Superdrol pulse advice.

Thanks for the info woodbear, I wish I had known that and been into lifting the last time I was there. Too bad we stopped going there for now, I hope it starts up again.
 
woodbear said:
Thanks.. Im using 10 mg sd on sd pulse. Used 50 mg with anadrol.
Doing sd this week... Since i will probably pulse 6 weeks, i might switch if sd does not feel as good. So far 50 mg anadrol feels a lot less harsh than just 10mg sd... But thats more based on feeling...no facts
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Really? The SD feels harsh at 10mgs What are you feeling? Is your diet in check? Getting enough carbs? SD consumes your carbs.
 
Actualy sd does not really feel that harsh at 10, just that 50mg drol gives you wings in comparison...then again 100-150 mg drol daily is the opposite for most. Meaning, with sd, i feel more poisoned, while on drol i feel energized and fresh...
50mg drol is according to most sites a lesser evil than sd... But no one seems to know for sure

I drink around 6-7 liters of water daily.

Today i actually felt nothing bad sd today for a change...

also eat plenty of carbs. A bit more vascular today in the gym. Nice.

They also have cheap proviron nolva and clomid in turkey. Its really dirt cheap. Less than 10 eu for most stuff. Primo was 6 or 8 euro per ampule. Prices vary a bit. Im going there again this summer, wont be buying anythng , perhaps nolva and clomid, since that is not illigal to bring home.
I have heard some of the bigger pharmas might have sell primo tabs, if i see, i might get tempted .. Shame they dont have anavar or tbol there...that would be awsome...considering the generally low prices there
 
Just to recap, on my 3rd week of PCT , I decided that based on wat my body was telling me that I would need to work on the slight suppression I was feeling. I continue to take cycle support supplements ie (fish oil, vit c, milk thistle, dhea etc.) I added some fenugreek and thinking about throwing in some Hexatest, being that I have out here at *** and it contains some DAA and fenugreek. I cancelled taking Inhibit-E that I had to avoid shutting down even further. I took 2 methyls on straight cycles and have felt the full effects from the sides and I believe in my experience with this pulse that I will do this from now on. I started the pulse at 208 and at week 6 I was up to 223. Now in week 3 of PCT I am down to 217. I have lost very little size but strength is either the same if not a little less then when On cycle. The only complaints I have was the suppresion that started in week 3 and the heart burn I had from the 3rd to 4th week. Next pulse I do I will maybe run a base and pulse with SD.
 
mersberg said:
The only complaints I have was the suppresion that started in week 3 and the heart burn I had from the 3rd to 4th week. Next pulse I do I will maybe run a base and pulse with SD.
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Are you saying SD gives you HEART-BURN? Cause i too have been experiencing heart burn but I thought it was just me!
 
Im new to trying pulsing. I've read a lot about it but was wondering if I ran h-drol for 6 weeks what could I expect by doing a SD pulse during my h-drol cycle?
 
crazzy said:
Im new to trying pulsing. I've read a lot about it but was wondering if I ran h-drol for 6 weeks what could I expect by doing a SD pulse during my h-drol cycle?
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Increased liver stress; stacking methyls is never a good idea imho
 
I listen to my body alot and I pay attention to the cause and effects of things I do and things I take in. Heart burn was definitely felt from week 3 to 4, it stopped after that.It wasn't due to diet, I found a wierd cure for the heart burn, gum, chewing gum does something with the acid. Try it next time you have heart burn. The sides i felt from Methyl 1 Alpha ans 1-AD ranged from very sensitive nipples(no lumps/Gyno) to being very suppressed and having my balls being sucked inside is the best way I can describe it, if I sat wrong , it felt like someone kicked my junk. Once I started PCT everything returned to normal. Gains came quick and left quick, gains from pulsing have been slow but has been easier to keep so far. Pulsing from here on out for me.
 
How many weeks into a pulse do you see any proper gains.

Pulsed anadrol one week, switched to superdol this week... Sides from superdrol just hours after ingestion is slight tenderness upper right abdomen.. Can be gut pain, or liver...on friday i just started itching all over... Went away afew hours later... Feels more like dry skin really..
Not sure my body likes superdrol, but do notice hardening effect, and strength increase already..
Not sure if i should try one more on monday, guessing the sides i feel are more mental than real...
That or switch back to anadrol, felt nothing from those.

Anyway, eod seems better than 3on 4 off i tried the last time.. And no nipple itching keeping the dose in the morning, at just 10mg , might be the fact i also take pes erase
 
Noticed strength gains around the 3rd week at 30mg MWF. Bench went from 315x2 maybe 2 sets to 315x5 for 3 sets. 1 rep max went from 335 to 365.
 
mersberg said:
Noticed strength gains around the 3rd week at 30mg MWF. Bench went from 315x2 maybe 2 sets to 315x5 for 3 sets. 1 rep max went from 335 to 365.
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I havent worked out and dosed since last Sunday. Too busy. Worked out yesterday and dosed 10mgs yesterday, 30 minutes pre workout. I am about 8 weeks into this type of low dose pulsing. I am telling you guys, the gains in strength, vascularity, definition, intensity and size keep coming.

I was lethargic/drained last night but from the intense chest workout I had yesterday, not from the Superdrol.

I also feel the gains are much more keepable this way, from longer, lower dosed pulses. Maybe I'm a good responder to SD but I'd be reluctant to go to 20mgs cause it seems I don't need it.

The results keep building on the previous dose even though several days have passed between doses. Somehow, I feel it accumulates in your system even spread out like this.

As for the heartburn, I'm starting to believe it is the SD as the cause. Not sure till I stop however. I found taking a teaspoon of baking soda and apple cider vinegar mixed in water neutralizes any excess acidity. I heard gum is good too but nut practical at night.
 
I forgot about the lethargy, I had a little in week 2 to 3 but it went away, just added some Jacked and was good to go, also when I took my doses anytime after 4pm libido dropped alot. I work out at night and what worked for me was dosing midmorning and libido still took a hit but not as bad.
 
think i know what causes the itching now... every time i take a milk thistle cap, I start to itch a bit... not take sd for 2 days, but noticed 1-2 hours of itching after taking milk thistle, and just googled it, and that was a common allergic reaction too it...
oh well, will try not using it and see what happes, not that important during a pulse I guess anyway..
 
Alot of supp's side effects is flushing, which is what it sounds like to me. I messed up and took some Niacin testing out the vascularity claims, recommended dose, which I found out after was 125-250mg , well I took one serving of 500mg and let me tell you I was on fire. My skin turned bright red, I broke out in hives around my neck and I couldn't stop itching. Worse experience ever, sides wore off in like 45 minutes but that bottle is still there in cabinet, still full.
 
Currently 6 weeks into a diet from around 18-20% bf to under 12%... Easy diet, no more than around 1lbs per loss per week. Down to 14% now. 10% should be reached in another 4-6 weeks, but not sure I want to go that low.

Using SD 10mg mwf for 1,5 weeks now ... fatloss is bigger than weightloss indicates, and the last few days, I seem to be getting strogner and breaking records, even on a diet . noticed already the first week strength was climbing instead of declining.

No longer anything resembling sides, stopped using milk thistle, and upped omega 3 oils instead..itching gone. also using erase, but now only 1 cap before bedtime, to help boost T during the night. Libido is top notch.

Taking one 10mg at lunch, since training is around 17:00 but seriously considering bumping up to 10 breakfast, and 10 pre workout. But my goal is to use it for a longer period, like atleast 8-10 weeks, perhaps a week off in the middle...

I`ll keep you updated .t
 
woodbear said:
Currently 6 weeks into a diet from around 18-20% bf to under 12%... Easy diet, no more than around 1lbs per loss per week. Down to 14% now. 10% should be reached in another 4-6 weeks, but not sure I want to go that low.

Using SD 10mg mwf for 1,5 weeks now ... fatloss is bigger than weightloss indicates, and the last few days, I seem to be getting strogner and breaking records, even on a diet . noticed already the first week strength was climbing instead of declining.

No longer anything resembling sides, stopped using milk thistle, and upped omega 3 oils instead..itching gone. also using erase, but now only 1 cap before bedtime, to help boost T during the night. Libido is top notch.

Taking one 10mg at lunch, since training is around 17:00 but seriously considering bumping up to 10 breakfast, and 10 pre workout. But my goal is to use it for a longer period, like atleast 8-10 weeks, perhaps a week off in the middle...

I`ll keep you updated .t
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Congrats;
I'm experiencing good things too at 30 mgs per week. I dose 1 hour pre workout. Never tried it 5 hours pre workout. Wonder which is best?
 
New records in strength today too...doubt i ll up the dosing, since i m on a sligth diet anyway... No need to go overboard
I think dosing around lunch or in the morning gives the body time to utilize the sd
Last pulse test, i did 20 mg before workouts, 3days on 4 off for 3 weeks , only thing i got was side effects, and no gains.. On a bulk!
This time i now feel good, and gaining strength when i should really get weaker...
Better gains in strength during is pulse after 1,5 weeks than i got from my entire straight havoc cycle..

Also, i do not just train 3 days a week, i train 6 days, and strenght and pumps are just as good on the non sd days
 
luclyluciano said:
Congrats;
I'm experiencing good things too at 30 mgs per week. I dose 1 hour pre workout. Never tried it 5 hours pre workout. Wonder which is best?
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I always take my dosage 1 hour pre workout, and if I can not take it all at once I take the other half right after I get home from the gym.

I have done 8 week pulses of SD in the past at 30mg EOD. Had very good results and a lot of “uptake of water and glycogen”. Some guys suggested to me not to be afraid to possibly try 40mg. A few days I tried 40mg and it was way too much for me. I still question if 30mg was necessary.

I have done another pulse EOD of SD at 10mg. Within a week I put on 7lbs of “uptake of water and glycogen”. I continued with 10mg for a while. But then I had an extremely good workout so I took another 10mg. Then it seemed every workout was great and I was taking 20mg every pulse. I looked over my stats and right along with increasing 10mg my weight went up another 7lbs. Then I dropped it back to 10mg and within a week I dropped 5lbs.

Next time I’m going to try the 20mg range. I think the 10mg did have value, I also think 30mg may have been excessive for me at least. So I’m going to try to hit it right in the middle next time.

The last pulse I added 1.5 grams of DAA (D-Aspartic Acid) per day, everyday. Then with PCT I used 3 grams of DAA (D-Aspartic Acid) per day, everyday.

You ever have dry joints. I use to snap/crackle/pop during cycle. Well I believe that’s because of such low estrogen.
It is hoped the DAA (D-Aspartic Acid) will help in keeping my testosterone going during the cycle, maybe even up it some and it is hoped to help the pulse. So that I have testosterone and some can convert to estrogen. It seems to be working my joints were better.


Take a look at my progres,, Link --:> Invalid Link Removed
 
Nightowl said:
I am considering pulsing SD 2 days on, at 30mg day, split 15 in the morning 15 mg at night, and skip day, in other words I would take them on training days only, 3 of the 7 days will be off, does this make sense? I am sure it will be strong but my guess is nothing like taking it daily, last summer I ran it 20mg daily for 30 days, stacked with 20mg dymethazine, they strength and gains were incredible. :squareeyed:
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When you say “3 of the 7 days will be off". Does that mean you plan to be ON 4 days a week?
"training days only" do you train for 4 days?

Either way, I have read about 4 day pulses and I remember "reading" Dr D saying that this should be fine but 4 days ON would be about pushing it to the max.

The "split 15 in the morning 15 mg at night". I'm not going to say you can't do this.
But I have always done and always ready to take the entire days dosage within around 2-4hrs give or take.

That if you have say 10mg caps then if you want extra strength for the workout you take 20mg 1hr pre-workout and 10mg post-workout.
But if you want the SD to work more on recovery you take 10mg 1hr pre-workout and 20mg post-workout.

I've tried both ways taking 30mg and it did not make any big difference how I split the dosage. SD is badazz in the first place, the workouts were just great no matter which way I took the 30mg dosage.

Think about taking your dosage as I described above, the idea is that it will clear your system quicker and you will have a larger amount of SD in your system for the workout and recovery when you need it most!!
 
Nightowl said:
Have you considered pulse stacking? 30 mg SD, 30 Epi? on workout days?
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Epi & SD are both methylated.
You would NOT want to take both of these together on the same day, especially at as high a dosage as you are speaking of.

I am considering an 8th pulse EOD (Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday).
Alternating from (20 mg SD M-DROL) to (40 mg Epistane E-Stane) EOD

A pulse alternating from one to the other.
That way two different methylated compounds are not taken together on the say day.

This may sound a little confusing; let me lay our each week so you can see it visually:

Thinking of the following:

###___Tue_____Thur_____Sat
WK01 SD-20mg Epi-40mg SD-20mg
WK02 Epi-40mg SD-20mg Epi-40mg
WK03 SD-20mg Epi-40mg SD-20mg
WK04 Epi-40mg SD-20mg Epi-40mg
WK05 SD-20mg Epi-40mg SD-20mg
WK06 Epi-40mg SD-20mg Epi-40mg
WK07 SD-20mg Epi-40mg SD-20mg
WK08 Epi-40mg SD-20mg Epi-40mg
1.5 grams of DAA (D-Aspartic Acid) per day, everyday.

My hope in alternating from (Superdrol to Epi to Superdrol to Epi, ect) is to reap the benefit of the massive strength gains of Superdrol and also benefit from Epi’s physique recompositioning ability.


Once again, you should not take Epi & SD together on the same day, they are both methylated!
 
I tried 30mg 3-4 days on 3-4 days off , did nothing but give me sides, 10-20mg eod works alot better...

I train 6days a week, strenght gains on the off days are really good too.. Seems like taking in early in the day is better for the day after rebound...so i take nothing post workout
 
woodbear said:
I tried 30mg 3-4 days on 3-4 days off , did nothing but give me sides, 10-20mg eod works alot better...

I train 6days a week, strenght gains on the off days are really good too.. Seems like taking in early in the day is better for the day after rebound...so i take nothing post workout
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I find I agree with middle age guy. I dose 1 hour per-workout, even as I am walking in the gym at times. I find this gets me the best work outs, pumps and recovery. Actually, as of right now I feel 1/2 hour before getsme the craziest strength and wildest pumps and vascularity.
 
Nightowl said:
-You are over exagerating, here IMHO, I did SD-DMZ stack 20mg of each for 30 days, with Trenazone topical last summer, (Like you were superman in 3-4 days it was ****ing incredible!! LOL..Both compounds are methylated. I can see the impact you are refering and also agree with you if your cycling methylated compounds every 8-10 weeks, like 5-6 times a year, Your asking for trouble.
-My only beef with the stack was the 30mg SD, I was concerned that that dosage would be too insane at 30MG daily, therefore the pulse method was being reviewd! BTW.thanks for all your input, it's been great sharing ideas.
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I am not going to advise anybody to take two methylated compounds at the same time, on the same day.

Take a look at this M-Drol Video News Clip .. Link ---:> Invalid Link Removed
From what I understand they were taking two methylated compounds at the same time.

As a matter a fact I don’t want anybody doing something based just on what I say, I’m not giving advice so to say. Just what I’ve experienced. Your body is possibly different from mine. You have to do what you feel is right.

Even if I were to try this, which I am not. I would not advise anybody else to try it!

I want to take a conservative approach. I don’t want yellow skin and yellow eyes telling me I have liver failure.
 
middleageguy said:
I am not going to advise anybody to take two methylated compounds at the same time, on the same day.

Take a look at this M-Drol Video News Clip .. Link ---:> Invalid Link Removed
From what I understand they were taking two methylated compounds at the same time.

As a matter a fact I don’t want anybody doing something based just on what I say, I’m not giving advice so to say. Just what I’ve experienced. Your body is possibly different from mine. You have to do what you feel is right.

Even if I were to try this, which I am not. I would not advise anybody else to try it!

I want to take a conservative approach. I don’t want yellow skin and yellow eyes telling me I have liver failure.
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Interesting you tube vid. They obviously did not know what they were doing. Wonder how much they were taking to turn yellow like that? Yeah, super Drol should have a disclaimer that you could get huge and turn yellow at the same time if you take SD.
 
luclyluciano said:
Interesting you tube vid. They obviously did not know what they were doing. Wonder how much they were taking to turn yellow like that? Yeah, super Drol should have a disclaimer that you could get huge and turn yellow at the same time if you take SD.
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For those here like me that love to pulse........And those that hate it and think it is stupid..........

What are your thoughts to those that are negative on the technique when they say

"PULSING SUCKS BECAUSE OF THE HUGE HORMONE FLUCTUATIONS YOUR BODY GOES THRU,"

What do you think they mean by this, is there any validity to this? Anything to be concerned by these fluctuations? I personally never have experienced anything negative from the fluctuations and have never heard of any science behind this other than bro-science.
 
I think the negativity is said without even trying. I have tried 3 different straight cycles and have had the worst sides with each. Gains came and went quick on all with all the proper steps. Pulsing is the only way for me. I have 4 full bottles of Orig SD,1 full bot of Orig PP and a box of Halo-50. So I got like the next couple of years laid out for pulses. Things I would change is the AI and maybe test booster. Hyperdrolx2 is gone so looking at maybe something with 6-Bro . Will run some DAA (maybe Intimidate) as a Test booster , waiting on reviews first. I still have a bottle of Inhibit-E that I might run alongside phera while On, we'll see how that one goes. Side note: Second week out of PCT and I weigh 214 and have shrunk just slightly, but my strength has remained the same. Vascularity has remained the same if not more. I've added some NO and continue on the Fenugreek. My libido has not completely returned but things are alot better for sure.
 
mersberg PM'ed the pics to me. Is his transformation something or what!! He puts my recomposition/transformation all to shame.

Now mersberg do I remember you writing you did a few straight cycles too?
Has most of your transformation happened during pulse cycles or during straight cycles and how did you feel during these cycles, in general?

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I took some pics week 1 but only thing I could find was summer time @234 lbs. Next wk 4 I was about 217lbs wk9 or 1 wk after PCT @214
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Hey thanks Middle, I did those straight cycles years ago. Last one was 1-AD 7 years ago. The pictures on top were from summer time and I had very little gym time being that I was gone most of the time. I did push ups and sit ups but just enough to pass the physical test we had. I had a month of solid lifting before I started my pulse in December. Results were straight Pulse with a little Oxy Elite Pro. Being a family guy my diet really is what the family eats and I was able to get some cheap EAS protein that was on sale out here. So conditions could have been better for the Pulse but over all I am happy with the results. I have been doing alot of research before doing this pulse and kept putting it off.
Note:I started the Pulse at 208 lbs
 
luclyluciano said:
What are your thoughts to those that are negative on the technique when they say

"PULSING SUCKS BECAUSE OF THE HUGE HORMONE FLUCTUATIONS YOUR BODY GOES THRU,"

What do you think they mean by this, is there any validity to this? Anything to be concerned by these fluctuations? I personally never have experienced anything negative from the fluctuations and have never heard of any science behind this other than bro-science.
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There's validity to it ... but ...

If you were to graph "shutdown" on a regular cycle ... you'd see native testosterone start taking a deep dive on day two or three ... and you'd see it plumet into shutdown territory and stay there for the complete duration of the rest of the cycle - which would be weeks.

By "pulsing" ... you will not see such a deep dive ... you will see a "pulsed" oscillation of hormonal repression followed by rebound. If you continue pulsing though - your body eventually is going to succomb and you'll get shutdown almost as bad as a regular cycle.

But I don't pulse that way. I pulse on M/W/F for a period of two weeks - then take two weeks off - and repeat the M/W/F pulse for two more weeks. It's a six week clean cycle and you're done. And no, you aren't going to get huge off this but you can make gains without trashing your HPTA. It's good for recomp though.

The only "roller coaster" I've ever felt was from estrogen rebound on the off-days, and I took care of that with an A/I, Formestane in the beginning - then Erase, and now Erase Pro. Also key is to try to take the last dose of the day before 4 or 5 pm. If at all possible, you want to clear the compound from your system by the time you go to bed - since most of your test is going to be produced while sleeping.
 
For the record this is my 4th cycle and I'm 34 . I take 1cc/100mg test a week trt. I pmd manbeast yesterday about my experience on SD. Started 10mg ed on 3/6 starting on 3/9 I had a 2 hr moment of feeling like s###, hot, headachy. This repeated it self on 3/10 and 3/11. Mb asured me it was SD. I skipped SD today and felt fine. I want some recommendations on a pulse. Anyway my results so far are I'm 5"11 200 lbs first day and this morning 6 days into run I'm 205 all my muscles feel tight.
 
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