TD TREST experiences?!?!?! Cycle ideas/help

Texasflexin33

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Im looking to run my 3rd cycle this summer, probably in about 4-8 weeks. I had ran m1a for my first cycle and everything went great. I got my bloods back and my liver enzymes were barely even budged, never even came out of range. My 2nd cycle was more or less an attempt to solidy my gains from the first cycle. I ran hex, and methyldiazirinol. The methyl turned out to be bunk but the hex dried me out, made me feel good. It was underwhelming but i didnt dose too high because i was hoping the methyl would be the banger. Oh well **** happens.

Current stats
22 yo
3rd cycle
5 foot 6
195 lbs
Sub 10% pretty much all the time.

Support supps
Tudca/nac
Fish oils
Multi
Astragulus
(I have adex, aromasin, exemestane, and letro but i need to decide test base first obviously)

3rd cycle idea
Havoc epistane 30/30/30/40/40/40
M1a (hc bulk) 20/20/20
Androsterone (viciouslabs) 600/600/600/600/600/600

Test base options- androtest 4AD, freak show 4-dhea, olympus labs trans tr3st

Im havin a hard time picking out a test base. Androtest is 25mg per cap, i have 4 bottles so money isn't the issue, i just dont know how effective 200mg ED will be. Maybe ill do 400? Seems like ill be putting down a million caps. Anyone know how much 4 ad would keep the dick working?

Id rather do the tr3st but im paranoid about recovery for pct. I know 19nors are brutal on the shutdown, can anyone give me their experiences with recovering from TD trestolone?



So this is what im askin, 4AD vs trest for t base? How much 4AD is needed for an effective dose? What are your experiences with trest, and your recovery from that trest cycle
 
Texasflexin33 said:
Im looking to run my 3rd cycle this summer, probably in about 4-8 weeks. I had ran m1a for my first cycle and everything went great. I got my bloods back and my liver enzymes were barely even budged, never even came out of range. My 2nd cycle was more or less an attempt to solidy my gains from the first cycle. I ran hex, and methyldiazirinol. The methyl turned out to be bunk but the hex dried me out, made me feel good. It was underwhelming but i didnt dose too high because i was hoping the methyl would be the banger. Oh well **** happens.

Current stats
22 yo
3rd cycle
5 foot 6
195 lbs
Sub 10% pretty much all the time.

Support supps
Tudca/nac
Fish oils
Multi
Astragulus
(I have adex, aromasin, exemestane, and letro but i need to decide test base first obviously)

3rd cycle idea
Havoc epistane 30/30/30/40/40/40
M1a (hc bulk) 20/20/20
Androsterone (viciouslabs) 600/600/600/600/600/600

Test base options- androtest 4AD, freak show 4-dhea, olympus labs trans tr3st

Im havin a hard time picking out a test base. Androtest is 25mg per cap, i have 4 bottles so money isn't the issue, i just dont know how effective 200mg ED will be. Maybe ill do 400? Seems like ill be putting down a million caps. Anyone know how much 4 ad would keep the dick working?

Id rather do the tr3st but im paranoid about recovery for pct. I know 19nors are brutal on the shutdown, can anyone give me their experiences with recovering from TD trestolone?



So this is what im askin, 4AD vs trest for t base? How much 4AD is needed for an effective dose? What are your experiences with trest, and your recovery from that trest cycle
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Trest is much stronger than 4AD.

While 4AD is a one step conversion away from its target, Trest is just so much more potent on a mg to mg basis (Even compared to Test itself).

You will need an AI on hand though. Being as potent as it is, you will require one very likely at some point due to its heavy conversion to Estrogen.

I've used both 4AD and Trest. 4AD I had to dose at 6-7 caps per day to even feel anything.

Trest on the other hand, up to 100mg maximum served me just fine.

Recovery with a proper PCT was fine as well. Had bloods done after both my runs of Trest (Oral and TD) and it was with Epi as well, and everything recovered fine.
 
Texasflexin33 said:
Im looking to run my 3rd cycle this summer, probably in about 4-8 weeks. I had ran m1a for my first cycle and everything went great. I got my bloods back and my liver enzymes were barely even budged, never even came out of range. My 2nd cycle was more or less an attempt to solidy my gains from the first cycle. I ran hex, and methyldiazirinol. The methyl turned out to be bunk but the hex dried me out, made me feel good. It was underwhelming but i didnt dose too high because i was hoping the methyl would be the banger. Oh well **** happens.

Current stats
22 yo
3rd cycle
5 foot 6
195 lbs
Sub 10% pretty much all the time.

Support supps
Tudca/nac
Fish oils
Multi
Astragulus
(I have adex, aromasin, exemestane, and letro but i need to decide test base first obviously)

3rd cycle idea
Havoc epistane 30/30/30/40/40/40
M1a (hc bulk) 20/20/20
Androsterone (viciouslabs) 600/600/600/600/600/600

Test base options- androtest 4AD, freak show 4-dhea, olympus labs trans tr3st

Im havin a hard time picking out a test base. Androtest is 25mg per cap, i have 4 bottles so money isn't the issue, i just dont know how effective 200mg ED will be. Maybe ill do 400? Seems like ill be putting down a million caps. Anyone know how much 4 ad would keep the dick working?

Id rather do the tr3st but im paranoid about recovery for pct. I know 19nors are brutal on the shutdown, can anyone give me their experiences with recovering from TD trestolone?



So this is what im askin, 4AD vs trest for t base? How much 4AD is needed for an effective dose? What are your experiences with trest, and your recovery from that trest cycle
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Hey bro, never a fan of someone at 22 running cycles but your stats suggest your pretty jacked and know what you are doing so fair enough.

I’m running epistane and td trest (plus epiandro pwo) at the moment. Trest is really wet, if you want to add size it’d be a great option (and feels amazing), I’ve run 4-andro before (and have 4-ad stashed) as a base and that’s a much drier look but didn’t feel as good on cycle.

Depends on what your goal is really. You’ll also have to manage trest more, would likely need to use an ai to keep e in check (to be honest not been a big issue for me but many others do get loads of gyno issues).

I’m enjoying my epi/trest run so much I’d be biased towards it but it’s definitely not a cut look (on cycle anyway, I’m hoping the water drops off in pct and more definition appears then).
 
Ok on that note, i think ill rock 6 caps a day of androtest. Im wanting quality tissue and when i retain water my bp goes up and i feel like **** even when i was natty.

The reality is i want to be a pro. Bodybuilding is my life and its been my life since i was a child and my step mom competed. At 22 i dont advise aas for others, but this is something ive studied for years and im aware of the consequences. I dont want to look back on life and wonder what if. Id rather risk it all to accomplish what i set out to do. Will i always do everything i can to prioritize health? Certainly. But to do what i want to do there is risk involved. So long walk for a short drink, im just saying your correct. 22 yo shouldn't juice. Ive trained natty for 8 years, figured it was about that time
 
If you were in it for the long haul and compete as you say, youd skip the short oral cycles and pin.
 
Texasflexin33 said:
Ok on that note, i think ill rock 6 caps a day of androtest. Im wanting quality tissue and when i retain water my bp goes up and i feel like **** even when i was natty.

The reality is i want to be a pro. Bodybuilding is my life and its been my life since i was a child and my step mom competed. At 22 i dont advise aas for others, but this is something ive studied for years and im aware of the consequences. I dont want to look back on life and wonder what if. Id rather risk it all to accomplish what i set out to do. Will i always do everything i can to prioritize health? Certainly. But to do what i want to do there is risk involved. So long walk for a short drink, im just saying your correct. 22 yo shouldn't juice. Ive trained natty for 8 years, figured it was about that time
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In fairness to achieve your goal you’d have to juice bro.

If that is the goal though obviously you’d be better off pinning......safer and much better keepable gains (I’ve not pinned myself yet and never have any intention to compete but still plan to pin mainly for health reasons)....
 
Valid points. For me at classic physique i really dont have that much more room to fit in my class. This is the last of my stash, im going to take this cycle, hopefully retain 8-10 lbs. That would put me over 200 and im lean and dry already. After this stack i dont see myself having to run super harsh cycles, im assuming test + mast will be great for obtaining the look im going for, maybe just maybe if i keep dose and duration sane i could avoid needing trt....lol im 22 prolly not haha
 
Aside from conditioning, Id imagine your biggest concern now would be tweaking and bringing up lagging bodyparts.

I havent seen him around for awhile, but fueledpassion would have some great advice on this
 
the only problem I see is once you go trest you never go back.. its the best stuff on earth.. feels good and your still able to have secksy time with the ladies.. its hard to drive on.. u are bound to get in a wreck while checking out any female that walks by./.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
the only problem I see is once you go trest you never go back.. its the best stuff on earth.. feels good and your still able to have secksy time with the ladies.. its hard to drive on.. u are bound to get in a wreck while checking out any female that walks by./.
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You must be on some sort of super Trest Haha, I have seen all these reviews and a lot of guys saying it makes libido crazy but hasn’t done much of anything for mine. Hmmm
 
Geoffr said:
You must be on some sort of super Trest Haha, I have seen all these reviews and a lot of guys saying it makes libido crazy but hasn’t done much of anything for mine. Hmmm
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that's weird .. I have never taken it, and not experienced it. that's why they are studying it for male contraceptive.. as it kills the sperm but not the libido.
maybe you got bunk ish bro..
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
that's weird .. I have never taken it, and not experienced it. that's why they are studying it for male contraceptive.. as it kills the sperm but not the libido.
maybe you got bunk ish bro..
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Nah brother, Oral Trest was from PRE and it worked great PWO. Just not libido boost, same with TD MENT I’m taking..
 
Geoffr said:
Nah brother, Oral Trest was from PRE and it worked great PWO. Just not libido boost, same with TD MENT I’m taking..
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well orally it has a half life of 40 mins.. so taking it pre work out wouldn't elicit the libido response.
who sells topical MENT? and again are you only using it pre work out/.??> I never heard of MENT(saying its the PH to trest) being used for anything other than pre work out because of its half life.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
well orally it has a half life of 40 mins.. so taking it pre work out wouldn't elicit the libido response.
who sells topical MENT? and again are you only using it pre work out/.??> I never heard of MENT(saying its the PH to trest) being used for anything other than pre work out because of its half life.
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I think I was drunk when I typed that, half of it didn’t even make sense lol.....

Normal Ment (Oral) is what I meant to say...
 
I've run Trest as a base in 2 different cycles.

1) Dermatrest x 6 weeks, 4Andro 300mg x 8 weeks , Epiandro 1000mg x 8 weeks, Halo 75 mg x 6 weeks.

Exem 12.5mg e3d

PCT
Clomid 50, 25,25,25, & OL Kings blood

2)Dermatrest x 8 weeks 125mg, Halo 75 mg x 6 weeks

PCT Same

1) Very wet gains.Put on 20lbs. Lost about 12 in PCT

2)Much harder gains about 12-15 lbs. Kept about 10.

In both cases I recovered fully with no problem at all. I even conceived a child during PCT. I think the male contraceptive thing is a little overstated.
 
Damn. I got way more info than i imagined when i threw this up. Yall are ****in great. Thank you!

Based on the information so far im going to go ahead and use the trest as a test base. That being said for the first time in my life im going to hire a coach. The next 4 months will be no drugs(except tree of course), no alcohol, no ****in around. I know this is lame but im going to hold of on the TREST stack for at least 4 months and see what i can accomplish without drugs. Im convinced i have more muscle to put on before i commit to AAS. When the stars align, and my training and nutrition is TRULY optimal, my metabolic pannel is truly optimal, I will run the stack. I will run the Olympus labs TR3ST, Havoc Epistane, m1A and androsterone. Once again, thanks guys this ****in helped a lot!
 
Texasflexin33 said:
Damn. I got way more info than i imagined when i threw this up. Yall are ****in great. Thank you!

Based on the information so far im going to go ahead and use the trest as a test base. That being said for the first time in my life im going to hire a coach. The next 4 months will be no drugs(except tree of course), no alcohol, no ****in around. I know this is lame but im going to hold of on the TREST stack for at least 4 months and see what i can accomplish without drugs. Im convinced i have more muscle to put on before i commit to AAS. When the stars align, and my training and nutrition is TRULY optimal, my metabolic pannel is truly optimal, I will run the stack. I will run the Olympus labs TR3ST, Havoc Epistane, m1A and androsterone. Once again, thanks guys this ****in helped a lot!
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Lame? Stating that your going to wait until your training and nutrition is totally optimal before running it is spot on brother (and makes a refreshing change to see someone taking this approach).

Hiring a coach is another smart move.

Based on your attitude and your current stats I get the feeling you’ll go far man. Good luck.
 
Thanks whiskey! I appreciate that. I feel like i wasted some people's time asking about this stack im holding off on, but i guess thats the point of this forum to educate. So even tho this is the anabolics section im gonna take this info, keep ot natty, and use it to get freak nasty when thr time comes. Maybe ill **** around with mk or something. Time will tell. Thanks guys
 
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