T-drive?

From what I've read by other people's posts on various boards, it's a really good product. Part of alot of people's PCT programs, can't say anything from personal experience though.
 
Anyone here use it. I just ordered 2 bottles so I'll keep you posted. Just and little fyi, I compared prices and even with getting it in bulk at bulk nutrition you pay the same price. I ordered from island because their omega creatine ethyl thunder was a decent price too. BTW could you guys carry bulk gycerol. So far only custom has it ( I think).
 
wideguy said:
Anyone here use it. I just ordered 2 bottles so I'll keep you posted. Just and little fyi, I compared prices and even with getting it in bulk at bulk nutrition you pay the same price. I ordered from island because their omega creatine ethyl thunder was a decent price too. BTW could you guys carry bulk gycerol. So far only custom has it ( I think).
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We are looking at carrying bulk products right now. I will keep you posted.
 
Is this because of what happened with Juggernaut in general, or do you know if this is going to become a trend with other ATD products?

Thanks
 
Mass_69 said:
Is this because of what happened with Juggernaut in general, or do you know if this is going to become a trend with other ATD products?

Thanks
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Once I am out of T-drive there is no more to buy. THis is from a sale a while back. ATD might be part of the ban. AX has discontinued production of Rebound, but I don't know if DS has.
 
biggunther said:
AX has discontinued production of Rebound, but I don't know if DS has.
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Crap, I thought DS stopped, and licensed it to AX

:jaw:

OK, I'll stop doing that, now.
 
Is lowered libido common on atd?
I ran 3 caps a day for 2 weeks and now I'm down to 2. I'm not dead, but I'm not exactly getting serious wood either. I wake up with morning wood at least 3-5 days a week and definitely pop wood every, as I roll over on it at some point. Still I'm kinda wondering if it's just that I ran a really long cycle and forgot what it was like to be mortal again, or if it's the atd?

I'm also using alpha male, fenugreek, zma, pgh, and igf-1 (just started that like 4 days ago).
 
wideguy said:
Is lowered libido common on atd?
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For whatever this is worth, I'm doing my second cycle of Ergomax. I'm 2 weeks in, and my libido is through the roof at this point. I'm not taking anything else. The reason I find this interesting is that during my first cycle of Ergomax this summer, I started dosing Gaspari's Novedex XT about one week into the cycle, when my libido was starting to get raised by the Ergomax. My libido was WAY down shortly after I started taking the Novedex XT. I had attributed the decreased libido to the Ergomax, not the ATD, partially because I got such a great deal on the Novedex on Ebay that I figured it was probably bogus. However, I'm now beginning to think that the ATD was the killer.

The kicker is that I had awesome gains in size and strength, as well as wicked pumps, stacking the two together, but now that I'm just running the Ergomax, I'm seeing greatly decreased results (some small strength gains, little body composition change, minor pumps), and am somewhat disappointed (except for the libido part.) My two cents.
 
I have read on the boards that ATD will lower libido due to its affinity to attach to the androgen receptors, this actually blocking other androgens such as testosterone.

OTOH, I have read (and ALR has claimed) that ATD is site specific in binding to the AR, and its affinity is for the ARs at the hypothalamous. This is why there is no androgen negative feedback, and testosterone levels will continue to rise as ATD, being an AI, lowers estrogen. The only studies I have seen confirming this were done in quail, for what that's worth.

My experience has been a noticeable decrease in libido when taking ATD, even at 25-50 mgs/day.
 
ATD will lower libido. if not on pct lower your dose to 1 cap at night. when you come off the atd your libido should sky rocket.
 
Thanks bro. I've been off the atd for awhile now and tappered of like you said (and I was going to do). I'm really astounded at how out of touch I was with my scrotal size??? They're way bigger now. On top of that I've been running fenotest and my libido is way up plus I'm dropping jizz loads that require mops instead of tissues! Good stuff.
 
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