Unanswered Tbol solo cycle - worth it?

[blongo804]

Hey everyone,

I'm sure this has been beaten to death, but I'd like to hear the most recent opinions on this subject.

Is it worth running Tbol solo, for say, 7-8 weeks? I think i'd be fine taking it that long, as I did take DMZ/Dermatrest right to the 7 week mark and felt "fine" the whole time.. didn't really want to stop actually lol.

I'm mostly looking to "shred" down at this point and get to a better starting place for the Fall/Winter bulk up. I don't expect tbol to help cut down fat, but I'm thinking it'd help put my calories to best use while I'm in a deficit.

Thoughts? Anything better to run solo? I've run DMZ solo and DMZ with Dermatrest in the past. Both treated me well, especially DMZ/Dermatrest.

 

[Scottfalcon]

I would save tbol for bulking personally. If you want something to shred solo, I've done anavar solo and had a great 8 week run even though I'm sure other people would say it has to be run with test. I had zero lethargy or sides other than some increased acne and oily skin. I havent run it but it looks like alot of people are liking 3ad for shredding as well, but I dont know much about it. I've used transdermal 11kt many times and always had good success with it, leaning out and looking full.. no major strength or mass gains with it but definite leaning and muscle retention.

 

[Mathb33]

I guess you can yes. You just shouldn’t expect TOO much out of that cycle tho. Still better than a dbol only cycle

 

[blongo804]

I would save tbol for bulking personally. If you want something to shred solo, I've done anavar solo and had a great 8 week run even though I'm sure other people would say it has to be run with test. I had zero lethargy or sides other than some increased acne and oily skin. I havent run it but it looks like alot of people are liking 3ad for shredding as well, but I dont know much about it. I've used transdermal 11kt many times and always had good success with it, leaning out and looking full.. no major strength or mass gains with it but definite leaning and muscle retention.

I was thinking anavar too. It just seems tough to find a good/trustworthy source for it. I'll look a little harder.

I've been trying to keep up on the 3AD users to see what they experience. I'll keep watching that one.

Haven't read much on TD 11kt but i'll also look into that. Thanks for your thoughts!

I guess you can yes. You just shouldn’t expect TOO much out of that cycle tho. Still better than a dbol only cycle

Yeah that's what I'm worried about is that I wouldn't get much out of the cycle. Definitely want a quality cycle.

Off to more researching!

 

[Mathb33]

If you’re dead set on oral only and want good gains you should into dmz or msten? M1A too. It’s just gotta know anything that’s strong enough to build a lot of mass in a short amount of time will make you feel a bit like ****, especially without test. If your goal is to shed some fat and get leaner I would really consider msten. This **** is magical for building muscle but it’s also fucking magical in a small calorie deficit it’ll completly change you. Epistane would be great too

 

[BarryScott]

Just curious, but it's there some reason you're not considering epistane and trendione (or diendione) for cutting?

 

[blongo804]

If you’re dead set on oral only and want good gains you should into dmz or msten? M1A too. It’s just gotta know anything that’s strong enough to build a lot of mass in a short amount of time will make you feel a bit like ****, especially without test. If your goal is to shed some fat and get leaner I would really consider msten. This **** is magical for building muscle but it’s also fucking magical in a small calorie deficit it’ll completly change you. Epistane would be great too

DMZ blew me up pretty good but then I deflated afterward lol. Now that you mention Msten.. I do have enough on hand to run a solid cycle. I also have some epistane I believe, but maybe only 4 weeks worth. Maybe i'll give Msten a shot!

Just curious, but it's there some reason you're not considering epistane and trendione (or diendione) for cutting?

For epistane, I'm kind of afraid of the "hurting joints"/dry-out effect, but I'm sure it's livable. I do have about 4 weeks worth on hand I believe.

As for trendione/diendione, I honestly haven't looked into either one really. I'll get to researching. Thanks for the suggestions!