Super Phenibut

MrBigPR said:
We changed sources months ago...nothing but the best for nutra customers :thumbsup:
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Is the fluffy baby powder still the correct, pure stereoisomer ?

I thought the stereoselective stuff was always sold in crystalline form.

Don't have a polarimeter at hand to check the specific rotation. Maybe I'll find one. Anybody got the correct numbers? Of course any rotation will indicate it's not a racemate.
 
I used phenibut a few times back in 2003. It was pretty good stuff. It was from 1fast400 back then though. They used to have a lot of good bulk stuff. Not anymore though since the original owner left.
 
John Smeton said:
This stuff is good Ive been using it once a week, sometimes less, for a while now.
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Hey John, just ordered some of the Super Phenibut for my son. He suffers from Social Anxiety....I though super pheni was good for this. What do u think? Could it possibly work for Anxiety and is it safe for an 18 year old with extreme shyness? He has expressed how much he loosens up with alchohol but obviously he and I do not want to get him into drinking.
 
luclyluciano said:
Hey John, just ordered some of the Super Phenibut for my son. He suffers from Social Anxiety....I though super pheni was good for this. What do u think? Could it possibly work for Anxiety and is it safe for an 18 year old with extreme shyness? He has expressed how much he loosens up with alchohol but obviously he and I do not want to get him into drinking.
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Not in my opinion. phenibut needs to be used once , twice a week at most,. Tolerance builds up fast and there have been numerous stories of guys who got on and when they got off they have severe withdrawal symptoms.

I think he needs to start approaching people and maybe goal a goal of approaching 25 strangers or something like to help help him get over his social shyness. He will sweat and feel uncomfortable at first but if he does the work hell get over it.
 
John Smeton said:
Not in my opinion. phenibut needs to be used once , twice a week at most,. Tolerance builds up fast and there have been numerous stories of guys who got on and when they got off they have severe withdrawal symptoms.

I think he needs to start approaching people and maybe goal a goal of approaching 25 strangers or something like to help help him get over his social shyness. He will sweat and feel uncomfortable at first but if he does the work hell get over it.
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Great advise.

I love this stuff, but would not recommend it for a teenager.
 
luclyluciano said:
Any scientific reason why? Docs would gladly put him on scripted drugs if we let them. Why not pheni?
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because drugs really are not the answer in my opinion. Sure, sometimes they help and are needed, most of the time though a person can overcome challenges with their mind and by going out and conquering what it is they are having situations with.
 
luclyluciano said:
Any scientific reason why? Docs would gladly put him on scripted drugs if we let them. Why not pheni?
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Of course they would. A lot of doc's get kickbacks for writing scripts. They wouldn't think twice. Just because they have a "Dr" before their name, doesn't mean they have your absolute best interest in mind.

Pheni can easily be abused.
And if too much is dosed, you can experience some pretty harsh side effects, withdrawals, wicked hangovers, etc. Tolerance builds quickly. pretty soon dosage's creep up. I've been using Pheni for a long time. I never felt the way I did, when I first started using it.
 
blind12 said:
Is the fluffy baby powder still the correct, pure stereoisomer ?

I thought the stereoselective stuff was always sold in crystalline form.

Don't have a polarimeter at hand to check the specific rotation. Maybe I'll find one. Anybody got the correct numbers? Of course any rotation will indicate it's not a racemate.
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Re: social anxiety - you cannot use pheni regularly. I think social anxiety arises from issues in the oxytocin system, besides GABA system etc. Time-released vitamin C, 3-5g/day is supposed to improve oxytocin levels and reduce anciety.

I've heard phenibut is just a pale shadow of another GABA system agent, GHB, which is much better against anxiety and doesn't have such tolerance issues. Unfortunately it is also illegal these days.
 
phenibut is great for anxiety, it beats out Ghb imo due to its long lasting anxiety relief...

as for using phenibut for social anxiety id say no..like others have said, phenibut can only be used 2-3 times a week tops...more than that and u will run into problems..your son is better off seeing an expert in that field or possibly trying out something like Nardil IF he can get that scribed to him..most often doctors will scribe you 4-5 garbage ssris that do nothing before u get any real help..

such a pity Ghb is illegal..
 
while your on this subject I truly believe mental relaxation, taking mini vacations in my mind helps me so much before and after an "anxious" event.

More of this is in a chapter in the book "psycho-cybernetics" by Maxwell Maltz
 
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