Sweetlou's training log

3/14/14-DE Bench
DE Floor Press w/ Chains
165+40lbs chainx8x3
Close Grip Incline Press w/ Shoulder Saver
185x5
215x5
225x5 PR
Pull-ups Various Grips
10,8,8,6,6
Wide Grip Upright Rows/Mini Band Upright Rows
65x10/12x3 sets
Light Band Overhead Ext
50 total reps
Notes: Good day today. Was fast and intense.
 
3/15/14-me deadlift
Raw conventional deadlift off a 1 inch.deficit
455x1
475x1 pr
495x1 pr
505x0,1 pr
Ghrs
Bwx10,8,8,6
Unilateral leg press
90x12,12
Side bends/leg raises
35x10/bwx15
50x10/bwx15
60x10/bwx15
Conditioning: 4 full laps sprinting with the prowler high handles with 50lbs on it.
Notes:brutal me day. Happy for a 50lbs pr.
 
3/17/14-me bench
Bench with fat football bar comp grip width
275x1
295x1
315x1
Db oh press
70x8
80x7
Db floor press
65x8,8
Seated medium grip cable row
165x8
195x8
210X8
225x8 pr
165x12
Close grip fat football bar jm press/Db curls
95x10/30x10 3 sets
Unilateral micro band facepulls
15,15,15
Notes:good day. The 315 felt like it was going to crush me but it moved fast. Maxed out the cable row.stack at obb also on rows. So back is getting stronger!
 
Haha funny on doing the stack with rows. Thankfully ours still has a bit of room left to accommodate me as I develop more strength before I have to add plates on the pin.

Some nice sets of prs you've been hitting.
 
Torobestia said:
Haha funny on doing the stack with rows. Thankfully ours still has a bit of room left to accommodate me as I develop more strength before I have to add plates on the pin.

Some nice sets of prs you've been hitting.
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Haha yea. It was just a side goal for fun for me. Obb has a special made pin that was built to add plates to lol. Thanks man. I feel like training this past year has been going good consistently!
 
3/19/14-ME Lower
Raw Squat to depth with the SSB and knee wraps
380x1
420x1
430x1
240x3,3 these are paused for a 3 count in the whole each rep.
Cambered Bar GMs
205x5
225x5 PR
235x5 PR
255x5 PR
Step Ups
bwx8
40lbs dbsx8,8
Abs Wheel
8,5,5,5
Conditioning: 3 full laps with the prowler high handles, 90lbs on prowler.
Notes: Very happy with the ssb squats today, My CNS is still ramped up from the gear as anything under 500 feels easy unrack and move half way up. In the whole is a completely different story. Making some changes to my lower body training to get more squat/deadlift volume. This week is my last week of my 3-4 week assistance rotation so I gave the GMS all I had, those killed me. Conditioning is getting much easier. Getting better at using knee wraps also. Hoping to break the 500s raw with squatting with wraps before jumping back into my gear.
 
3/21/14-DE Bench
DE Bench w/ Chains
165+40lbsx8x3
Comp Grip Incline Bench w/ Shoulder Saver
185x5,5,5
Pull-ups, various grips
10,8,8,6,6
Side Raises/DB Curls
15/25x15/10 3 sets

3/22/14-DE Lower
Squat
225x3x3
275x1
335x1
425x1 in ace briefs, got a new pair of squat shoes so I wanted to test them just a little.
DE Pulls sumo/conv
275+50lbs chainx8x1
Barbell Shrugs/GHRs/Side Bends
315x8/bwx15/45x12 2 sets

3/24/14-ME Bench
Reverse Light Band Bench
275x3
315x3
335x3, took off about 60lbs at bottom not much at the top.
DB Complex
oh-60x10
flat-60x10
incline-60x10
decline-60x10
Kroc Rows
100x25 each arm
Jm Press/Pullapart Complex
135x10/10 each way
135x10/10 each way
135x10/10 overhand and underhand only
Notes: Left shoulder is bothering me some. So I called it there on bench today, was just about 90% for me. Not to hard.
 
3/26/14-Me lower
Conv deadlift off 4 inch block
495 w/ hook gripx1
525 w/ hook gripx1
545 reg gripx1
Bulgarian split squats
25lb barx10
45Lb barx10
65lb barx10
85Lb barx10
Hypers
Bwx12,12,12
Leg raises
Bwx15
Bw+5lbx12,12
Conditioning
4 laps with prowler high handles.
Notes: got the weight I wanted today. Was a brutal lift.
 
Nice work.

Block deadlifts can be rough, though they are a bit easier than rack pulls. My 2" block deadlift is actually well below my floor deadlift, haha.
 
Torobestia said:
Nice work.

Block deadlifts can be rough, though they are a bit easier than rack pulls. My 2" block deadlift is actually well below my floor deadlift, haha.
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I know many guys like that. My 525 block pull felt harder then my 525 pull off the floor. It just feels like an entirely different groove.
 
SweetLou321 said:
I know many guys like that. My 525 block pull felt harder then my 525 pull off the floor. It just feels like an entirely different groove.
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Totally agree with this. It's very different after you get so used to pulling from the floor. Half the time I don't even know where exactly to put my hips.
 
herderdude said:
Totally agree with this. It's very different after you get so used to pulling from the floor. Half the time I don't even know where exactly to put my hips.
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I just try to sit back and almost fall back into the pull to best simulate pulling from the floor. This is what Dave Tate has said about block and pin pulls.
 
SweetLou321 said:
I just try to sit back and almost fall back into the pull to best simulate pulling from the floor. This is what Dave Tate has said about block and pin pulls.
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Yeah, I just get into whatever position I would be in if the exercise were just a snapshot in time of a pull from the floor. Otherwise instead of training for the deadlift I'd be training for the rack pull/block pull.
 
After being on a trt dose of 200mg a.week in one shot for so long dropping down to 150mg a week split into two.shots feels so much different. I lost about 4-5 lbs of what appears to be water and glycogen. Also had to bump cals from 3300 to 4000 to compensate energy wise for my lifts. Libido is down also.
 
3/28/14-De bench
De floor press w/ doubled minis/de pull ups
185+Bandsx3,3,3,3/bwx2,2,2,2
155+Bandsx3,3,3,3/bwx2,2,2,2
Close grip rack lockouts
315X5
365X5
385X3
225X10
Neutral grip medium width pulldowns
165X8,8
Side raises/Db hammer curls
10X12/20x10
15X12/25x10
20X12/30x10
Notes: weight is stable at 220-221 yet I feel very dry and look noticibly leaner and less full. I feel weaker yet I am on par with my strength as before and even got a pr on rack lockouts. I dropped my 50mg dhea daily as blood work shows it's not needed so that could reduce my estrogen. Or that I split my shoot up twice a.week so more stable levels. Or my gear is underdosed or bunk. Guess I will ha e to.get bloodwork soon to find out what's going on.
 
SweetLou321 said:
After being on a trt dose of 200mg a.week in one shot for so long dropping down to 150mg a week split into two.shots feels so much different. I lost about 4-5 lbs of what appears to be water and glycogen. Also had to bump cals from 3300 to 4000 to compensate energy wise for my lifts. Libido is down also.
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Are you saying the new regimen is worse overall or just worse for the gym? If you feel like 150 is not enough wrt quality of life, maybe you should go back up to 200/week again, but try splitting that dose into 2x100mg shots. I dont like hearing your libido is down, though that might be a bit more psychological than physiological.
 
Torobestia said:
Are you saying the new regimen is worse overall or just worse for the gym? If you feel like 150 is not enough wrt quality of life, maybe you should go back up to 200/week again, but try splitting that dose into 2x100mg shots. I dont like hearing your libido is down, though that might be a bit more psychological than physiological.
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It's a multitude of issues. First being I lost my health insurance recently and.I just can not afford Obama care atm and all my other avenues for.coverage have stopped due to Obama care also. So I decided to just continue therapy as is best I could until I could resolve the issue. So now I have two separate brands of test. I decided to spend some time in the male anti aging section of the forum and read how to better my treatment, and what proper dhea levels are also. So I went from 200mg of test c in one shot, 50mg dhea, 2 erase per day to 200mg of one brand of test with 2 erase, 50mg dhea and I also tried formestane in this time period. That vial started to.core so I decided to try the other brand and lower the dose and split it up in an attempt to reduce my estrogen and need for an ai. I have blood work for 120mg and 200mg also I had done before I based this 150mg a week on. The 120 had me at about, 350 6 days after shot and 200 had me over 1200 6 days after shot. Also my dhea before supplementation was low 400s. So I decided to remove the dhea as my levels were not that low, and reduce test as well as split it into 2 shots, so 75mg twice a week. As I read splitting the shot up 2-3 days a week is better. Well no I am.very dry, nipple pain is gone which was present at previous protocol. But I am tired, lethargic, libido is down as is erection quality, and I am dry so to speak. Don't feel strong in my sessions either. So now I am wondering if this is just the removal in dhea, lower dose, and splitting the shots up keeping sides at bay of my test is underdosed or bunk. I will go to 100mg twice a week for a week's and.see how things progress and possibly get bloodwork done. I have several team mates rave about both brands so it makes me wonder about this second one.
 
SweetLou321 said:
It's a multitude of issues. First being I lost my health insurance recently and.I just can not afford Obama care atm and all my other avenues for.coverage have stopped due to Obama care also. So I decided to just continue therapy as is best I could until I could resolve the issue. So now I have two separate brands of test. I decided to spend some time in the male anti aging section of the forum and read how to better my treatment, and what proper dhea levels are also. So I went from 200mg of test c in one shot, 50mg dhea, 2 erase per day to 200mg of one brand of test with 2 erase, 50mg dhea and I also tried formestane in this time period. That vial started to.core so I decided to try the other brand and lower the dose and split it up in an attempt to reduce my estrogen and need for an ai. I have blood work for 120mg and 200mg also I had done before I based this 150mg a week on. The 120 had me at about, 350 6 days after shot and 200 had me over 1200 6 days after shot. Also my dhea before supplementation was low 400s. So I decided to remove the dhea as my levels were not that low, and reduce test as well as split it into 2 shots, so 75mg twice a week. As I read splitting the shot up 2-3 days a week is better. Well no I am.very dry, nipple pain is gone which was present at previous protocol. But I am tired, lethargic, libido is down as is erection quality, and I am dry so to speak. Don't feel strong in my sessions either. So now I am wondering if this is just the removal in dhea, lower dose, and splitting the shots up keeping sides at bay of my test is underdosed or bunk. I will go to 100mg twice a week for a week's and.see how things progress and possibly get bloodwork done. I have several team mates rave about both brands so it makes me wonder about this second one.
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Oh. When you changed your shot regimen to 150, did you stay on the AIs? I'm starting to think now your E could be shot, which could also account for poor libido if it's that far gone. Anyways, maybe you should get bloods once you've been on this new protocol for a month (have you) before you decide how to change course. I was just saying if 200 was fine already minus the E control and high E-related issues (wet, nipple sensitivitiy) you could still split the shots and see how that goes.
 
Torobestia said:
Oh. When you changed your shot regimen to 150, did you stay on the AIs? I'm starting to think now your E could be shot, which could also account for poor libido if it's that far gone. Anyways, maybe you should get bloods once you've been on this new protocol for a month (have you) before you decide how to change course. I was just saying if 200 was fine already minus the E control and high E-related issues (wet, nipple sensitivitiy) you could still split the shots and see how that goes.
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I discontinued the a.I.s as they didn't seem needed with how dry I was and no nipple pain. It has been 2 weeks actually. I will go back to 200mg with split shots and add back in the dhea as I was and leave it as I had it with the only variable I changed being the split into two shots for a month then get blood work in the month. Then based on how I feel and.it looks I will make a change as needed and then wait a month etc until I feel good and my blood work looks good. Thanks for the help. Do you happen to know if dhea has a negative feedback loop like test or other hormones since I was on 50mg orally for about a year straight. Do you think that could ha e caused the estrogen related issues and wetness also?
 
SweetLou321 said:
I discontinued the a.I.s as they didn't seem needed with how dry I was and no nipple pain. It has been 2 weeks actually. I will go back to 200mg with split shots and add back in the dhea as I was and leave it as I had it with the only variable I changed being the split into two shots for a month then get blood work in the month. Then based on how I feel and.it looks I will make a change as needed and then wait a month etc until I feel good and my blood work looks good. Thanks for the help. Do you happen to know if dhea has a negative feedback loop like test or other hormones since I was on 50mg orally for about a year straight. Do you think that could ha e caused the estrogen related issues and wetness also?
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I'm not familiar with DHEA supplementation, so I can't comment on the protocol for DHEA.

DHEA is going to be indirectly inhibitory depending on it's conversion rate to test in your body and on your genetic set point for testosterone. That's about all I can say on the matter.

Here's SuppVersity on DHEA: Invalid Link Removed I dont know what you can get out of there that would be helpful. I will say I don't immediately see the benefit of supplementing with DHEA while on testosterone, though. I would either use pregnenolone or progesterone.
 
Torobestia said:
I'm not familiar with DHEA supplementation, so I can't comment on the protocol for DHEA.

DHEA is going to be indirectly inhibitory depending on it's conversion rate to test in your body and on your genetic set point for testosterone. That's about all I can say on the matter.

Here's SuppVersity on DHEA: Invalid Link Removed I dont know what you can get out of there that would be helpful. I will say I don't immediately see the benefit of supplementing with DHEA while on testosterone, though. I would either use pregnenolone or progesterone.
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I will check it out when I get home. Thanks for all your help. I know this is a training log but I just felt like.discussing my current health issues hoping.someone would chime in. Progesterone supplementation for a guy? Or was that a just in general statement?
 
SweetLou321 said:
I will check it out when I get home. Thanks for all your help. I know this is a training log but I just felt like.discussing my current health issues hoping.someone would chime in. Progesterone supplementation for a guy? Or was that a just in general statement?
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I've definitely come around to the idea of progesterone supplementation for men on TRT. There was a guy (who used to be) active on this board, a 40+ year old AM veteran, who first introduced me to the concept. I think his name was Whacked .

Anyways, I don't really remember what these links say, but here is an initial body of literature to refer to on progesterone supplementation for men. May take you some time to get through it all.

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Torobestia said:
I've definitely come around to the idea of progesterone supplementation for men on TRT. There was a guy (who used to be) active on this board, a 40+ year old AM veteran, who first introduced me to the concept. I think his name was Whacked.

Anyways, I don't really remember what these links say, but here is an initial body of literature to refer to on progesterone supplementation for men. May take you some time to get through it all.

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You gave me even more to look over. Thanks this is helpful I will read thru this when I get home also. He is still active I see him post in the anabolic.section here and there. Do you have any links on pregnenalone?
 
Torobestia said:
I'm not familiar with DHEA supplementation, so I can't comment on the protocol for DHEA.

DHEA is going to be indirectly inhibitory depending on it's conversion rate to test in your body and on your genetic set point for testosterone. That's about all I can say on the matter.

Here's SuppVersity on DHEA: Invalid Link Removed I dont know what you can get out of there that would be helpful. I will say I don't immediately see the benefit of supplementing with DHEA while on testosterone, though. I would either use pregnenolone or progesterone.
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I read this over and I have a much better understanding now. He does state in the questions it can cause shutdown of cortisol and estrogen and.other androgens with dhea supplementation. Possiability for me being tired and dry? Maybe.
 
3/30/14-De lower
De box squat with chain
240+50lbs chainx2x10
Elevated ghrs
Bwx6,6
Bw+10x4
Barbell shrugs
225X10x3
Abs wheel
11,8,8
Notes: managed to get thru this session quick like I wanted. Was pretty good and felt good squatting. Hit a pr on the abs wheel too.
 
3/31/14-Me bench
Bench
315X1
Add slingshot
335X3
355X3
365X3 pr
Db complex
Oh-65x10
Flat-65x10
Incline-65x10
Decline-65x10
Seated wide grip cable rows
135X10
165X10
195X10
210X7
165X10
Incline Tate presses
35x10
40x10
45X10
Mini band pullapart complex
2 sets 10 each way and one extra set.of just the overhand and underhand.
Notes: good day. Was happy with the sslingshot pr. Shoulder held up great too. Things are coming along again.
 
4/02/14-me lower
Squat with buffalo bar
380x1
Add knee wraps
420X1
440x1
460x1
Split squat
75X10
85x10
105x8
Reverse hyper
70x10,10,10
Leg raises
Bwx12
Bw+5x12
Bw+10x12
Notes: all squats felt much easier and faster then the previous weeks. Hit 30lbs over my comp lift 1rm I set 4 weeks ago today and it was fast but form started to break down a touch in the upper back tightness. I caught a stomach virus the past two days so I haven't gotten much food. But lots of water and pepto seemed to help. I skipped conditioning to being underfed. Happy with the day and called the squatting 1-2 sets early due to sickness also. Also switched back to my other brand test and already filling back out and feeling much better. So this tells me the other brand is most likely underdosed so I may go half and half or something to use it up. Not sure what to do with it yet.
 
4/04/14-de bench
De bench w/ doubled mini bands
135+bandsx8x3
Close grip 3 board w/ doubled minis
275+bandsx5
295+bandsx5
185+Bandsx12,12
Medium grip pull-ups
Bwx10,8
Medium neutral grip pulldowns
135x8
150x8
Side raises/Db hammer curls
15x12/25x10
15x12/30x10
20x12/35x10
Notes: the rack was taken so I just decided to do a close grip 3 board. That was about a 345 top weight. Having trouble completing full range reps with pull-ups hence the mix. To many years of doing them.wrong I. Guessing. Addressing it now.
 
4/05/14-de lower
De squat w/ chains to parallel box
260+40lbs chainx10x2
De pull conv/sump
315+40lbs chainx6x1
Elevated ghrs w/ mini band
4/5/5
BB shrugs/balance work
225X10,10
315x10
Standing cable crunches
75X10
105X10
120x10
135x9
Notes: good day. Getting into a great groove for squatting and pulling. Very happy with today. Set up is getting.g.better on.both also.
 
4/07/14-me bench
Bench with chain
255+80lbs chainx1
275+80lbs chainx1
295+80lbs chainx1
Db complex
Oh-70x12
Flat-70x12
Incline-70x12
Decline-70x12
Wide grip seated cable rows
150x10
180x10
195x10,10,10
Rope pressdowns/mini band pullapart complex
45x12/10 each way
60x10/10 each way
45x12/first 2 sets 10 reps each way.
Notes: good day. I miss grooved the last set which made it brutal. I might have had a little more in me had.I not done that.
 
4/09/14-me lower
Conv deadlift off floor raw
455x1
495x1
515x1
545X1 20lb pr
Step ups
20lb dbsx8
30lb dbsx8
35lb dbsx8
Reverse hypers with a pause at the top
45x10
70x10,10
Side bends
45x10
55x10
65x10
Notes: i got exactly what I wanted today. I was very happy with that pull. It was faster and stronger then my 545 off a 4 inch block. I might get a conv deadline suit and try that out since my raw pulling is going so good.
 
4/11/14-De bench
De bench with doubled mini bands
155+bandsx3
175+bandsx7x3
Close grip floor press rack lockouts
315x3
365X3
365 with slingshotx10
225x14
Medium grip pull-ups
Bwx10,8
Close grip neutral meltdowns
135x10
150x10
Side raises/rear raises/cambered bar curls
15X12/15x12/45x15
20X10/15x12/75x10
20x10/15x12/75x10
Notes: good day. Speed work went the best it has in awhile. Overall good day and felt strong on.everything especially the pull ups today.
 
4/13/14-De lower
De ssb squat with parallel box and chains
270+40lbs chainx8x2
Elevated ghrs w/ bands
Bwx8
Bw+mini bandsx6
Bw+monster bandsx5,5
Bb shrugs/balance work
225x10
315x10,10
Standing cable crunches
90x10
120X10
135x10
150x6
Notes: good day. Fast and explosive and hit a few accessory prs too.
 
4/14/14-Me bench
2 board press
365X1
385x1
405X1 pr
Db complex
Oh-75x10
Flat w/ pause-75x10
Incline-75x10
Decline-75x10
Kroc rows with no straps
125x20 each arm
Rope pressdowns
45x15,15,15
Mini band pullapart complex
2 sets 10 reps each way and one each set of just over hand and under hand.
Notes: things are going well raw. That was a big 2 board for me.
 
Agreed with herder, damn.
 
4/16/14-me lower
Raw squat w/ wraps
415x1
455x1
480X1 5lb all time pr
500x1 25lb all time pr
Step ups
20lb dbsx3 sets of 10 each leg
Reverse hypers with pause at the top
70x3 sets of 10
Side bends
45x10
60x10
70x10
Notes: so in 6 weeks of raw training I have hit all my goals I set for 12 weeks. A 545 raw conventional pull and a 500 raw squat with wraps. So I guess I will just continue the next 6 weeks as written and go for even bigger prs before throwing gear back into the equation.
 
Hell yeah, Lou. Great job smashing the weights
 
4/18/14-de bench
De bench w/ chains
185+40lbs chainx8x3
Jm press to 4 board
185x5
225x5
135X15
Pull-ups
Bwx12,9
Close grip v-bar pulldowns
150x10
165x10
Side raises/rear raises/Db curls
15X12/15x12/30x8
20x12/15x12/30x8
20x12/15x10/30x8
Notes: good day and let my shoulders take a break with the jm presses for me bench on Monday.
 
4/19/14-de lower
De squat w/ buffalo bar w/ parallel box w/ light bands
240+bandsx8x2
De conv/sumo deadlift w/ chain
315+40lbsx8x1
Elevated ghrs
Bwx8
Bw+mini bandx6,6,5
Shurgs/balance work
225x10,10
315X10,10
Standing cable crunches
120x10
135x10
150x8 pr
Notes: great day, felt fast, strong and in the groove.
 
4/21/14-me bench
Floor press
275X1
295x1
315x1
325x0
Incline bench press
205x5
225X3
Dips
Bwx12,12
Wide grip seated cable rows
165x10
180x10
195x8
180x8,8
Unilateral mini band pushdowns
100 total reps 40/20/20/20
Unilateral micro band facepulls
15/15/15
Notes: i felt very dry today. I think I lowered my estrogen to much so I will just let it rebound and address from there. So I missed a pr today. Shoulders were not strong enough. Hit a good incline press today. Stopped early on the last set. Was able to do dips free from pain today also. All around decent day. Going to try to bring up my bottom end more and more for now.
 
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