Supps for PCT

[rphash49]

I know personally with torem I FEEL like i rebound much faster then other serms. And higher doses of Clomid at the front of pct make me moody.

Agreed. Clomid works for me but with torem I have zero sides and I "feel" recovered in days not weeks.

 

[infraredline]

Curious, why do you consider it garbage?

Why's that? I haven't really seen too much bad on it (out of the ordinary at least) but TBH I haven't looked into Torem much.

1) nolvadex is a carcinogen
2) increases clotting factor which is not something you want to do in an environment with and already high rbc
3) decreases collagen synthesis and igf-1 production
4) does nothing to restore the hpta, it's only use is to help prevent gyno formation, Dan Duchaine even said this. We now have AI's for this purpose which have less sides and quite frankly work better.
5) in most, again I say most not all, people it makes them feel like garbage

Torem is the superior serm. It should always be used unless you have run a 19-nor which you should then use clomid.

 

[infraredline]

Welp, your opinion is garbage in my opinion.

Personally, Clomid over all.. .wouldn't touch torem with a 10 foot pole.

Mike

My friend I suggest you get out of the 80's with your knowledge regarding pct. Your almost as bad as the people that still believe evolution doesn't exist

 

[RecompMan]

1) nolvadex is a carcinogen
2) increases clotting factor which is not something you want to do in an environment with and already high rbc
3) decreases collagen synthesis and igf-1 production
4) does nothing to restore the hpta, it's only use is to help prevent gyno formation, Dan Duchaine even said this. We now have AI's for this purpose which have less sides and quite frankly work better.
5) in most, again I say most not all, people it makes them feel like garbage

Torem is the superior serm. It should always be used unless you have run a 19-nor which you should then use clomid.

#1 is true to a degree but not at te dose or length you use it

2 and 3. Most serms and ai"s do this with exception of exemestane

4. It does a lot to restore the hpga mainly through the hypothalamus where clomid is through the pituitary. Torem is 4 chloro tamoxifen making it better for lowering e2 which Nolva won't do. But mg for mg isn't as Strong and more expensive.

5. Clomid shouldn't make anyone feel like garbage if ran with an AI

You comment about being stuck in the 80s was rude. There's a lot of tried and true value in what critical was saying. Pick up Seth Roberts anabolic pharmacology. It'll shed new light on a lot of stuff.

 

[infraredline]

#1 is true to a degree but not at te dose or length you use it

2 and 3. Most serms and ai"s do this with exception of exemestane

4. It does a lot to restore the hpga mainly through the hypothalamus where clomid is through the pituitary. Torem is 4 chloro tamoxifen making it better for lowering e2 which Nolva won't do. But mg for mg isn't as Strong and more expensive.

5. Clomid shouldn't make anyone feel like garbage if ran with an AI

You comment about being stuck in the 80s was rude. There's a lot of tried and true value in what critical was saying. Pick up Seth Roberts anabolic pharmacology. It'll shed new light on a lot of stuff.

Formestane also does not hence why I never recommend using anything by aromasin or formestane for an ai. Arimistane also seems to not have a negative effect regarding this either.

I wasn't referring to clomid I was referring to nolvadex with the ****ty feeling point.

And how was the other posters comment not rude? "in my opinion your opinion is garbage" I firmly believe in the saying do unto others as you would have done unto yourself, if he wants to be a dick then I'm gonna be one back.

Also that book was published in 2007, a whole 6 years ago. So much has been learned an a lot has changed in that short 6 years so I don't feel that is an up to date source of info. Even the most recent anabolics which was published 3 years ago is outdated regarding a lot of its information.

 

[RecompMan]

Formestane also does not hence why I never recommend using anything by aromasin or formestane for an ai. Arimistane also seems to not have a negative effect regarding this either.

I wasn't referring to clomid I was referring to nolvadex with the ****ty feeling point.

And how was the other posters comment not rude? "in my opinion your opinion is garbage" I firmly believe in the saying do unto others as you would have done unto yourself, if he wants to be a dick then I'm gonna be one back.

Also that book was published in 2007, a whole 6 years ago. So much has been learned an a lot has changed in that short 6 years so I don't feel that is an up to date source of info. Even the most recent anabolics which was published 3 years ago is outdated regarding a lot of its information.

It's still a very good read.

Your right I didn't comment on the other posters actions. He's been on this forum a long time and more then likely ment no disrespect

Arimistane for me feels like it lowers cortisol more then estrogen.

Form and 6 bromos for the legal stuff. However the fact that form lowers dht some what I do not like that's why when it was available bromo all the wah

 

[Spaniard]

X-Gels! Get those in there you won't regret it BUT you will regret NOT