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Tamoxifen (liq.) for H-drol?

jherman08

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All right im getting pretty sick of this.
I can research on AM for days and have my mind made
up 110% then as soon as i go to research on a different board
its the 110% complete opposite opinions.

I just need straight forward opinions
I plan on running hdrol for 7 weeks.
Hitting 100mg my final week

planned on running the equivalent of cycle assist
in bulk form (all seperate powders) with the hdrol.

For pct i planned on using DTH, Inhibit-e, pct assist, and lean xtreme.

Liquid tamoxifen is a fraction of the cost of all these so why
would i bother spending all this extra money when i can get one
single serm that works better than the combined otc pct stack?

I swear on Anabolic minds people would guarantee their left nut
no serm is needed for an hdrol cycle.

On forum #2 people would guarantee their right nut that a serm is
definitely needed for an hdrol cycle.

So what is it? Should i just get tamoxifen? Or the otc pct?

any help is appreciated.
 
I don't think you would need it......but, it's something good to have anyway. Anything can happen in 7 weeks. Do you want find out the hard way? Better to have it on standby IMO.
 
I wouldnt use Nolva or Clomid if I was you by the way. You do need a SERM if you get shutdown badly and should have one on hand.

im going to copy and paste something someone else said on another forum since I cant post the link, the info should help you out.(pasting it on the post after this one)

You wanna know something funny about the "swear on my left nut" thing you just said. I did a 6 week H-drol cycle, first and only cycle I've ever done. I got shutdown and had clomid and Nolva for PCT. Til this day, my left nut sometimes goes to the size of a peanut and my right nut gets real big... it's because of an injury I had from when me and my friends would punch eachother in the balls rofl, well, one of my "friends" really didnt like me and took that game to another level, we were like 12-13... its that thing where u lightly tag someone in the balls, this kid was a friend of one of my friends and straight came down on me as hard as he could when he was sitting behind my seat in a van. I didn't make a sound but i had a sharp pain there for years off and on. I obviously turned on fine and my gf used to tell me(before my cycle) that my balls were huge, dont think shes said that after the cycle though, except that everything else on my body is huge :)

When I use testofen(feenugeek), both of my testicles get full and fine(my testicles have always been fine even after that injury, but getting shut down, I can tell my left testicle didnt recover as well and thats my reason for it, but like I said my right testicle got HUGE whenever my left one would be really small. On a normal day, its not the same size as it was before I did a cycle).

I'm about to do another H-drol cycle starting next week but only 4weeks this time. If I was you, I would do a 4-5 week max cycle. The longer, the more damage. Do a shorter cycle than 7 weeks please, I did it for 6 weeks because I didn't have the PCT stuff on hand and I read 6 weeks was fine. Also, this cycle was SICK in terms of gains(30-40pounds muscle and fat), everyone including my family and buddies knew I was on something and I didnt like it. Even big black bodybuilder bouncers at clubs would call me "Big Man" and Boss. I could barely fit into any of my clothes and I mean barely, i was 225 and started at 180-190. I was drinking weightgainer shakes as protien shakes, eating tons of stuff.

I know my reply is not on point, but, if theres one point I would suggest to you is this.

DONT DO A 7 WEEK CYCLE, DO 2 SEPARATE CYCLES. Let your body heal, get bloodwork, then do another cycle. If you wanna do a cycle like that then just do test-e or something, you can get it from places on the net easy and I promise a 10-12week cycle of that would be way safer than a 7week cycle of any methyl PH.

I can't believe all these people do these crazy PH cycles, like stacking them and stuff. I bought all 3, P-Plex, M-Drol, and H-drol. I wanted to bulk so P-Plex was my first choice until I read a post from the guy who invented it saying its true it enlarges your heart but your heart goes back to normal size after a year...scratch that one off the list. M-Drol was the harshest of the 3 and had supposedly the worst sides but best strength gains etc. H-Drol was the mildest and honestly, while I was ON CYCLE, I didnt notice 1 bad side effect until I was off it. Thats why I'm doing it again, I lost my libido(I got shutdown) but no acne, no mood swings, felt normal. It was hard to sleep at night sometimes though, because I would train mainly at night I think. Sidenote: When I would be on my bed sleeping after I took a shake or something, the whole bed would shake to each pounding pulse of my heart.

Another bad side effect was stretch marks, as you can imagine by the gains I had, my biceps/shoulder area still have bad marks that i try to take care of ED, and my love handle area marks are gone now. Got this badass creme that I'm going to be using while on my next cycle.

lol this is my first post and look when I joined, all I did was read because all the questions you have are already answered throughout this and other forums, you're not going to get a better answer from a question YOU post than from the exact question people have answered 1,000 times on this and other boards.

Theres different answers, different and very knowledgeable people have posted answers to your question a 1,000 times and they are not going to view and reply to this thread, you have to find their answer. I dont know if anything I just said made sense at the end but whatever.
 
Thanks for the replies, ADDAM how did you know you were "shutdown"? I have class
at 6:40 in the morning and workout around 8:30 to 12:30 with my buddy and
there are definitely times where i would use the term feeling shutdown.
 
I knew I was shut down because my testicles were atrophying, getting a lot smaller. This is when you're sterile also. This is my understanding of what the term shutdown means, I could definitely be wrong but I doubt it.

This happens to everyone that gets shutdown on cycle, I was so worried at the time but read that it happens and you will recover aka the boys get back to full size and you are no longer sterile.
 
not to thread jack but how do you take tamoxifen liquid and how much do you take i just got some and really thought it was going to be a pill
 
You're fine. Run your H 6 weeks to get the max out of it, add a 7th if you are really feeling it. Just listen to your body. Don't let people scare you. Take bits and pieces of what everyone says and form your own personal logic. Eat good, train hard and sleep long. Don't over complicate things either. The more products you add to your pct, the more problems may arise. For H, clomid and DTP works for me. Simple and sweet. Enjoy.
 
not to thread jack but how do you take tamoxifen liquid and how much do you take i just got some and really thought it was going to be a pill

should be listed on the bottle or website, usually with a medicine dropper
and tapered down. Last example i seen for hdrol pct was 40/40/20/20
 
should be listed on the bottle or website, usually with a medicine dropper
and tapered down. Last example i seen for hdrol pct was 40/40/20/20

not on bottle or site (20mg/ml 60ml) is all it says but you cant take 20mg of a liquid and 60ml is the whole bottle so im a little confused how much are you planing on taking
 
not on bottle or site (20mg/ml 60ml) is all it says but you cant take 20mg of a liquid and 60ml is the whole bottle so im a little confused how much are you planing on taking

This means you have 20mg of tamoxifen per Ml. (20mg/60ml= 60 servings of tamoxifen at 20mg)

if you did 40/30/20/20 this means
4ml a day for a week
then 3ml a day for a week
then 2ml a day for the last two weeks.
 
This means you have 20mg of tamoxifen per Ml. (20mg/60ml= 60 servings of tamoxifen at 20mg)

if you did 40/30/20/20 this means
4ml a day for a week
then 3ml a day for a week
then 2ml a day for the last two weeks.

thanks for the info i guess now i just need to get a ml measure
 
thanks for the info i guess now i just need to get a ml measure

Go to CVS and get an oral syringe. Make sure it's narrow enough to fit in the vial though, which will also make measuring small amounts (1-4ml) easier. Also, make sure you shake the vial well before each dose because the tamoxifen settles out of suspension.
 
This means you have 20mg of tamoxifen per Ml. (20mg/60ml= 60 servings of tamoxifen at 20mg)

if you did 40/30/20/20 this means
4ml a day for a week
then 3ml a day for a week
then 2ml a day for the last two weeks.

Gotta disagree, Brother. That dosing protocol above would be for 10mg/ml.

@ 20mg/ml, a 40/30/20/20 protocol would be:

40mg=2ml per day for a week
30mg=1.5ml per day for a week
20mg=1ml per day for two weeks

Cheers, B
 
Gotta disagree, Brother. That dosing protocol above would be for 10mg/ml.

@ 20mg/ml, a 40/30/20/20 protocol would be:

40mg=2ml per day for a week
30mg=1.5ml per day for a week
20mg=1ml per day for two weeks

Cheers, B

Good catch, you know what youre talking about
 
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