Taking suggestions for a cycle :)

uniifirex

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basically the title.

suggestions for a good stack, prefer nothing more than 750mg test though.

disregarding training time/experience

all hypothetical i have a few friends who are asking about a good stack




shoot some input guys!
 
350-500mg test (if its your first cycle you can run 350 and still see good results, srs, people overdose test a lot even on their first cycle)
30-45mg dbol
Test weeks 1-12 or 1-16 if youd like
Dbol wks 1-4 or 1-6, whatever youd prefer
adex as you need it .5mg will probably be needed since dbol+test cause alot of estro build up, Either EOD or E3D, all depends on you.
20/20/20/10 nolva 100/50/50/50 clomid for PCT.

Cant go wrong with that as first cycle.
 
looking for stacking non orals, should have been more specific


ex, EQ and test, tren and test ect.
 
not a specific cycle set, just NOT the first one.

its not for me, just all around taking in suggestions for friends/family
 
uniifirex said:
BUMP, man cycle info bearly gets used :(
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I gave you 1...if disregarding cycle experience then obviously 600test, 300 tren and like 300 deca would be sick, for 12-14 weeks, then cruising @ 150 mast 100 test into a blast of test/tren/mast.
 
don't know much about mast...nor do any of my pals...hmm. sounds interesting i was actually looking into blasting and cruising myself....ill look into something that sounds perfect thanks!
 
uniifirex said:
don't know much about mast...nor do any of my pals...hmm. sounds interesting i was actually looking into blasting and cruising myself....ill look into something that sounds perfect thanks!
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Its a more androgenic drug, relatively side free, has anti-e properties to it and it will help you harden up a lot, it isnt a greater bulker but sure it wouldnt hurt if youre bulking.
 
that sounds like 16-20 weeks of fun dr ;)

ManBeast
 
I'd hate you if I was the jealous type :D
 
between test/eq or test/tren.....ups and downs of both? researching along side just looking for personal usage or comments
 
uniifirex said:
between test/eq or test/tren.....ups and downs of both? researching along side just looking for personal usage or comments
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Test and tren will overall give you more mass and strength gains, while helping you lean out a bit. Tren is more harsh than EQ, some experience more mental sides, some more physical sides.
Test and EQ- EQ will provide lean gains while increasing vascularity and muscular endurance. Main problem with EQ is BP problems.

test+EQ is overall considered a "safer" cycle.
 
EQ also takes a lot longer to "feel" as it has a very long ester (requiring a longer cycle), and just seems to kick in slow for most even with a frontload.

I'd rather anyone's first run with tren (or deca for that matter) be with their short ester versions in case their body reacts poorly to them.

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
EQ also takes a lot longer to "feel" as it has a very long ester (requiring a longer cycle), and just seems to kick in slow for most even with a frontload.

I'd rather anyone's first run with tren (or deca for that matter) be with their short ester versions in case their body reacts poorly to them.

ManBeast
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I agree. I personally favor test/tren.
 
acetate needs to be pinned every other day, 100mg to start and up to 150mg.

ManBeast
 
would it be run just as long as e? as i know its a short ester and needs to be pinned eod like prop which i myself have experience with as well as my others
 
considering tren has to be higher than test...500 test 600 tren would by ideal would it not? Or does this strip away as it being tren ace?
 
i don't suggest 150mg/eod for a noob, but it isn't unheard of. 100eod is what I did my first run with tren on top of about 400mg/week test and it was glorious.
 
sounds interesting needless to say, still must do myself a fare share of research beforehand so i can inform my mates. thanks for all your insight fellas
 
Sorry if I'm jacking thread but if running test/tren. What would you need for potential sides besides the obvious AI for estrogen. Would hcg at 500iu 2x a week be smart for a 12-16 week run to keep you primed for pct? I would think so but how would you dose it?
 
caber or parami for progestin induced sides
 
it does its job if you get it legit... there is also caber if you can get it legit
 
Running winny or another injectable that will provide a good DHT base can eliminate the possibility of the progesterone sides, therefore u wouldn't need to use caber, but i'd have some on hand just in case.
 
How would you dose Winny to set a dht base say in a 16 week cycle? With test e at 400mg and tren at 100-150mg eod (is that right). Sorry about questions just trying to learn as much as I can.
 
DangerDave said:
How would you dose Winny to set a dht base say in a 16 week cycle? With test e at 400mg and tren at 100-150mg eod (is that right). Sorry about questions just trying to learn as much as I can.
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Well for a 16 week cycle u can't use winny that long. I'd get some Mast.
 
I figured you couldn't but what if you ran it for the last few weeks? Say 4 weeks from wk12-16? Will it even be worth it? I want to run a cycle end of summer so I am asking questions now..

mast will help harden up correct? I usually see it stacked so guessing since its not run single it doesn't have mass building properties and requires a test base? Am I right?
 
just get your hands on some prami from a research chem site and your gtg, just do some research on the web of what sites have gtg ones and bunk ones and you should be set, its all legitimacy and trusting others words
 
DangerDave said:
I figured you couldn't but what if you ran it for the last few weeks? Say 4 weeks from wk12-16? Will it even be worth it? I want to run a cycle end of summer so I am asking questions now..

mast will help harden up correct? I usually see it stacked so guessing since its not run single it doesn't have mass building properties and requires a test base? Am I right?
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Mast will build muscle bro. Yeah its a great stack with test and tren. Yeah get some prami or caber though just in case.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Mast will build muscle bro. Yeah its a great stack with test and tren. Yeah get some prami or caber though just in case.
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Cool Thanks for the info. What is Mast normal dosage when stacked with test and maybe tren?
 
Cool so let me make sure I got all that right. Can't run winny on a 16weeker but you would run mast. Cycle would look like 400mg every week of test e and tren e or acetate with mast at 400. And you would run it 16 weeks with hcg to keep primed. Pct would be clomid and nolva. Caber and armidex on hand during cycle for sides? Did I miss anything?

I am just sure I am learning this correctly. Thanks for the info still new to the whole injectable thing. I would like to run this kind of cycle down the road as a 2nd or 3rd run.
 
DangerDave said:
Cool so let me make sure I got all that right. Can't run winny on a 16weeker but you would run mast. Cycle would look like 400mg every week of test e and tren e or acetate with mast at 400. And you would run it 16 weeks with hcg to keep primed. Pct would be clomid and nolva. Caber and armidex on hand during cycle for sides? Did I miss anything?

I am just sure I am learning this correctly. Thanks for the info still new to the whole injectable thing. I would like to run this kind of cycle down the road as a 2nd or 3rd run.
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Yeah everything looks good. Ditch the nolva though, its no good for a 19nor.
 
I would just run AI on a basis, just because you dont feel anything, you should be using it to keep you at a good baseline and not too high up, although estro. is needed to build, i'd still keep a low dose EoD such as .125 which is normally what i personally run.
 
Oh ok I just stumbled across that about nolva and 19nors. Thanks

uniifirex said:
I would just run AI on a basis, just because you dont feel anything, you should be using it to keep you at a good baseline and not too high up, although estro. is needed to build, i'd still keep a low dose EoD such as .125 which is normally what i personally run.
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What do you run for your AI? Since most come in 1mg pills do you just break them up?
 
^^^^ Just like he said, but i also dont do pills since its hard to dose :> never had a problem with my AI liquids, but the purpose isnt just for sides, in general, because after your cycle you can have a wicked rebound.
 
the mast can get pretty expensive if you run it at 400-600, how is it at 2-300?
 
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