Supernova vs Vasoburn vs Exotherm

money0351

money0351

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Strictly comparing them a topical fat burner (I know exotherm is also an AI) has anyone tried all 3

I'm looking to add something to aid in an upcoming cut and was wondering if anyone has any unbias feedback

Pre/post pics are welcome
 
money0351 said:
Strictly comparing them a topical fat burner (I know exotherm is also an AI) has anyone tried all 3

I'm looking to add something to aid in an upcoming cut and was wondering if anyone has any unbias feedback

Pre/post pics are welcome
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I've used all 3. VB is pretty much on par with the effects of eviscerate. I like the carrier better than Evisc. More gel-like with no particles left on the skin. It starts out itchier but progresses to a nice burn like evisc. Both are better for subcutaneous fat stores. Exo has no burn whatsoever. It really made me sweat more during just about any activity. Definitely thermogenic. I used it when I was pretty lean so the extra drying effect was pretty stellar. Supernova is effective at local reduction at any fat range. I logged it and had profound effects with minimal dieting. There are pics in my log:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/284806-evomuse-5000-supernova.html
 
Jebrook said:
I've used all 3. VB is pretty much on par with the effects of eviscerate. I like the carrier better than Evisc. More gel-like with no particles left on the skin. It starts out itchier but progresses to a nice burn like evisc. Both are better for subcutaneous fat stores. Exo has no burn whatsoever. It really made me sweat more during just about any activity. Definitely thermogenic. I used it when I was pretty lean so the extra drying effect was pretty stellar. Supernova is effective at local reduction at any fat range. I logged it and had profound effects with minimal dieting. There are pics in my log:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/284806-evomuse-5000-supernova.html
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For the price and effectiveness what is your opinion on the best value? Eviscerate seems to be the cheapest
 
georgetown said:
For the price and effectiveness what is your opinion on the best value? Eviscerate seems to be the cheapest
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Evisc is on closeout I believe, it definitely will be a good value. It is only considered really effective on subq fat stores, so like 12% BMI and lower is what Evomuse recommends. Of the 3 the OP asked about, none are cheap and each is effective but work better at different levels of leanness. VB is probably the most expensive IIRC. In that case, I'd go for Evisc unless you hate the carrier debris like some people do. I would only use Exo and expect overall increased drying, not necessarily localized fat reduction. I think it only has significant leaning effects/appearance when one is already pretty lean. I don't think a guy at 18-20% BMI would notice anything appearance-wise.
 
Jebrook said:
Evisc is on closeout I believe, it definitely will be a good value. It is only considered really effective on subq fat stores, so like 12% BMI and lower is what Evomuse recommends. Of the 3 the OP asked about, none are cheap and each is effective but work better at different levels of leanness. VB is probably the most expensive IIRC. In that case, I'd go for Evisc unless you hate the carrier debris like some people do. I would only use Exo and expect overall increased drying, not necessarily localized fat reduction. I think it only has significant leaning effects/appearance when one is already pretty lean. I don't think a guy at 18-20% BMI would notice anything appearance-wise.
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Thanks for the input! And I'm not particularly concerned about debris or the scent of the carrier. I'll check out your log for sure

I tend to stay pretty lean year round but I'm trying to see how lean I can get this year

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Jebrook said:
IMO, considering localized fat reduction only and none of the other benefits of each:

SN>VB>Exo
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I would agree with this. I haven't used all three but based on the feedback and reviews I've seen this is about right in terms of which is better than the other.
 
I have yet to run any topical without it bothering my skin after about 5-7 consecutive days. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to keep the skin from breaking out? I exfoliate every night. Not a terrible rash, but just bumps that show up and itch, eventually breaking open with scratching.

Also, my vote is for Supernova. I noticed a small change in just 7 days.
 
Hit the Googles! :

BLR ExoTherm Ingredients:

Ethanol, Water, 5,7-Dihydroxyflavone (Chrysin), Atratcylodes Macrocephala, Cirsium oligophyllym, Stearyl vanillylamide, Glycerine, Isopropyl mystrate, Propylene glycol, Triethylamine, Carbomer.


EM Supernova Ingredients:

Ingredients: Isopropyl alcohol, benzyl alcohol, Bitter Melon Seed Oil, Triglyceride Complex, Raspberry Ketones, Phytol, Aminophylline, Cocoa Extract (std for Theophylline) Yohimbine HCI, Euphorbia Kansui Extract, Bergenin, Resveratrol, Lecithin, Glucosamine Sulfate, Caffeine Anhydrous, Rosehips Extract, Octyl Salicylate, n-Methyl-2-Pyrrolidinone, d-Limonene, Banaba Extract, beta-Escin, Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Ellagic Acid 98%, Polyacrylamide (and) C13-14 Isoparaffin (and) Laureth-7, carbomer, Nobiletin, Stearoyl Vanillylamide Laurocapram, l-menthol, peppermint oil.

MPA VasoBurn Ingredients:

Water (Aqua/Eua), Ethyl Alcohol (organic), Dimethyl Isosorbide, Ethoxydiglycol, 3-Aminopropanoic Acid, Yohimbine Hydrochloride, Triethanolamine, Theophylline, Zingiber Officinale (Ginger) Root Extract, Carbomer, Raspberry Ketone, Benzyl Nicotinate, Trans-Cinnamaldehyde oil, Tetrahydropiperine*, N-Vanillylnonanamide.
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I've used MPA and EM products, but only seriously took body-comp measurements with Supernova: 1-2mm SubQ adipose reduction next to navel while at maintenance calories. There's also a margin of error in there because I don't own DXA or Ultrasound devices :D End-User friendliness would go to VB. No matter what, IMO, these products are for when just have to spend ~$45 and you have everything else for your cut already.
 
enhanced said:
I have yet to run any topical without it bothering my skin after about 5-7 consecutive days. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to keep the skin from breaking out? I exfoliate every night. Not a terrible rash, but just bumps that show up and itch, eventually breaking open with scratching.

Also, my vote is for Supernova. I noticed a small change in just 7 days.
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I've never had any issues with any of the dozen topicals I've used so I can't help. Sorry. Exfoliation and moisturization really are the only things I can think of that may help other than experimenting with different products/carriers:(. Maybe washing the product off after adequate absorption time and cycling on/off for a few days at a time may help those with sensitive skin adjust. Then again, skin sensitivity is tough to avoid for those that have that issue.
 
Jebrook said:
I've never had any issues with any of the dozen topicals I've used so I can't help. Sorry. Exfoliation and moisturization really are the only things I can think of that may help other than experimenting with different products/carriers:(. Maybe washing the product off after adequate absorption time and cycling on/off for a few days at a time may help those with sensitive skin adjust. Then again, skin sensitivity is tough to avoid for those that have that issue.
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That's what I was thinking/wondering. Maybe wash it off after a few hours? Think I may message dsade.
 
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