Superdrol and 4AD
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CEDeoudes59
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It seems like it's fine. But what causes gyno for one person might not for another person.
Have Nolvadex on hand.
Have Nolvadex on hand.
MacMan
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I am on day 12 of a Superdrol/4AD stack. I started at 20 mgs of SD in divided doses and 200 mgs of 4AD transdermal in the morning and 300 mgs of 4AD oral in the evening. Day 10 I bumped the SD to 30 mgs a day, still in equally divided doses. I am up 11 lbs from 195 to 206 and my bodyfat has decreased 2%.
No real sides to speak of. The first week there was a little lethargy, but not much. Minor prostate swelling causing frequent and slow urination. A little lower back pain on the left side and a little bit of pain near my groin on the left side. All sides subsided the second week. No loss of libido. No testicle shrinkage. No headaches as reported in some other threads.
The only side that bothers me is loss of appetite. I haven't experienced any nausea as some report, but I am just not hungry. I have to force myself to eat. When I am on 1-Test, I want to eat everything in sight.
Most of the gains come the second week. Seems to be very carb dependent, especially simple carbs. Strength increase and recovery is moderately improved, but nothing like I have experienced on 1-Test. Minimal reduction of joint pain, but not nearly as good as MOHN. No painful pumps as some have reported, but do stay pumped for a considerably longer time.
I believe I am a little bloated from the 4AD and am dropping the 300 mgs oral in the evening.
I will likely ad 200 mgs of 1-Test ester in a couple of days and possibly go to 300 mgs depending on sides.
I am extremely impressed with SD so far. Nothing comes close as a lean bulker with virtually no identifiable sides at this point.
I'm so impressed, it makes me want to reconsider adding the 1-Test due to sides I know the 1-Test will cause.
No real sides to speak of. The first week there was a little lethargy, but not much. Minor prostate swelling causing frequent and slow urination. A little lower back pain on the left side and a little bit of pain near my groin on the left side. All sides subsided the second week. No loss of libido. No testicle shrinkage. No headaches as reported in some other threads.
The only side that bothers me is loss of appetite. I haven't experienced any nausea as some report, but I am just not hungry. I have to force myself to eat. When I am on 1-Test, I want to eat everything in sight.
Most of the gains come the second week. Seems to be very carb dependent, especially simple carbs. Strength increase and recovery is moderately improved, but nothing like I have experienced on 1-Test. Minimal reduction of joint pain, but not nearly as good as MOHN. No painful pumps as some have reported, but do stay pumped for a considerably longer time.
I believe I am a little bloated from the 4AD and am dropping the 300 mgs oral in the evening.
I will likely ad 200 mgs of 1-Test ester in a couple of days and possibly go to 300 mgs depending on sides.
I am extremely impressed with SD so far. Nothing comes close as a lean bulker with virtually no identifiable sides at this point.
I'm so impressed, it makes me want to reconsider adding the 1-Test due to sides I know the 1-Test will cause.
tbonz169
New member
I decided on an 8-weeker of 4AD-Cyp. I know i want to run the superdrol with it but should i just run it for 4 weeks during the cycle? I have some M1,4AD and MOHN too, and i could run sort of a "rolling methyl" on top of the 4-AD-cyp. I just dont know whether to start with the M1,4AD for 4 weeks and then finish out with the SD for the last 4 weeks, or use the MOHN somehow. I have arimidex and nolva on hand so the risk of bloat/gyno from the M1,4AD and 4-AD-cyp can be controlled. Any comments or suggestions?
Lean One
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Well IMO, the M1,4ADD on top of 4ADcyp is really gonna put you at risk for progesterone induced gyno as soon as you add SD into the mix. I would leave the M14ADD out. You really won't need it. You could roll the SD/M4OHN 4 wks and 4 wks. I'm thinking The SD would be best used the first 4 weeks then switch to the M4OHN.Or possibly the other way around.tbonz169 said:
MacMan
New member
Just an update to my SD/4AD cycle. Day 16.
I am now up 14 lbs with virtually no noticeable sides. I only ran 30 mgs of SD for two days and then dropped back down to 20 mgs which I have been running throughout the cycle. I didn't like the way I felt at 30 mgs, so just said why risk it and dropped back to the 20 mgs.
Strength is really increasing during the 3rd week of the cycle. Significant increases in all lifts. Personal bests on the bench and squat.
One of the things I have read in other posts, that I concur with, is that I think you have to watch overtraining while on SD. It may be the anticipation of the gains or the SD itself, but overtraining could become an issue.
I am going to add 200 mgs of 1-Test ester starting tomorrow and will run it for the remainder of the cycle.
So far, depending upon what happens during and after PCT, I think SD is almost too good to be true. Love the gains thus far.
I am now up 14 lbs with virtually no noticeable sides. I only ran 30 mgs of SD for two days and then dropped back down to 20 mgs which I have been running throughout the cycle. I didn't like the way I felt at 30 mgs, so just said why risk it and dropped back to the 20 mgs.
Strength is really increasing during the 3rd week of the cycle. Significant increases in all lifts. Personal bests on the bench and squat.
One of the things I have read in other posts, that I concur with, is that I think you have to watch overtraining while on SD. It may be the anticipation of the gains or the SD itself, but overtraining could become an issue.
I am going to add 200 mgs of 1-Test ester starting tomorrow and will run it for the remainder of the cycle.
So far, depending upon what happens during and after PCT, I think SD is almost too good to be true. Love the gains thus far.