Superdrol Cycle Plan

Trench

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Hi, this is a suggested plan for me whenever I do decide to try a cycle of SD.

Plz give opinions on anything I may have missed or extra.

7-10 days prior, during, post cycle:
RYR
CoQ10
Milk Thistle
Taurine
Glucosamine
Flax Seed Oil
N-Acetyl Cysteine
Hawthorn Berry
Bannas... lol


Post:
Activate
Rebound Xt by UPS Labs
ON Tribulus

Thx.

-Trench
 
I would look into Anabolic Innovation’s Cycle Support for the support supps you list. It really is a no-brainer and cheaper in fact.

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As far as post cycle, you should perform a search regarding superdrol and pct and research some more about what people really recommend. There are countless threads to steer you in the right direction.
 
I was trying to read the posts in the sticky about superdrol in the harshness of orals thread. None of the links for superdrol worked though... Heh.

And actually, I have researched the topic quite a bit.

In fact, I have your excel file in my computer on the cycle that you did. Thats where I got the activate idea as well. Only reason I didn't do that was because I wanted a 3 week, not 4 week on-cycle.

Hey wait a second. How did that cycle go? I never could find your actual log using all that. Did you actually use EVERYTHING in there or did you cut it down a bit? Let me know.

-Trench

Edit: I wanted to add that I dont plan on doing a cycle till around Thanksgiving in November. Currently, I am just eating 24/7 trying the best of my ability to gain but still am in that plateau area. Also, I wanted to ask if someone could provide me a link to that Dr. D PCT suggestion doc. since I have been unable to find it. Lastly, I am interested in the Chaos by Anabolic Innovations, but what supplements would need to be taken on the side if taking the Cycle Support? I already discussed with them the RYR and CoQ10 in which they stated they may or may not add in the future, hopefully, its in the near.
 
Glad you found the file. I am sure it will come in handy for you. I put the cycle off due to work issues but will definitely follow the same plan with the exception that most of those separate support supps will be replaced with the cycle support from Anabolic Innovation.

I am leaning towards a different cycle to begin with but will definitely be bookending the cycle with the superdrol.

BTW, thanks for the reps. Let me know if you have any additional questions.



Trench said:
I was trying to read the posts in the sticky about superdrol in the harshness of orals thread. None of the links for superdrol worked though... Heh.

And actually, I have researched the topic quite a bit.

In fact, I have your excel file in my computer on the cycle that you did. Thats where I got the activate idea as well. Only reason I didn't do that was because I wanted a 3 week, not 4 week on-cycle.

Hey wait a second. How did that cycle go? I never could find your actual log using all that. Did you actually use EVERYTHING in there or did you cut it down a bit? Let me know.

-Trench
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If you update your doc. let me know!! Cause I know you say better safe than sorry, but $200+ is an awful lot for PCT.

And again, where is Doctor D's stuff that everyone talks about?

Thanks for all.

-Trench
 
I set up the pct specifically using Dr D's recommendations.

Trench said:
If you update your doc. let me know!! Cause I know you say better safe than sorry, but $200+ is an awful lot for post cycle therapy.

And again, where is Doctor D's stuff that everyone talks about?

Thanks for all.

-Trench
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here is a link discussing the differences between the two serms and why I chose Tor.

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I dont understand why either are necessary. Rebound XT is an anti-estrogen and the Tribulus will stimulate testosterone production. So how could you get the man boobs if there is no estrogen in your body?

-Trench
 
There is a ton of debate on this. I choose to use it after discussing this through and through with many people and determining the people who later developed man boobs didn't use one in at least 6 out of the 8 cases.... I am torn about using one. Truthfully, it is probably another reason I haven't committed to cycle yet.



Trench said:
I dont understand why either are necessary. Rebound XT is an anti-estrogen and the Tribulus will stimulate testosterone production. So how could you get the man boobs if there is no estrogen in your body?

-Trench
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I just noticed the sig... all I got to say is... LOL! Pure comedy right there.

But dude, superdrol isn't like anabol. It is less potent, less methyl, and quite frankly, less anabolic. Yes, its a roid, but there arent as many sides as some roids out there... but more than others. The way I look at it... the more side effects there are, the more weight and strength you will get out of it... Sort of like drugs. Anything that can kill you will get you high first.

If you take all the deoxidants and such, it should wipe out any of the chances you got anyways. I mean especially the anti-estrogen rebound XT, that should prevent it... Just my opinion though.

I still got some research myself to do on this but again, Im not going to take it for a t least 5 months or so. Whats the expiration on it anyway?? When did you plan on taking it, yourself?

-Trench
 
I appreciate opinions. Bound to learn something from them. I think all of my bottles expire in 2009. I am putting together some additional supps and adding some other gear to the cycle before I begin. Probably Sept.

Trench said:
I just noticed the sig... all I got to say is... LOL! Pure comedy right there.

But dude, superdrol isn't like anabol. It is less potent, less methyl, and quite frankly, less anabolic. Yes, its a roid, but there arent as many sides as some roids out there... but more than others. The way I look at it... the more side effects there are, the more weight and strength you will get out of it... Sort of like drugs. Anything that can kill you will get you high first.

If you take all the deoxidants and such, it should wipe out any of the chances you got anyways. I mean especially the anti-estrogen rebound XT, that should prevent it... Just my opinion though.

I still got some research myself to do on this but again, Im not going to take it for a t least 5 months or so. Whats the expiration on it anyway?? When did you plan on taking it, yourself?

-Trench
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Just be sure to update your excel file. And post a log! One last question man and I'll shut up.

What sorta workout plan you going to do? Like how many days split, reps, and such.

-Trench

p.s. ty for all the great info. Would give mor karma if I could.
 
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Your work out plan is going to be determined by what your main goal is. If you want pure strength, you want a work out geared more towards strength, such as 3X3, dogg crap, or west side. I personally used a conjugate split for my first cycle of superdrol, and gained amazing strength, and added 12 lbs also.
It looked like this:
Mon: Upper Body Chest Emphasis
Tue: Lower Body Quad Emphasis
Wed: OFF
Thur: Upper Body Back Emphasis
Fri: Lower Body Ham Emphasis

I hope this helps. Keeping the rep range at or below 6-8 will give you a lot of strength increase. Another tip is if you want to gain alot of strength, you are goinog to have to give up working out the smaller muscles of your body as much as you are probably used to. Sticking to mostly compound exercises, 2-4 sets is your best bet.
If you are wanting more size than strength, look into HST (Hypertrophy Specific Training) or TUT(Time under Tension.)
This serves as a guide and is by no means all inclusive. No matter what your work out plan is, if you hit the weights hard, and have a sound diet, you are going to gain strength and size while taking superdrol.
P.S. Make sure to drink atleast 1.5 gallons of water a day!
 
Dang, thanks for the info. Your right, I'm going to have a hard time doing that. I'm used to working 2 bodyparts a day usually... And I count calves and quad//ham 2 separate parts.. Not just legs lol. I got plenty of time to get that routine setup. Gotta start reading up on the exercise deals. Westside just sounds gangsta style lol... Water is never a problem for me. No worries here. My main goal is mass... not strength. I dont care if I can only bench 50 lbs... if I could have a massive body, Im happy... I wanna get to 260 some day. I just wanna hit 200 right now cause I've been stuck at 185-190 for the past half a year! Ahhh.
 
No worries Trench. Thanks for the thought though.

I will surely update the file once I commence and have already promised a few people that I will maintain a strict log on the forum.

I am starting the max ot program this week to assess my strength and document the wieghts I can do and will probably will run this program the entire cycle.

Mon - legs
Tues - Bi, tri, forearms, calves
Wednesday - Shoulders, traps
Thursday - back
Friday - chest, calves

10 - 12 sets 4 - 6 reps - no more




Trench said:
Just be sure to update your excel file. And post a log! One last question man and I'll shut up.

What sorta workout plan you going to do? Like how many days split, reps, and such.

-Trench

p.s. ty for all the great info. Would give mor karma if I could.
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Hey, I just finished reading a post on hairloss prevention... lol. You gonna add that too? Dang, there is so much that the stuff can do its not even funny.

Btw, what game is your avatar from? Reminds me of Splinter Cell. And do you got any suggestions for what to take for a post cycle therapy phase thats over-the-counter. I prefer not to risk getting something in the mail that needs a prescription. Hehehe. Superdrol probably gonna get banned soon too.

-Trench

EDIT: reason Im scared of Nolva is that its basically kimo therapy that is given to women patients with cancer of the breasts. I just don't think I'd feel right... I, myself, work in a hospital that has cancer patients and kimo is very deadly itself. Its sole purpose is to kill the cancer cells... but it kills good cells as well as bad cells. Thats just scary to me. Its just a liquid kimo and its just too dangerous IMO. I mean the nurses must wear a special type of glove when administering it to the patient and must be there with the patient throughout the entire treatment because if it can be fatal if administered into the wrong area. Anyways, how does 6-oxo compare?
 
Trench said:
Hey, I just finished reading a post on hairloss prevention... lol. You gonna add that too? Dang, there is so much that the stuff can do its not even funny.

Btw, what game is your avatar from? Reminds me of Splinter Cell. And do you got any suggestions for what to take for a post cycle therapy phase thats over-the-counter. I prefer not to risk getting something in the mail that needs a prescription. Hehehe. Superdrol probably gonna get banned soon too.

-Trench
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It pretty much already is, AX no longer distributes it. Don't want to add any more info as it could have a negative impact.
If you are worried about hairloss, you can buy something for it just in case, but you will probably be fine.

You definately should buy some Nolva, don't be worried about the mail thing. It isn't going to hurt you, you will be fine. It blocks the receptors preventing gyno from developing.
 
AX doesn't distribute probably b/c the government is going to make them quit if they don't decide to do so themselves. Its sad that the only stuff that works... has side effects. Those all-natural anabolics are bs IMO; those are more of a placebo effect if you ask me.

-Trench
 
Trench said:
AX doesn't distribute probably b/c the government is going to make them quit if they don't decide to do so themselves. Its sad that the only stuff that works... has side effects. Those all-natural anabolics are bs IMO; those are more of a placebo effect if you ask me.

-Trench
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I don't know about that, check out some of the jungle warfare logs going on right now. It definatley seems like a solid product.
 
wanted to add that not only is Novadex a kimo therapy drug, but Clomid is a fertility drug for women. Isn't there an herb or something that can be purchased OTC rather than having to get a prescription for a female drug?

-Trench
 
Alright, this is the complete plan now: I want to give credit to Mr. Ronin as I basically stole his plan and made a few changed to it.

1 week prior:
-SS

During 3 week Cycle:
-10mg of superdrol once a day for the entire 3 weeks... no rasing!
-SS
-Fenugreek 610mg
-Policosanol 20mg
-Activate 800mg
-Cissus RX 1225mg

During 3 week post cycle therapy:
-SS
-Fenugreek 610mg
-Policosanol 20mg
-Activate 1600mg
-Cissus RX 1225mg
-Rebound XT by DS 25mg
-Tribulus by ON 600mg


SS=Supplement Stack, consists of:
-Anabolic Innovation's Cycle Support 1 serving
-RYR 1200mg
-Taurine 5g
-Glucosamine 1100mg
-Flaxseed Oil 14g
-Saw Palmetto 320mg
-2 bannanas

Main goals: gain AT LEAST 5 lbs... increase strength by 5%. Max... there is no max lol. Just setting the expectations low.

Was thinking if I was to only take 10mg on a 185-190 lb individual, it should give me quite a boost. I noticed that people who take 20mg+ are more apt to get the bad side effects everyone talks of.

Whats your thoughts on this idea?

-Trench
 
Quick question, why are you using the "Activate 800mg" on cycle?

One last question, would you use the same PCT setup for PP as you would for SD?

I have a SD cycle coming up in a few weeks, my PCT is going to look a bit like this:
(3 weeker)
Nolva - 40/20/20
Rebound XT - 25/50/75
Retain - 1 Tab ED / 2 tabs for weeks 2&3
Milk Thistle 1000mg ED
ActivatE 4 times a day as directed on the bottle.
 
Activate was a suggested add on during cycle by Dr. D. to keep libido intact and it doesn't elevate estrogen.

Tunasandwich said:
Quick question, why are you using the "Activate 800mg" on cycle?

One last question, would you use the same post cycle therapy setup for PP as you would for superdrol?

I have a SD cycle coming up in a few weeks, my PCT is going to look a bit like this:
(3 weeker)
Nolva - 40/20/20
Rebound XT - 25/50/75
Retain - 1 Tab ED / 2 tabs for weeks 2&3
Milk Thistle 1000mg ED
ActivatE 4 times a day as directed on the bottle.
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Trench - avatar is from Splinter Cell. I suggest tori instead of Nolva due to it being less toxic. You will be fine if you follow the protocol. However, I have know people to use 6-oxo during post cycle therapy instead of nolva or tori. If you choose that route, please spend the $40 and have nolva or tori on hand in case you get the itchy nip syndrome. I don't really care about hair loss so I wouldn't even bother.

Trench said:
Hey, I just finished reading a post on hairloss prevention... lol. You gonna add that too? Dang, there is so much that the stuff can do its not even funny.

Btw, what game is your avatar from? Reminds me of Splinter Cell. And do you got any suggestions for what to take for a post cycle therapy phase thats over-the-counter. I prefer not to risk getting something in the mail that needs a prescription. Hehehe. Superdrol probably gonna get banned soon too.

-Trench

EDIT: reason Im scared of Nolva is that its basically kimo therapy that is given to women patients with cancer of the breasts. I just don't think I'd feel right... I, myself, work in a hospital that has cancer patients and kimo is very deadly itself. Its sole purpose is to kill the cancer cells... but it kills good cells as well as bad cells. Thats just scary to me. Its just a liquid kimo and its just too dangerous IMO. I mean the nurses must wear a special type of glove when administering it to the patient and must be there with the patient throughout the entire treatment because if it can be fatal if administered into the wrong area. Anyways, how does 6-oxo compare?
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you need a prescription for those. And if you are unable to get a prescription for something you would normally give to a female gender, it cant be good for the male body I dont think?

Toremifene... whats the price on that and what specific brand are you talking of?

And when I was looking up prices of Nolva, its $120 where I saw it.


-Trench
 
Be careful Trench. Make sure you read this before you write another reply. Hate to see you get banned.

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If you are apprehensive about these types of things you may want to stick with 6-oxo. I don't completely recommend it but like I said I know people whom have had no problems with using the 6-oxo.



Trench said:
you need a prescription for those. And if you are unable to get a prescription for something you would normally give to a female gender, it cant be good for the male body I dont think?

Toremifene... whats the price on that and what specific brand are you talking of?

And when I was looking up prices of Nolva, its $120 where I saw it.


-Trench
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My bad. I wont post the brand I was reading about. But I was reading some information on a specific type of Toremifene from a medical site and it said it actually is not a kimotherapy treatment like Nolva is. It doesn't actually kill any cells. It blocks the estrogen froom reaching the tumors specifically in the breast tissues. So I guess that would be a better choice then Nolva. Cause Nova kills everything, good and bad cells which is why I really don't want to use that.

I guess I cant post where I got this info. from but its from a reliable medical site as I said. I was just curious if it was the same type as what you were talking about. The Toremifene ya know.

Anyways, hopefully they are all created the same. Thanks.

-Trench
 
Trench said:
My bad. I wont post the brand I was reading about. But I was reading some information on a specific type of Toremifene from a medical site and it said it actually is not a kimotherapy treatment like Nolva is. It doesn't actually kill any cells. It blocks the estrogen froom reaching the tumors specifically in the breast tissues. So I guess that would be a better choice then Nolva. Cause Nova kills everything, good and bad cells which is why I really don't want to use that.

I guess I cant post where I got this info. from but its from a reliable medical site as I said. I was just curious if it was the same type as what you were talking about. The Toremifene ya know.

Anyways, hopefully they are all created the same. Thanks.

-Trench
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You need to read up about Nolva & Torm. They are both SERMs and do basically the same thing. Torm is newer and is said to be better for cholesterol because it raises HDL and lowers LDL. I think it is less hepatoxic as well.
 
Well, I problem after problem keeps coming up. It is also known to cause blood clots. So what supplement would be used to counter-act the chance of easily developing blood clots?

-Trench
 
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