Bintherduntht
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Haven't tried the MK.... But just got a years worth of jintropin. Yes, it's legit
SUSTANON ED OR M/W/F
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Bintherduntht
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The fat loss is insane on HGH. Tendons stronger than ever could have imagined. Joints healed, skin and hair better etc.
bigalex
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so i should take nolvadex 20mg every monday say? or eod with my arimidex
and 0.5.mg arimidex on mon/wed/fri when i pin?
u guys are the best and kind
the other boards and forums are all know it alls and ****heads with no manners lool
this is my forum of choice from now on
thanks again
and 0.5.mg arimidex on mon/wed/fri when i pin?
u guys are the best and kind
the other boards and forums are all know it alls and ****heads with no manners lool
this is my forum of choice from now on
thanks again
Chados
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Just take arimidex, rep I believe is if I rep you and people two that comment too I get some points but might be wrong here. Who cares about rep?
people know you for what you contribute to and not some number under your user name.
Chados
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I saw you said Mon wed Friday. Let me remind you that you should take it every other day so after Friday it's Sunday -tuesday-Thursday. It changes and I'm not sure what gear or dosage you were running but I do .25mg and I'm fine. You can start from there and add .25 if you have to
Chados
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You could but you kinda wanna see where your estrogen is at. I think that's too much test though. Personal I think I would be fine at 0.25 but many people aren't. You have to do bloodtest to see how much you need, you don't want too little or too much estrogen.
Bintherduntht
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EFFIN A!! EXACTLY!!! Some guy catsnake or something kept negging me and totally lost focus on the post. He was so focused on me because I disagreed with him... His anger got out of control. Kept messaging me and telling me not to post anymore because I "was giving out wrong info" and "wouldn't" admit I was wrong. I kept pointing out the fact that I did admit I Was wrong, you all can go read the thread yourselves... He's like "you have the gall to question me?" I told him I'm here to learn and to share knowledge. No one on this planet knows everything. I said keep negging me, I'm not going anywhere... Some guys have an ego problem. When someone gets angry at me in real life or online, I just laugh, smile and tell them Godbless. Hate and anger solves nothing.Just take arimidex, rep I believe is if I rep you and people two that comment too I get some points but might be wrong here. Who cares about rep?
TLDR: You can get mad, or you can relax, enjoy the ride, live and learn, and help spread useful knowledge. Rep points mean jack shiii
Chados
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I feel you, got questioned about rep points when I joined here. Don't trust this guys opinion cause he doesn't have rep, how can you have rep of you just joined? haha. Anyways I think rep is something you create yourself by repping others but could be wrong. I just like the comments so I guess I will never get the rep
Chados
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Steroids build muscles they are not fatburners. I don't see the point not using the advantage and build muscle.
Bintherduntht
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How do you rep? I've been a member since '06. But was a stupid teen and came on all aggressive and the "I know it all attitude" lol. Never worried about rep. It's like real life. The proof is in the puddin baby! Anyways rep doesn't matter. Like video games or awards... Bragging rights. I'm here to learn but also give knowledge I've gained from real life. Not staring at a computer screenI feel you, got questioned about rep points when I joined here. Don't trust this guys opinion cause he doesn't have rep, how can you have rep of you just joined? haha. Anyways I think rep is something you create yourself by repping others but could be wrong. I just like the comments so I guess I will never get the rep
Bintherduntht
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Test is versatile. You can bulk or cut. If wanting to cut on T, restrict your calories. T boosts metabolism and burns fat. Any weight gain without training is just water.
Chados
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Adding to this, youre basically a more developed man with more testosteron than any natural person. You can cut but to starve on something that's supposed to build muscles doesn't make sense to me. Don't do steroids to loose a ton of fat, use steroids to improve your already built physique. You'll be highly disappointed if you don't feed yourself enough.
Bintherduntht
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Agreed, although nowadays is test still considered a steroid? But completely agree. Don't start injecting test and fasting to lose weight. Train naturally as long as you can first
Cgkone
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Also its good to get lots of advice bro.
Your talking about almost a gram a week correct?
Lots of people use Nolva more than once a week.
I use it way more than that.
You have to research.
Because adex alone may not work for you
Nolva once a week may not work for you.
So if somebody says something its just advice.
Nobody on here wrote the book on injection days or AI or SERM.
If your bloated and eating clean you might need more AI and SERM.
bigalex
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guys im gonna do im fasting with lean foods 3 meals a day from 2pm to 8 9m
and im gonna add cardio 6 days week so i can take of the bloat and start to get more definition
for the last 5 weeks **** all out and see what happens
next cycle im gonna check on here for advice
im gonna start it may 2018 for summer
any recommendations of a 2nd cycle stack for summer
and im gonna add cardio 6 days week so i can take of the bloat and start to get more definition
for the last 5 weeks **** all out and see what happens
next cycle im gonna check on here for advice
im gonna start it may 2018 for summer
any recommendations of a 2nd cycle stack for summer
Chados
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When is summer where you live? The bloat will go away after the cycle. I think it's better to keep dosage low to have an easier recivery and to keep the cycle more clean especially in a stack. 750mg is just way too much for a beginner, you really won't notice much more gains but just more sides. People who go that high stopped getting results at lower dosage , they dont run a stack with something else or they are just being reckless. i keep test at 320 right now during a stack.
Chados
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Not sure but it's not natural so I call it steroid just like I call superdrol ph even though it's considered an aas. I just feel it's easier to call them for what they were realesed as. You're not gonna buy winstrol from predator nutrition.
bigalex
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bump!!
Cgkone
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Good move
Lots of advice> little advice
Also its cool to start a new thread.
You got injection days dialed.
More people will see a new thread.
Bintherduntht
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Testosterone is not natural? It is... Exogenous test is man made but replaces your natural test, unlike prohormones that must be converted 2 even 3 times putting major stress on the body. Ever felt good on a ph? I haven't. Only oral that ever made me feel good was dbol. Good ol test is all you need. Superdrol is a complete waste. Blow up and look big for 4 weeks, while destroying your lipid profile and liver and kidneys, just to lose the water.
Test is best! It's the closest to a natural that actually works your ever going to get
Chados
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I mean that adding test above natural levels is not normal. I actually feel thst superdrol is extremly dry and while I felt good on dbol theres nothing that gives so much estrogenic sides. The orals I felt nothing on meaning no sides and no annoying pain are tbol nanodrol and epistane. Others gave me too much pump,estrogen or dry joints. To me dbol is how you explained sd
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Bintherduntht
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Your using test completely wrong brother. First of all, it's not possible to fast while eating three meals a day. Fasting means not eating... 750mg of testosterone, fasting and eating 3 meals from 2pm until 9pm? What in the actual fuk? You do not know how to use test. That dose would be for an intermediate to advanced aas user.
Not to mention that a dose of 750mg of test is used for cutting. That is rediculous my man.
Also you are going to INCREASE the dosage at the end of your cycle? So you can crash harder?
Do not take it until you do research. That doesn't mean coming on here and expecting to be spoon fed directions.
No. Just no. My very first cycle, I was handed a bottle of sust 250. The real organon kind. I had to figure out where to get pins, what size pin to draw with and shoot with. Where to shoot... You sound like me when I was younger.
Do more actual research on proper diet and aerobic activity to lose weight.
Don't inject "750mg of test a week" and fast to lose weight.
Goddamn.
Bintherduntht
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Superdrol may be a dry compound, but it wreaks havoc on your body. I get it man. It's easy to pop those pills, get big and look good and look in the mirror thinking "damn" lol. Epi is a ph. PHs as you will come to learn, are a waste. Orals are icing on the cake.I mean that adding test above natural levels is not normal. I actually feel thst superdrol is extremly dry and while I felt good on dbol theres nothing that gives so much estrogenic sides. The orals I felt nothing on meaning no sides and no annoying pain are tbol nanodrol and epistane. Others gave me too much pump,estrogen or dry joints. To me dbol is how you explained sd
The concern should not be about how you feel on those orals. Most guys who take a lot of orals are to scared to inject. The gains from Oral cycles will eventually disappear. You may "bust through a plateau" but eventually your strength and size will return to normal. All you did was look good for a bit.
The only thing close to permanent gains would be with HGH. Orals are fun, bit never permanent
Bintherduntht
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Test injects are more natural than any compound you listed... Do we naturally make supedrol? Catch my drift?I mean that adding test above natural levels is not normal. I actually feel thst superdrol is extremly dry and while I felt good on dbol theres nothing that gives so much estrogenic sides. The orals I felt nothing on meaning no sides and no annoying pain are tbol nanodrol and epistane. Others gave me too much pump,estrogen or dry joints. To me dbol is how you explained sd
Inject test, stay away from PHs period
Chados
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I don't do orals preferably anymore but with test involved there's nothing that says gains won't be there. The effect of something like winstrol will obviously not be permanent but you can keep a good bit. Doing orals without test is a disaster and I always tell people not to do it. Right now I'm kinda done with orals although I'm running tbol which is one of the safer ones and with the most keepable gains. After this cycle im not sure I'll ever touch an oral just because I feel I get enough of an effect with injectible and the cost of these orals can be quite expensive. Anadrol super harsh, dbol I just hate cause of estrogen, anavar doesn't do much and is expensive, winstrol is awesome but dry joints, tbol expensive. Nah I agree that it's just better to stay away from orals.
Bintherduntht
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Anavar is one of my favorites... Best pumps, tons of strength, better skin, more endurance and stamina. With no bloat or estro sides. A perfect oral
Chados
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I feel that tbol does the same but more. And I think winstrol is far better but yeah theres something to be said about feeling good during a cycle and after. Anavar is definitely a very comfortable compound to run except for the pumps haha. How far have you gone with injectibles? Any favorite here so far?
Bintherduntht
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Winstrol is something I would never take... Even bought some before solid research, than threw it away. Hair loss, horrible cholesterol levels, and fuked up tendons with dry joints? No thank you! I've injected all forms of test, for some reason I like sust. Might be a mental thing... I love long ester injects... Once a week. Every Sunday. As far as injectables, test, tren, deca, and primobolan. I've tried all orals except tbol. My favorite is definitely test of course. But since I get legit primo, I love that and stay on for upwards of 6 months. Virtually no sides, but gains suck. I take it for quality gains. It boosts your immune system like crazy, I never get sick. Its also great for joints and ligaments. It's a very mild compound so I do it year round low dose with test. Tren is always crazy as far as strength and having that great shape. You bulk while shredding on it. ****s knarly but makes me want to choke people and fuk anything that walks. My new favorite is HGH which I just started. Deca gives good solid gains. As far as orals go, I like var, dbols, and adrol.
Bintherduntht
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I have a **** load of eq on hand but not sure about taking it so to the fact it causes anxiety. Which I have enough of lol.
FRITZBLITZ
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You must have not read my autobiography yet....It's a BEST SELLER
Cgkone
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Hahaha
FRITZBLITZ
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Dude I don't mean to bust your balls but your kinda posting some ignorant stuff. Testosterone is a steroid because it's a exogenous substance that works on the anabolic/adrogenic receptors hence AAS. Hellll there are anti-inflammatory steroids that work on cortisol. Next SD, Epi, Phera, Halo ect. are not PHs they are steroids because they are an active molecule that does not need to be converted to work as an AAS. Next These steroids are some of the most potent steroids out there. Yes IM gear is all over better but when stacked with an oral you can break extra boundaries that are not achievable with IM alone in 1 cycle
Bintherduntht
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Yes you are correct. My bad. Much respect. Thank you for correcting me! With IM like test, you most certainly can break those boundaries. Will they be permanent muscle gains? No. And that was my point. It's not ignorance... It's science. A man has only so many muscle fibers in let's say his bicep. So you work that bicep, causing hypertrophy, which breaks down the EXISTING muscle fibers to become bigger. Where as HGH creates NEW MUSCLE FIBERS making that same bicep permanently bigger by being able to break down and rebuild more muscle tissue. Actually, are both permanent? Not at all. Is Arnold still huge? No. Ronnie Coleman? No. But Ronnie is still bigger than Arnold because Ronnie took gh creating new muscle where as Arnold popped dbol and injected test. What I was trying to say is exogenous testosterone, while may not be a natural supplement is naturally produced in our bodies therefore its the closest "natural" muscle builder(besides natty test boosters that don't and will never work) you can use.
When they came out (epi, SD, halo, etc.) They were called prohormones. Had to be converted. I think some still do like epi.
"Epistane*is a DHT derived prohormone that was brought to market by RPN with their product "Havoc."*Epistane*is an anti-estrogenic dry compound that will aid users in adding lean muscle mass as well as cutting fat."
I stopped messing with them as soon as I discovered test lol. So while they were being researched more( because they were legal, just how there is a lot more studies about marijuana now that its becoming more legal) I was not paying attention. Hell, my buddy and I walked right into GNC and bought Halodrol right off the shelf. You could walk into a nutrition shop and buy sdrol back in the early 2000s. Even M1T. The most toxic of them all.
Not ignorance, but debating topics.
Bottom line, orals are harsh on your whole system, PHs even worse. Straight test would be the least harmful
Bintherduntht
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I re read the post. I'm not being ignorant at all. Just stating facts. Please don't take it the wrong way
FRITZBLITZ
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Dude your stating some fact, some fiction and your facts are a portion of the whole picture. What doe SD, Phera, Halo, or Epi need to convert to to be active? Lou Farrigno is bigger than both of them and he never took GH, You don't think when you workout that your own IGF and GH take stem cells and turn them into new muscle cells without any exogenous compounds? I think you just need to fill in your gaps of knowledge, I'm not saying you dont know shiiit
Bintherduntht
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They may not require conversion. But are still more harsh on the body than testosterone, because you ingest them, where they are broken down in the liver, straining the liver like alcohol. Fact. Testosterone does not need to be broken down in the liver. Fact.
Bintherduntht
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Also lou is bigger because he was naturally bigger. We all shrink when we get older... A bigger man will shrink, but still be bigger. Cmon man that ones easy!
FRITZBLITZ
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wow you still won't drop it and youre now spitting out BS Lou is bigger because he still works out. Google lou fariggno at age 16 he was a skinny bean pole then google Arnold at age 16 and he is yoked "cmon man" you are digging yourself a grave of half knowledge let it go.
Bintherduntht
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This is my last post with you brother. No point in arguing. I tried to explain Arnold was on juice at 16. He admitted to it. They both still workout... But you missed my point here's some pics.
This is them nowadays. Hey brother, we all bleed red. Take whatever you want. Pop those pills. Injectable test is safer was the point.
In the end, we all shrivel up and get old and die. So get it while the gettns good. Nice debate. Have a good one!
Peace.
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Chados
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I agree with tren and primo. Fantastic compounds.
bigalex
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u hit the nail on the head dude!!!! i appreciate and understand
im gonna do a keto diet then full protein and fats for the last 5 weeks remaining **** load of food and calories!
so at least i can see some nice muscle on me right?
like what was the point of this cycle iv been injecting 7 weeks and i got ****..the gear is for the rubbish never again the same source of even sustanon its hard with multi esters
but then with pct im gnna lose some musccle **** this gear thing is not joke nothing to being playing around with..next cycle im doing my ****ing research asap and not listen to gym bros
btw i was thinking can i run just nolvadex pct? 40/40/20/20
or is clomid needed too?
i can get them easy here . in greece for like 3 bucks lol from the pharmacy
i dunno about hcg
they even got deca..it unbelievable lol imagine back in the early 90/00s how much was being sold here as over the counter with no prescription
only in greece lool
they bring deca and they stopped selling test e this year ...suppose the deca is for joint pain cause its in 50 ml ampoules but its really cheap
Swindler
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so would you say you could lean out and bulk at the same time on these compounds.... compared to test and deca
Chados
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Well primo is a lean gainer, theoretically all steroids can help lean you out but tren is at another level. Tren doesnt add any water and it helps get rid of fat. The nutrient partioning makes you able to eat less clean and still get results.
Primo is such a safe compound compared to tren and it's great because of that, it takes longer but it's well worth it.