Take R andro alone.. ?


Oliver Kween said:
Why not try REBIRTH ?

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If you start like a 1st user ( for not say beginner), may be it's good to use some SERM-like. Dont hit the boss stage right away.

After i'm not sur but DERMACINE is good too. But best ask to @Smont About Dermacrine for PCT
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Hi

It's a good idea the rebirth looks very interesting too, especially since I want a PCT with natural products.

I add it to my list of PCT in this case!

Thank you sir
 
You're welcome :)

To be honest with you, I'm a beginner too. This here on AnabolicMinds what learn a lot and it prevents me from making mistakes.

I say it often. I use PH or Boosters to optimize a certain build for the fight. Neither too natty nor too big.
I aim for strength, impact and speed. But hey, that's another story.

On the other hand, I remain attentive to your return to R-Andro. I am curious and eager to use it in a next cycle.

Respect :) .. !
 
Sustain Alpha should be perfect for this - you're not running it at an aggressive dose, or for an extended period of time.
 
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I Have Sustain, but, does it start to show his effects after 1 week? Is it the same for you?

I wonder if 4-andro Oral + Sustain is a good idea ? I have the impression that 1-testo ( oral ) is missing in it...

Ty
 
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Oliver Kween said:
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I Have Sustain, but, does it start to show its effects after 1 week? Is it the same for you?

Does it start to show its effects after 1 week? It's the same for you

I wonder if 4-andro + sustain is a good idea ? I have the impression that 1-testo is missing in it...

Ty
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I would generally recommend saving the sustain for PCT, as stacking with 4-andro would limit the conversion of 4-DHEA to estrogen...you probably want some estrogen conversion.
 
Yes you right,

I would like etablish an balance between Test et Estro.

I will stock Sustain for Pct Later. So May be Dermacrine is best appropriate. Or Viron

Too much 4-Ando could make the cycle annoying.

Especially if not stacked with 1-andro.
That's why I like ANAVAR from HTC, only regret is that it has PPE.

I don't want to take multiple takes. I am looking for a PH complex just with 4-ANDro + 1-Aando. that I could follow with VIRON? for example.
 
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Oliver Kween said:
You're welcome :)

To be honest with you, I'm a beginner too. This here on AnabolicMinds what learn a lot and it prevents me from making mistakes.

I say it often. I use PH or Boosters to optimize a certain build for the fight. Neither too natty nor too big.
I aim for strength, impact and speed. But hey, that's another story.

On the other hand, I remain attentive to your return to R-Andro. I am curious and eager to use it in a next cycle.

Respect :) .. !
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Good then...

-I took BLR rebirth, 2 BOTTLES for 8 weeks natural SERM...

- I took Viron BLR, 2 bottles, for 8 weeks...

- I took sustain alpha. For 1 month.


Cycle... 4 weeks of R andro. 50mg... Very low dose for sure... But it's just to increase my Dht levels for health issues... I wouldn't want to exceed the dht standards...

8 weeks of PCT...
- REBIRTH BLR
-VIRON BLR
- SUSTAIN ALPHA.


I didn't take AI because R andro doesn't turn into estrogen.

Then the increase in DHT should lower my estro levels anyway.

Sustain alpha, can also lower estro levels.

REBIRTH, can also lower estro levels...

I'll let you know, even if my cycle is much too light for some here.

It might still be of interest to some.

I would do a blood test, before starting, and after finishing my 4 week
course of R andro.

To see how much my dht has increased...
 
I have my FSH which is 3.... For a 21 year old, it's blah...

My left testicle has decreased in volume for 2 years now, and I ejaculate much less than before...

REBIRTH BLR, had increased LH and FSH values, to a member here named vujade.
And yet vujade, was coming out of a very very supresive cycle.... Moreover, his cycle lasted 18 weeks.... Wtf!!

In addition, vujade had taken snags before and after... So very reliable...

Honestly, I've read a lot about REBIRTH BLR and VIRON BLR.

And I have huge respect for Brundel....

BLR is my last chance, and this dht cream is my last chance...
 
some things worth noting -

1) lowering estrogen will kill your libido too...you need estrogen.

2) DHT does not lower estrogen, but competes with estrogen at the receptor site...blocking some of the impacts of estrogen.
 
delsolrob said:
some things worth noting -

1) lowering estrogen will kill your libido too...you need estrogen.

2) DHT does not lower estrogen, but competes with estrogen at the receptor site...blocking some of the impacts of estrogen.
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Yes I know that I need estrogen for libido.

But the increase in dht should definitely help balance my estrogen.

Thanks for the details bro
 
Prohormone said:
I have my FSH which is 3.... For a 21 year old, it's blah...

My left testicle has decreased in volume for 2 years now, and I ejaculate much less than before...

REBIRTH BLR, had increased LH and FSH values, to a member here named vujade.
And yet vujade, was coming out of a very very supresive cycle.... Moreover, his cycle lasted 18 weeks.... Wtf!!

In addition, vujade had taken snags before and after... So very reliable...

Honestly, I've read a lot about REBIRTH BLR and VIRON BLR.

And I have huge respect for Brundel....

BLR is my last chance, and this dht cream is my last chance...
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These are not your last chances, these are just part of the journey to recovery and exploration of the options available for you. it will be up to you to experiment with doses to see what works best for you. I do wish you would have tried ultra hard, as it offers 2 mechanisms for increasing DHT and a combination of the two neurosteroids to offer synergistic benefit
 
delsolrob said:
These are not your last chances, these are just part of the journey to recovery and exploration of the options available for you. it will be up to you to experiment with doses to see what works best for you. I do wish you would have tried ultra hard, as it offers 2 mechanisms for increasing DHT and a combination of the two neurosteroids to offer synergistic benefit
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Thanks for your message bro.

Worse cases than me, got away with it, so I'm holding out hope

I can't wait to start my cycle.

Unfortunately, I live very far away, so the delivery will take a lot of time...


Yes, you're probably right, but I've never used a prohormone, so I was afraid of going too hard from the start...

I prefer a solo cycle to start...

Thanks bro.
 
delsolrob said:
some things worth noting -

1) lowering estrogen will kill your libido too...you need estrogen.

2) DHT does not lower estrogen, but competes with estrogen at the receptor site...blocking some of the impacts of estrogen.
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You are teaching me something here!
I was convinced that DHt crushed the Estro. In this case will the result be the same? If more space for the estro, it will be harmless and also leads to a loss of libido?
I also understand that it is therefore important not to use pr example of arimistane! after the Cycle R andro!

@Prohormone
It's a very good choice for your products! Even if I think there are a lot of them, but you're playing it safe, that's good!

The doses you take are low on R andro, I plan to do the same. What worries me is the high DHT in the sense that there will be a loss of Estro... I wonder if we can accompany R andro's cycle with an estro sustainer...


Maybe I'm talking nonsense, but I wanted to support this cycle with Dermacrine which contains DHEA but it might not be a good idea....( Invalid Link Removed ) .If I understand correctly. + DHEA would increase the production of DHT and therefore increases the risk of blocking Estro..
 
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On the contrary, dht will bring your estro back to good values.

Little dht-> increased estro-> increased prolactin...

Dht high -> Little estro but in the values...

After that it's theoretical, but in many studies the Dht has proven itself...
 
Al light all right ! 👐

I'm trying to digest this to have a clean cycle :)

I am researching DHT and or with DHEA and I find interesting things
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Has anyone done blood work after r-andro or epiandro and seen if it effects hemoglobin and hematocrit to any appreciable degree?
 
Lumalux said:
Yeah, I'm not willing to throw what is basically a functioning HPTA into chaos just to make the hair grow. Instead I think I am going to try natty non-suppressive routes. I've used one tube of the Ultra-Epi. I've grown body hair since then but it's probably due to the Minoxidil (which works really well for a lot of guys).
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Can you elaborate on your minoxidil use? Oral or topical? What dose, frequency? How do you know you’ve grown more body hair?
 
Nequals1 said:
Can you elaborate on your minoxidil use? Oral or topical? What dose, frequency? How do you know you’ve grown more body hair?
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I started out applying it topically to just my legs to see if it would make them more hairy and did that for about one year. If it did anything, the results were modest at best and it's a PITA to keep doing it. I started taking Minoxidil orally about 5-10 mg a day about a year ago and now I have hair growing on my shoulders, chest, all over my back, down my biceps and forearms and hands, stomach, and legs. My head hair, beard and eyebrows are thicker, too. I know most guys would think this is a terrible result, but there are a lot of guys just like me that want the virilization of having more body hair. I've met a lot of guys on Reddit who are taking Minoxidil solely for this purpose. It's no different than wanting more hair on your head. I am happy with how things are progressing and hope that it continues to thicken up. I am trying to manipulate hormone levels to cause the process to proceed faster. If I can cause more to grow by raising T or DHT, I will do that.
 
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