houstontexas
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Thanks. I'll check out YouTube later and see what I can find.
Supplement for Lower Back Pain
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Thanks. I'll check out YouTube later and see what I can find.
haiz69
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FYI, I was saying to do them vs. extreme flexion/extension movements (although I would work some controlled extension stuff in there, but after making sure alignment was good and form was maintained).
kenpoengineer
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Agree with this if you add glucosamine as well.
turff49
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Ok, I'm going to go against the norm. Have the surgery and get it fixed. It's not going to get better and the pain day in and day out will take it's toll on you.
Now what gives me the right to say that? I have C2-C7 fused and L4-S1 fused. I now live a normal life, relatively pain free and workout pretty much every day.
Now what gives me the right to say that? I have C2-C7 fused and L4-S1 fused. I now live a normal life, relatively pain free and workout pretty much every day.
bobbybondmo
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Hard ass foam roller - and grind at your hip flexors, groin, hips, butt, hams and quads. Take the pressure off the affected area is the best anti inflammatory and healing agent you can throw at it. Do this three times a week forever.
turff49
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If it's muscle related then yes. But if it's disc then no. With DDD the fluid causes the inflammation. And the really only fix is to repair the disc or the area where the ruptured disc was. Disc Degenerative Disease sucks, but it is fixable.
CATdiesel76
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Glad to hear yours were successful. Being in the field of back surgeries, I would say keep that as a last option. I see just as many people come out worse than before as I do people getting better. It can be a miracle or nightmare. Luckily, yours went well so glad to hear that
turff49
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Problem is usually the individual themselves. The pain right after surgery is excruciating but you have to work through it. Also it helps to be diagnosed properly. I had 3 different surgeries and it wasn't until they fused C2 that the lower back pain went away. Yes, C2. Of course the doc said it had to be a coincidence as C2 wouldn't have any effect on the lumbar area but I disagree as I lived it and experienced it. All nerves ass through the C2 area.
Also, by the time most people have the surgery they have let themselves go and recovery is harder. There are just so many variables involved. But if the person has DDD then surgery should be a viable option they should consider. If just a herniated disc then of course not, it can be fixed through various other options. Just my .02 since surgery always is "the last option".
Also, by the time most people have the surgery they have let themselves go and recovery is harder. There are just so many variables involved. But if the person has DDD then surgery should be a viable option they should consider. If just a herniated disc then of course not, it can be fixed through various other options. Just my .02 since surgery always is "the last option".
Yolked
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My disctectomy was an outpatient setting. Went in at 9am and was home in time for dinner. Though I wasn't in mood to eat. Was feeling relief within few days and by end of week was feeling better than I was b4 surgery. L4L5. I also have ddd in surrounding discs. The joint help is helping I also take glucosamine, msm, hyaluronic acid, flaxseed oil, omega 3, cla, vit E, zinc/mag d3, multi vit and Equipoise to help collagen regeneration....
CATdiesel76
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I agree with all this. But having watched 100's of back surgeries, 1,000's of things can and go wrong that are completely out of the patients control. Many do go very well and change people's lives for the better. However, many have complications and make things even worse. That is why I always advise people to have it as a last resort or if the pain is severely affecting their everyday lives and they have exhausted options such as PT, Chiropractic, Yoga, you name it.
Piledahlaren
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I jump into this one! I also have back pain since 2 y back my concern is not only how to handle it long time but the elevated cortisol levels? if they are at all. This would make it so much harder for us to put on muscle? My "dream" is to step on stage sometime but this makes it reallly hard : \
I use cissus it helps some.. only tried the 40% extract going to try the 8% next time.
How is agmatine helping with pain? its pretty cheap so might get it again then..
thanks!
I use cissus it helps some.. only tried the 40% extract going to try the 8% next time.
How is agmatine helping with pain? its pretty cheap so might get it again then..
thanks!
klind14
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At this time, I'm not even considering surgery. I don't feel things are bad enough to warrant the risk. However, that could change in the future if things get worse. For now, I'll just stick with Agmatine since it works so well. One question for other agmatine users - have you noticed a big difference in brands? I started with Primaforce and it worked well. I switched to Muscle Feast Agmapure because it was about half the cost. While it still works, it seems like I have to take a higher dose for the same effects. I don't know if it's possible to develop some tolerance to the agmatine effects or if it's due to the difference in brands. Will probably buy Primaforce, SNS or iForce agmatine next to see if there is a difference but would still appreciate the opinions of others.
haiz69
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Agmatine is worth a shot. It has a plethora of benefits and potential pain relief is one of them. Cissus really depends upon the extract and quality, but its worth a shot as well.
I wouldn't worry about the cortisol levels in and of themselves to be honest. Have you been tested or do you just "feel" like they are high? I would focus on trying to right the pain and then everything else will fall into place.
Quality could certainly vary, but it is hard to know without seeing a test. I would just strick with Primaforce, SNS, or Iforce. All should be on par with each other.