I have heard good things at WWBB, Outlaw, & SSB which is why I'll use it on my thighs after my cycle and post cycle therapy. BTW, if Pat Arnold uses it in Liposolv and Targex was around before Liposolv then I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it works. As with all other topicals, they aren't magic so don't expect to go from 20% bf to pre-contest abs after one bottle