superdrol and 1-test

DamianL

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I know there are quite a few supersrol posts already, but I was hoping to get some feedback on my situation. I've been lifting consistently for 3 years now and I've gone from about 135 pounds to about 175 in that time. I've run a short 1-t ether cycle, and a hydroxytest cycle in the past.

I have a bottle of superdrol and a bottle of 1-T ether, and I want to stack these. Given my weight, would you guys recomennd me starting at 10 mgs superd/250 mgs 1-t ether, or just going with 20 mgs superd/250 1-t ether. I plan on running nolva for my pct and wanted to run this cycle about 4 weeks. Let me know if you need any other info about me, and I appreciate any advice. Thanks.

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10 mg of SD is more than enough for you. I'm 200 lb and when I had blood pressure problem on my cycle I lowered SD from 20 to 10 mg and I still was gaining. Also i'm more "experienced" then you. Save some for extra cycle.
 
thanks for the feedback. So would 10 mgs superdrol in the morning, and the 1-t ether in the evening be good times? I don't know the half lives of these in the body, so I imagine that splitting the stack is best.
 
I think the half life of both are less than 12 hours so splitting them would be good. you might want to take the sd before a workout. I hear it helps with energy, endurance... the sd dose sounds good at 10mg.
 
wastedwhiteboy2 said:
you might want to take the sd before a workout. I hear it helps with energy, endurance... the sd dose sounds good at 10mg.
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Add glycogen storage to that list. Also, on training days, you might want to pop the full 20mg SD pre-WO.
 
Lean One said:
Add glycogen storage to that list. Also, on training days, you might want to pop the full 20mg SD pre-WO.
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So you recomennd I go 20 mgs SD pre workout(instead of 10), and the 1-T ether in the morning?
 
DamianL how tall are you?

also - not alot of good feedback on 1-T ether. did that cycle go well?
 
I'm almost 5'10. I only ran the 1-T ether for 3 weeks because it was my first cycle and I jumped into it without proper research. I must say that strength gains came on quickly and were very noticable though. I got a bottle of 250 mg pills right before the ban very cheaply, so I'd like to give it another shot at a proper cycle.
 
I'm not encouraging relative newbies to use Methylated Steroids, but I really don't see 10mg of SD being enough.

After reading Sledge's final draft of Superdrol - I upped my dose to 30mg and have been gaining quite a bit since. I'm (6'1'' 220+)

My findings:
Originally we said Superdrol would be as effective as M1T as 2x the dose. Then we found it's more like 1.666x the dose.

I know M1T and SD are apples to oranges, but the gains are similar.

I'm at 30mg of SD: so that's about ~20mg of M1T (roughly)

Starting at 10mg of SD would be about 6.6mg of M1T.

The starting dose should really be 15-20mg (if your under 200, or have limited anabolic experience). I wouldn't start above... just up the dose if you are eatting a ton - and not gaining.

methinks...
 
DamianL said:
So you recomennd I go 20 mgs SD pre workout(instead of 10), and the 1-T ether in the morning?
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Yes on training days. Load up on the carbs PWO. Dose the 1Tether however you like.
 
DamianL said:
I'm almost 5'10. I only ran the 1-T ether for 3 weeks because it was my first cycle and I jumped into it without proper research. I must say that strength gains came on quickly and were very noticable though. I got a bottle of 250 mg pills right before the ban very cheaply, so I'd like to give it another shot at a proper cycle.
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how many did you take a day? that's a good sized dose for one pill. i've never seen one much over 100mg.
 
For that cycle I was using 100 mg pills, and taking 3 a day. I went through them quickly, and learned that there were better cycles for the money, that why I stopped. I've learned a great deal since then. The bottle I have now, and can continue to get cheaply, are 250 mgs, so I'll just take one a day.
 
I recommended 20mg, because 10mg is ~ 6mg of M1T. In that sort of comparision.
 
KCPreki11 said:
I'm a little confused why we are reccommending 20mg?
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Because 10mg would not give much in the way of size and strength gains and would be a waste of precious Superdrol IMO.
 
Well, I'm pretty sure I already gave you my advice at the gym today :thumbsup:. But I'll post it so others can comment. I have experience with both of these products, and pretty much all the other PH's we've had. Damians not a newbie, but doesn't respond well to the "weaker" products ie hydroxytest. SD has a pretty extensive active life on the system so I'm thinking he could load the first week with 20-30 mgs before tapering down to 10 for maitenece, thats what I've done and I have a very high tolerance. 1-T ether an hour pre-wo for boost, gains will mostly come from SD though.
 
Whats up man. SirEatsalot huh? I like it. Does anyone want to refute this guys advice? I'm anxious to get started.
 
SirEatsalot21 said:
Well, I'm pretty sure I already gave you my advice at the gym today :thumbsup:. But I'll post it so others can comment. I have experience with both of these products, and pretty much all the other PH's we've had. Damians not a newbie, but doesn't respond well to the "weaker" products ie hydroxytest. SD has a pretty extensive active life on the system so I'm thinking he could load the first week with 20-30 mgs before tapering down to 10 for maitenece, thats what I've done and I have a very high tolerance. 1-T ether an hour pre-wo for boost, gains will mostly come from SD though.
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I could see that working. One of the reasons is that IMO, most of the weight gain from SD is from increased Glycogen storage. Also, the effects of SD linger for more than a week after stopping it, so a 10mg maintenance dose could be sufficient to maintain volume. The only thing I would suggest though, is to extend the loading phase to 2 weeks because most of the gains from SD come then and seem to slow down after that. It's actually a pretty good Idea for those bros that want to make their SD last as long as possible.
 
Ok, then I'll test his theory on myself. 20 mgs SD/250 mgs 1T ether for two weeks, then take the SD down to 10 for the remainder of the cycle. Should I split the SD morning/night, or go 20 mgs in the morning? I'll start tomorrow and let you all know how it goes.
 
Take the full 20mg 1hr preWO on training days and spread it out on non training days. Good luck. Keep us posted.
 
Lean One said:
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I could see that working. One of the reasons is that IMO, most of the weight gain from SD is from increased Glycogen storage. Also, the effects of SD linger for more than a week after stopping it, so a 10mg maintenance dose could be sufficient to maintain volume. The only thing I would suggest though, is to extend the loading phase to 2 weeks because most of the gains from SD come then and seem to slow down after that. It's actually a pretty good Idea for those bros that want to make their SD last as long as possible.
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Wow! Praise from Caesar! Maybe I'll change my screen name to Bloated One:sad:. I'm sure Damian would agree. :icon_lol:
 
My only concern with him taking all SD PreWO is that he tends to train at around 6pm, and since we don't know exactly how long the half life is, and most of his calories are consumed before hand, wouldn't we want a morning dose for those potential "glycogen loading properties" that SD has? Also, I've been dosing AM/PM not pwo, and the pumps are sick, don't know how much more intense I'd want it. Maybe 10mgs AM, 10pwo?
 
SirEatsalot21 said:
My only concern with him taking all SD PreWO is that he tends to train at around 6pm, and since we don't know exactly how long the half life is, and most of his calories are consumed before hand, wouldn't we want a morning dose for those potential "glycogen loading properties" that SD has? Also, I've been dosing AM/PM not pwo, and the pumps are sick, don't know how much more intense I'd want it. Maybe 10mgs AM, 10pwo?
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Well, my reasoning is that 80%(don't quote me) of muscle glycogen is replenished the first 10 to 12 hrs post exercise. Also, On paper, SD binds tightly to the receptor, so it doesn't nesesarily matter what plasma halflife is once it locks on to the receptor. Another reason to take it pre WO so the increased pump and bloodflow can deliver the goods to muscle cells.
 
You didnt look that bloated to me. Of course you always wear so many layers in the gym I cant really tell.....

So you recommend 10 mgs and pm, and the 1 T ether pre workout?

edit: good points from both of you. I appreciate the help. Also, is nolva sufficient pct, or would nolva/clomid be better?
 
Hey I like to sweat when I workout, beats the hell out of doin cardio, don't flame me Lean One. Besides I'm really just 125lbs under that sweatshirt, and I just keep buying a bigger one every few months.
I'd say try it Lean One's way with the whole dose PWO, in fact I'll switch my dosing to that too to see if it makes any difference. I haven't gained nearly as much weight as I'd hoped too. I just don't seem to respond to normal doses of anything. Maybe all add 2g of Test/wk to my current cycle.:twisted:
 
DamianL said:
Also, is nolva sufficient pct, or would nolva/clomid be better?
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One or the other would be sufficient. You don't need both. I would go with clomid if you tolerate it well.
 
Last question. So on workout days it would be ok to take 20 ms SD and 250 mgs 1T, all one hour pre workout?
 
I'd say it should be fine, but knowing you you'll down em with 2 bottles of Thermo Hydroxadrine and scare off the 2 hot chicks that workout at our gym:rofl:
 
SirEatsalot21 said:
I'd say it should be fine, but knowing you you'll down em with 2 bottles of Thermo Hydroxadrine and scare off the 2 hot chicks that workout at our gym:rofl:
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Only 2 hot chicks?:blink: Man, you guys need to join another gym.
 
Lean One said:
Only 2 hot chicks?:blink: Man, you guys need to join another gym.
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Dude, you have no idea:frustrate
Of course I have found that I can finish any sesion in 45 minutes this way, and I get easily distracted. Isn't it funny how SD also stands for Sex Drive
 
Just finished my first week on the stack, and things are really going well. I'm taking 10mgs SD in the morning, and 10 mgs SD/250 mgs 1T ether preworkout. Also taking a multi and whey. I'll get back on creatine of some sort with PCT.

All my lifts have gone up and I feel great in the gym. People were even calling me out last night. "are you going to start hitting home runs?". LOL. I've only gained a few pounds, but I look real big and pumped in the gym. No sides at all so far. My right elbow was killing me doing skull crushers last night which is a new thing for me though. I guess I have to stop doing them.
 
KCPreki11 said:
Explain how you do your skullcrushers, might be able to help you. A lot of people do them wrong.
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Hmm. Well Last night was the first time in my 3 years of serious lifting that I've had any pain, and my form hasn't changed, just the weight. I'll try my best to explain.

I bring the bar down a little past my hairline, then press it straight up, keeping my arms parallel to one another. My elbow do not point straight up, but rather a little bit back towards behind me to keep the muscle stressed when its fully contracted. Pretty tough to fully explain without a vid. The pain I felt was at the very tip of my elbow and only in the right arm, but it hurt so bad that I wrapped things up after like 6 reps. Tried it again after warming up some more with even less weight and it still hurt.
 
It might just be a one time occurrence, but if it keeps happening i've often seen people reccommending to bring the bar down so the middle of it skims the top of your hair.
 
Yea, skimming my hair is about what I do. Other people bring it to their eyebrows or so, but I take it back further.

Also, the wood with this stack is a problem. ANy decent chick walks by my desk at work and I'm at attention.
 
It's day 15, and I'm trying to decide if I want to continue at 20 mgs SD for another 15 days, or cut it back to 10 mgs, in order to have enough left for another similar cycle.

Gains have been great, but if they are going to level off regardless of dosage, I'd rather have enough left to do it again.
 
I am on first week of PCT of a cycle using 20 mgs SD for the first 3 weeks, adding 300 mgs of 1-Test ester the 4th week and dropping the SD to 10 mgs a day, then eliminating the SD for week 5, while continuing to run the 300 mgs of 1-Test ester. I was also running 200 mgs of 4-AD transdermal the entire cycle.

I gained approximately 16 lbs during the cycle and my bodyfat remained relatively unchanged. Almost all gains came while on the SD alone, and I don't believe the 1-Test ester, actually added anything. It may have helped if I had run it longer, but I was experiencing significant sides associated with it and thought it wasn't worth continuing.

I am on my 4th day of PCT using Nolva, Clomid, 6-OXO, and Vitrix. I have already dropped 4 lbs of my gains, during PCT. I believe a lot of the loss was water. My second day of PCT it seemed like I urinated 3 or 4 gallons throughout the course of the day. Losses seem to have slowed or stopped, and I think I will be left with a 10 to 12 lb gain of lbm. Additionally, I already feel significantly recovered, although the first 3 days were worse than I thought they would be.

In my opinion, running SD and 1-Test together does not work well. I believe SD attaches to and maintains receptor sites so strongly, that stacking it is really a waste. I think you will increase the chance of sides and not realize any significant gains by stacking.

SD is by far the best prohormone/prosteroid I have tried in terms of sides and gains.
 
Thanks for the post. I had it on hand, so I decided to throw it in. I haven't had any sides at all so far. I'm adding CEE today as well.
 
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