TD Trest & other DS 12 week recomp

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After consulting with many guys on here I decided on my spring recomp (Slight calorie surplus but keeping the cardio). I am currently 6ft, 215lbs, 16% bf. 1100lbs big 3. Been cycling for a few years now but this will be my first time using Trest, Caber, HCG and 11KT. It will also be my first time running a cycle longer than 8 weeks as it was impossible going longer with 4AD as a base. With that said, if things get a little too rough I may shorten the run to 8 weeks or at least trade in the SD at the end for my bottle of Havoc Epi or Var. I am mainly logging this because of the lack of info on longer trest/ph cycles on the forum. I couldn't find much similar to this anyway. I will be doing an inbody scan before and after to show solid numbers for progress. Nothings set in stone and I am posting early so theres time to order something else if need be. Start date is March 2nd, 2020. Should be a brutal but fun run. Routine will be Pull-Push-Legs-Pull-Push-Legs-Off. My macros are currently 45-35-20% Pro-Carb-Fat but I will adjust for higher carbs during cycle.

Goal: Gain decent muscle without gaining fat. Keep the "bulk" clean. Not get tits. Grow a beard to hide the bloated hammerhead shark face.

Anabolics:
7-Alpha Ace TD(Trest) - 30mg for week 1-12 (Shoutout to Ripper & PRE for the help on this)
Nanodrol(Msten) - 22.5mg for week 1-4
XI-KT Invictus TD(11Keto) - 1ml per day week 5-8
Methdrol(SD) - 20mg for week 9-12
*Note* I have Anavar and Havoc Epistane on hand if I want to do week 9-12 but don't feel I can handle SD.

Aux:
Cabergoline
Aromasin
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolva
Cialis
Pura D'or anti thinning shampoo

Support:
1G Tudca - week 1-12
Ar1macare pro - week 1-12
HCG 250IU every 5 days(Slin needles in subq belly fat) - week 3-12
All the Vitaminz and fish oilz.

Attaching a pic of my stash just for funsies. Lots of extra if I want to swap or bump up doses haha. Welcome to those who wish to follow along and put their .02$ in. I am bad for frequent updates but if theres interest i will try.
 

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Interested in this one. TD trest didn’t impress me but I’ve seen a lot of people that love it.
 
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Now i see why the 7 alpha is out of stock. I'll be following this one.
 
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Starting today as planned despite the mild cold at 214lbs. Incidentally its also my rest day as I will be flying all day. Cant wait to hit the gym tomorrow.

I did not miss the taste of Nanodrol. 7ace smells like liquitren but had a slight sting to it.
 
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Starting today as planned despite the mild cold at 214lbs. Incidentally its also my rest day as I will be flying all day. Cant wait to hit the gym tomorrow.

I did not miss the taste of Nanodrol. 7ace smells like liquitren but had a slight sting to it.
I highly recommend switching application sites for the TD 7ace. It will burn you good doing it week after week in the same spot every day.
 
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Day 2. No weight change. Trained chest and tris but no noticeable changes yet of course. Ive barely been able to stay awake the last 2 days which is normal the first few days of a cycle for me. 3 naps in today lol.

Fell down 3 stairs onto frozen gravel. Knee might be a lil sore for legs tomorrow. Should be fun.
 
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Day 3. No changes in workout but felt bloated. Decided my AI protocol will be .25 caber e3d and 12.5 asin e3d for now. Pee got darker and my daily 100 pushups in the office morning routine was alot easier than normal today. Stamina up already? Good sign.
 
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Day 3. No changes in workout but felt bloated. Decided my AI protocol will be .25 caber e3d and 12.5 asin e3d for now. Pee got darker and my daily 100 pushups in the office morning routine was alot easier than normal today. Stamina up already? Good sign.
Wait until you start filling out. Nothing has filled me out as fast as the PRE TD Alpha Ace.
 
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Wait until you start filling out. Nothing has filled me out as fast as the PRE TD Alpha Ace.
To be honest i feel like i look more jacked. But im not heavier yet. Im only at 2400 calories so i figured it was my imagination at day 2/3.
 
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To be honest i feel like i look more jacked. But im not heavier yet. Im only at 2400 calories so i figured it was my imagination at day 2/3.
By the end your traps will be hanging off your ears
 
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Day 4. My digital scale is out of comission until my next day off in 8 or 9 days so ill have to rely on my gyms crappy needle scale in the evening. Trained back and biceps today.

Finally something to report. Motivation is high but most importantly im doubling my reps on the weights ive been stuck on for a while. 3x 10-12 reps on cable rows, lat pulldkwns and preacher curls. 220, 220 and 115lbs in that respective order. Getting 6 was a challenge a week ago. Super happy about this. I also feel like my biceps and lats were gonna burst 1 set in. Im also not feeling sick like i usually did with 4ad. Its early to call but seems 7 alpha is gonna be awesome like you all said.


I have bumped up calories to 2600 today which is high for me. I went as low as 1700 in my 6 months of cutting prior to this. Slowly bringing it back up but eating this much has been challenging for me. Im a husky guy with a slow metabolism to begin with.
 

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Day 5. Chest and tris.

Seems yesterday was not just a good day. Same thing happened today. Nearly doubled my reps with same weight on everything with ease. 3 sets of 6x 265 on decline bench which was my all time best over a year ago when i stuffed my face and didnt do cardio all summer. After months of cutting i could barely get 3 reps once at that weight.
 
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Day 6. Legs and a little bit of rear delts and shrugs.

Another awesome workout with higher reps. But i have been overdoing it a bit. The daily farmer walk is killing my arms. Since im working a 11 day shift and tomorrow is day 6 ill make it an early rest day.

My side goals this cycle have been to do calf raise daily. 100 pushups every morning. Wrist roller whenever i can. One ab exercise a day. And 15 min threadmill farmer walk with 45lb plates post workout. Trying to get some traps. Ive been doing a little extra arm work also. I am currently at 17" but i was close to 19" two summers ago and i would like to get back to that.

I have not trained this intensely in a long time. I am in pain even during my sleep and sore all day after. Not losing motivation or libido. Looking full ish and not feeling too bloated. I have not mentioned this but i got a new nutritionist last month and I am seeing good results so far. Lots of turkey and nuts.

The only down side so far is that whenever im not doing anything or watching a show i fall asleep. Not sure why exactly but this usually happens on cycle for me for some reason.
 
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Ive been busy but going a bit easier at the gym due to 16h shifts past couple days. Not falling asleep anymore seems like im past that bump. Still feeling good. I should note that im splitting nano into 3x .5ml dose and 7ace .5 in am and .5 in evening. Switching quads and delts for 7ace.

I wonder if applying 7ace post shower would help. Pores being open...
 
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Ive been busy but going a bit easier at the gym due to 16h shifts past couple days. Not falling asleep anymore seems like im past that bump. Still feeling good. I should note that im splitting nano into 3x .5ml dose and 7ace .5 in am and .5 in evening. Switching quads and delts for 7ace.

I wonder if applying 7ace post shower would help. Pores being open...
That’s how I applied it after shower on shoulders and clavicles.
 
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That’s how I applied it after shower on shoulders and clavicles.
Makes sense really. Read about it on pred and my broscience instincts say i should start taking 2x hot showers a day. Only issue is ill be taking my second dose post workout before bed and my first dose first thing in the morning.


I dont think this matters much with a TD and especially with the ace thing keeping it jn my blood for longer than regular trest.
 
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Makes sense really. Read about it on pred and my broscience instincts say i should start taking 2x hot showers a day. Only issue is ill be taking my second dose post workout before bed and my first dose first thing in the morning.


I dont think this matters much with a TD and especially with the ace thing keeping it jn my blood for longer than regular trest.
It won’t matter with TD you feel like GOD all day anyway.
 
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Hit legs last night. 218lbs ish.

What a night i had. Went to bed at 10. Woke up at 11 and felt like i slept 8hrs. Im not sure what kept me awake half the night... the raging boner and sex dreams or the intense pain in my traps and legs.

I feel like my libido is 2x higher than normal and all those mini PRs are hurting like crazy. It was so bad i looked for melatonin and ibuprofen. I have never experienced anything like this. Being so horny its annoying. Hopefully corona doesnt shut down airports and i can go ravage my gf and her gf next week lol. Couldnt find any so i used the big guns - BSL's anesthetized. That **** puts me out in 2mins flat.


All in all - day 10 im seeing some real gains.
 
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after living like this I will never date a straight girl ever again.
Lol that’s badass! Be prepared for 24hr a day boners with trest. It gets in the way and you keep banging it on walls and corners when walking. You’ve been warned. And trust me, you cannot kill that sumbitch
 
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Hit legs today. Added 50lbs. I havent gone past 225 since 2 years ago when my hernia came back at 315. I immediately noticed my traps were thicker when i put the bar on them.

Might be the cold but im approaching week 3 and my nuts are gonna need an hcg shot tomorrow i think. Watched lots of videos on proper mixing and looks easy. Seems I have enough for 500iu shots every 5 days. Ill start with 250 and see how it goes. First pin ever.
 
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Once you penetrate yourself, it’s hard to stop.
Thats why I have not used test yet. I know myself all too well. Once i cross the line theres no turning back. Lets see if I can be satisfied with just wetting my toes. I convinced myself it was ok as it was more for my health than chemical gainz in a syringe.
 
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Thats why I have not used test yet. I know myself all too well. Once i cross the line theres no turning back. Lets see if I can be satisfied with just wetting my toes. I convinced myself it was ok as it was more for my health than chemical gainz in a syringe.
People get this notion that if it’s in a needle it’s extreme, meanwhile they’ll gobble up toxic pills and slather on solvent-based rubs twice a day for gainz. It’s just a very perverse subconscious fallacy most of us fall into, that needles make it hardcore. Probably from intravenous narcotic drug use, but an IM shot is very different and much safer than that.
 
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People get this notion that if it’s in a needle it’s extreme, meanwhile they’ll gobble up toxic pills and slather on solvent-based rubs twice a day for gainz. It’s just a very perverse subconscious fallacy most of us fall into, that needles make it hardcore. Probably from intravenous narcotic drug use, but an IM shot is very different and much safer than that.
For me thats not it at all. I just mean that I would never stop. The way I see it is you do this for a few years and quit while youre ahead OR it becomes a lifestyle aka TRT. I have 0 temptation to swallow toxic pills a decade from now. Id feel like garbage. Test on the other hand would be pleasant and I would probably never want to get off.

Feel good vs feel bad. Only one of the two i could do very long term. Altho its still to be seen if i do manage to get out while i am ahead. At the end of the day we do this **** for bad reasons. Vanity. Greed. Lust. Me included. Whether its a pill or a needle. Unless youre on trt and do it for health reasons.
 
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Like it or not now once you see the results from Trest you body won’t respond as much to test. If you start your going to have to run a hefty dose to even compare to Trest. You didn’t get your toes wet you jumped the **** in.
 
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Like it or not now once you see the results from Trest you body won’t respond as much to test. If you start your going to have to run a hefty dose to even compare to Trest. You didn’t get your toes wet you jumped the **** in.
So true. TD trest and halodrol blew the doors of my first IM test at 600 mgs and 50 mg anadrol. I was underwhelmed with first pin cycle, BUT, with trt you can keep gains and keep on gaining.
 
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So true. TD trest and halodrol blew the doors of my first IM test at 600 mgs and 50 mg anadrol. I was underwhelmed with first pin cycle, BUT, with trt you can keep gains and keep on gaining.
I agree with this but still, he's at 30mg. The difference between even 30mg and 45mg is huge. At 30, I don't think it matches up results wise to a 500mg cycle, but that's just my experience. The hardest part is to not jump up to 45mg...then 60...then 75. At those doses, no amount of test could compare. In fact I haven't yet found anything that can.
 
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I had a pretty good reply typed in but clicked on that damn topic of the week...


Long story short. The trest has been great so far. It was hard to get into canada so i want to hold on to the rest in case i decide to do my last cycle in 2021 as planned but if i do reach the rest of my goals then ill give it to my buddy and call it quits while im ahead. Wont go above 30mg and risk gyno as im doing great now. Plus itll be easier to resell to my roommate bud as a set than a partial cycles worth. I know it doesnt make sense to some but this is how i have navigated the waters to stay in control. We are all different and thats where i chose to draq the line. And i do agree that potency wise it seems i did jump in.


Moving on and going back to the log - driving to the pharmacy now. Buying a 5ml syringe and a sterile vial to mix the hcg. I dont want to be pumping half mils from bottle to bottle.
 
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I agree with this but still, he's at 30mg. The difference between even 30mg and 45mg is huge. At 30, I don't think it matches up results wise to a 500mg cycle, but that's just my experience. The hardest part is to not jump up to 45mg...then 60...then 75. At those doses, no amount of test could compare. In fact I haven't yet found anything that can.
Each his own I felt better on 30mg of TD Ace then I do right now on over a gram of test with DHB and NPP.
 
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Late to the party but I like the cycle and it seems like you are sticking to a very solid plan as far as your dosages
 
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Well looks like ill be living at work on the west coast for a while. Having roomie ship me the rest of my stack so i can continue.


First hcg shot. I ended up doing 500iu. Wasnt thinking.... shouldnt cause any estrogen issues i think?

I was slightly nervous as it was my first injection but i felt nothing. Easy... too easy. Not sure if 23gauge IM is similar to slin pins but now all i can think about is how easy it would be to do a TNT cycle. And that folks is why I did not want to wet my toes. Should be fine tho. Its just hcg.
 
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HCG will raise estro some. If you feel it, can always hit a little more AI if needed. Feel it out.
 
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Luckily I am in the only canadian province that is basically Corona free. Our gyms are not shut down and they will not until they legally have to. I have decided to stay here and work everyday. No point going home when theres no gyms or bars open lol.

Buddy priority shipped the rest of my cycle and I should get it tomorrow to continue smoothly.

In any case, workouts have been great. Pushing more weight every workout. I can now 3-6 reps my old 1rm on every big lift. Im going to try to get my bench to 315. Squat to 365 and dead to 500. My workouts have been taking nearly 3 hours. Surpassing limits has a price and its long rests but i have also been adding sets. Not sure if im being lazy or doing amazing but im transforming daily so thats good.

I do feel slightly nauseous since last night. Week 3 of nanodrol i guess thats about normal. Kinda feel like i should be eating more... like my bodys devouring itself. Ill probably hit up my nutritionist friday to see how we should proceed.

TLDR: Workouts are great. Feeling great. Hcg got my balls big.(pumps that acdc song) and i aint quitting unless we go on lockdown. Sent the gf a selfie and she couldnt believe how much i changed in 2 weeks.
 
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Got one last great leg day in. I spoke too sooon. All gyms in canada are now shut down. Ill find out by sat where im going. I will most likely buy a full basement gym but in the off chance i get sent to a job in the bush ill have to pull the plug. I give myself until saturday to figure it out.

At home workouts for the next 2 days until i figure this **** out. F you corona virus.
 

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