politics bud. You think cutler deserved each of his Olympias? No way, MAYBE half of them.
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Yep your completely right. Last year Heath was clearly the winner, he made some freaky changes to his physique. I sh*t myself.
 
What Heath has done with his physique is outstanding! He really has found that mass/symetry combination. And I agree that there is politics in everything.
 
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