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Tbol + Test E cycle progress

Davy25

Davy25

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Hey yall,

I started a test e (250 mg twice a week) + tbol (40mg ed) cycle and im now at about 2.5 weeks in. I wanted to give a little insight for anybody debating on this cycle!

So far my bench has went from 245 x 1 to 245 x 7 *and tomorrow is chest day cant wait to see what it feels like tomorrow*. Deadlift has gone from 335 x 1 to 345 x 6. Squats went from 315 x 1 to 315 x 8.

Sex drive is pretty amazing but my testies have shrunk quite a bit to where they almost go away during sex. Starting my HCG dosing this Thursday to counteract.

No estro sides but still taking 6.25 to 12.5 mg exemistane EOD just in case. Im getting compliments on my phyqiue left and right and accusations of taking gear *which of course i deny lol*. This is my first pinning cycle i have ever done and 27g needle i dont feel a thing in my glutes, smooth as butter. PIP is a little rough while sitting down but just feels like a bruise.

Overall anybody who is above age 25 and has a little experience *perhaps a sarm cycle or two* i would definetly reccomend this cycle as i feel great, look great, and overall happy as a clam! Maybe others can share their experiences with this cycle but i just wanted to provide a insight as to my experience!
 
Great to read this bro. I’ve run a couple of oral cycles but have everything ready to start a test e and tbol cycle in September (got winny as a finisher). Can’t wait now lol
 
Awesome! I’ve wanted to run this cycle for awhile. This only makes me want to do it more.
 
That’s awesome man. I’m about to order some Test E and Tbol. Plan on running the Tbol 5-6 weeks. Only running the test at 150mg /week. Yes I’m aware that’s super low and not optimal. However, I have learned from previous experience that I am extremely sensitive to any form of AAS, DS, or PH. So because of my current work situation I have to be careful as to not get tested and subsequently fired.
 
Unless you are in the military. I can’t think of anyone that would test for steroids. That test is a lot more expensive than a normal recreational drug test.
 
soma said:
Unless you are in the military. I can’t think of anyone that would test for steroids. That test is a lot more expensive than a normal recreational drug test.
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Not military but in that same line. My agency has a history of testing anyone suspected of use. Yes it’s expensive but they will pay for it.
 
Tbl16 said:
Not military but in that same line. My agency has a history of testing anyone suspected of use. Yes it’s expensive but they will pay for it.
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What a bunch of as s holes
 
I draw with 20g and pin w/ 27g. I only pin in glutes, debating on running hcg and test in same injection to avoid pinning in stomach fat. Ive noticed warming up the oil works wonders as a lot of people mention.
 
Just a little update: today was my first hcg injection. Ordered some slin pins and decided to add 2 more injections a week into my belly fat instead of taking the risk of getting an abcess by taking test + hcg in one syringe and going IM.

Today was shoulder day and 90 lb dumbell shoulder press was a breeze *usually ill do 80 x 6*. Test is a wet compound, hence all the strength gains but i am almost tempted to increase my AI dose to dry out a little bit... curious if that would reduce my strength gains.
 
Davy25 said:
Just a little update: today was my first hcg injection. Ordered some slin pins and decided to add 2 more injections a week into my belly fat instead of taking the risk of getting an abcess by taking test + hcg in one syringe and going IM.

Today was shoulder day and 90 lb dumbell shoulder press was a breeze *usually ill do 80 x 6*. Test is a wet compound, hence all the strength gains but i am almost tempted to increase my AI dose to dry out a little bit... curious if that would reduce my strength gains.
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Most of my strength gains on this cycle have been from the tbol, not the test lol. I wouldn’t increase the ai unless necessary. Estrogen is essential for growth.
 
Alright guys, just had my first week 4 injection and damn is it getting difficult pinning now. Todays pin was as bad or worse than my first one i ever did. Kinda burned going in and i couldnt stabilize the needle and it kinda twisted in there. The IM glute PIP usually is still faintinly present by the time the following weeks injection time is up.

Any tips aside from starting to inject in thighs and shoulders? Do most people have more than 2 injection sites? I feel like my ass is getting hard from the injection sites and im debating on going sub q in my stomach *where my hcg injections are done*. Any reason not to do this? Might take away the pain on the glute sites for a bit.
 
I was in the exact same boat as you week before last 4 weeks two shots per week= 8 shots 4 per glute my ass felt like a dam Ham. Go delts left delt shot was smooth right delt no so smooth.. I used 25g 1.5 left about .5 the needle out...
 
TMloc said:
I was in the exact same boat as you week before last 4 weeks two shots per week= 8 shots 4 per glute my ass felt like a dam Ham. Go delts left delt shot was smooth right delt no so smooth.. I used 25g 1.5 left about .5 the needle out...
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Damn, 25g seems pretty big. Thats good to know im not the only one who cant take that ****. I started to get some leaking out of injection last pin and it bleed a tiny bit more than usual.

Im skeptical about going into shoulders but if its pretty standard to have at least 4 injection sites i kight have to cuz this stuff hurts now lol
 
Nahh some guys use 23g ,25g is pretty standard thoe..You mentioned you had some leaking out last injection are you leaving needle in an additional 20-30 secs after injection?
 
Subbed! Was thinking of running the same as my second cycle in November. Crazy strength gains by the way. Did you try injecting the oil more slowly yet? Or even heating it up to body-ish temperature and injecting slowly? I used to get PIP every shot when I started TRT but kind of ****ed around with the way I injected it until it mostly went away. I inject twice a week now too. I heat the oil with faucet water, and inject as slowly as I can tolerate into the sides of my mid-upper quads while focusing on keeping the needle as stable as possible. I get no pip 9/10 times or so, I'd guess. Might be the oil in your test causing it for all we know thou. I use 27 G 1 1/4 slin needle or a 25G 1 1.5 inch and notice no difference in PIP.

I seem to only get PIP it if I had a tense quad and also if I moved the needle around to much during the injection (usually when rushing it.) Or if I accidentally inject it to fast, which is much easier to do when it is heated since it is more viscous.
 
25g is a great size imo. 27g would take too long for my oil to travel through personally. I personally just pin glutes, but it would be better to rotate with delts as well. I was cruising months prior to running 600mg, and once I bumped to 300mg twice a week the pip was fairly bad at first, but it should get better after a few weeks.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
25g is a great size imo. 27g would take too long for my oil to travel through personally. I personally just pin glutes, but it would be better to rotate with delts as well. I was cruising months prior to running 600mg, and once I bumped to 300mg twice a week the pip was fairly bad at first, but it should get better after a few weeks.
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So you pin twice a week and only use 2 injection sites? Thats what im doing now and dang is it rough.
 
I use a 23g in the glutes 2x a week and never had any problems. If theres any pip it usually only lasts a day for me
 
Man, I need the HCG, but it really screwed with my cycle regarding the estrogen. Had the AI dialed in and then bam, noticed some swelling tissue. Nuked it, but really turned me off to HCG, but I want the kids someday so I should probably start usage again.

All in all, Im glad everything is better for you in every way mate. Thats how it was/still is for me.
 
Davy25 said:
So you pin twice a week and only use 2 injection sites? Thats what im doing now and dang is it rough.
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Yea the first 5 weeks or so the pip was definitely noticeable; I even had a lump in one of my glutes that gave me pip for nearly a week. But my body has adapted to it. It would be better to go with 4 sites though to minimize scar tissue.
 
Yea it would not hurt to give the glutes good old rest..I pinned back to glutes today after hitting delts a week ,usually couple hrs afterwards I can tell if its gonna f wit me for a few days but after a couple hrs nothing doesn't even feel like I pinned today..
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Yea the first 5 weeks or so the pip was definitely noticeable; I even had a lump in one of my glutes that gave me pip for nearly a week. But my body has adapted to it. It would be better to go with 4 sites though to minimize scar tissue.
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Crazy it goes so easy for you, i get a lump every single time. Last week thursdays got a tiny bruise and this weeks is a little red *firs time thats happeneded*. Im gonna go sub q in my belly this week and see how that goes.
 
On a positive note, yesterday deadlift has gone from 335 x 1RM to 375 1RM in just under a month. Im blown away and going to try to get 405 by July 4.

Bench went from about 245 x 1 to 255 x 10, going to try for 275 this upcoming Monday. Physique has noticed considerable lean muscle gains but the strength gains are much more noticable than the physique ones.
 
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