Super Mandro (1-Andro) Cycle - Thoughts?

Still mulling this cycle over. Now that I was able to get a solo DMZ (alpha labs), I'm considering running that instead of the SDMZ 2.0, and saving the SDMZ 2.0 for my third or fourth cycle.

Also, I'm hoping OL releases their Andro line before I plan on running this cycle. I'd like to try both Super Mandro and OL's 1-Andro. I'm sure both are killer products though.
 
Here's my latest iteration of the cycle. I decided to take the DMZ out of the plan and replace with LGD, but I suppose I could add DMZ in for the last 4 weeks if I felt the cycle wasn't panning out.

Cycle - 8 Weeks
HRS Super Mandro: 3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3 (1 taken with Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner)
HRS Andro the Giant: 3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3 (1 taken with Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner)
OL Legend: 1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1
OL Ar1micare Pro: 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8 (4 pills AM, 4 pills PM)
Pura D'or shampoo
Arimidex on hand (in case Ar1micare's AI's aren't enough for the 4-Andro)

PCT - 35 Days
Clomid: 50/50/25/25/0
Aromasin: 0/0/12.5/12.5/6.25
Sup3r PCT (old): 4/3/2/2/0
Iron Labs Cycle Support: 4/4/4/4/4 (2 pills AM, 2 pills PM)
OL LJ100 (5 days on, 2 days off)
OL Ep1c (2 pills preworkout, 1 pill on rest days, continue post PCT until next cycle)

General Support - Throughout cycle and PCT
Multivitamin, D3, Fish Oil, Garlic, Taurine
 
Looks like a solid cycle to me. You have obviously done a ton of research to plan this out. I can't comment on the lgd as I don't have much knowledge about it. All I know is that it seems to be a nice bulker. So if your wanting to bulk up, seems the right thing to do. Although I'm not sure if keeping the same dosage for all of these throughout the 8 weeks will continue to give you gains towards the end. You might have to bump up the dosage of some. But obviously you have to see how you react.
I personally started my first cycle ever of Mandro and androvar today. Taking 3 pills throughout. Planning on doing it for 6-8 weeks. Might end up bumping up the Mandro dosage midway through if I feel like 3 isn't cutting it.
 
Usually you won't need to change dosages for 8 weeks you might ramp up to see if you have sides. But think of most injectable cycles they stay same dosage for entire cycle if your body is plateauing that quick into a cycle something else is wrong
 
mixedup said:
Usually you won't need to change dosages for 8 weeks you might ramp up to see if you have sides. But think of most injectable cycles they stay same dosage for entire cycle if your body is plateauing that quick into a cycle something else is wrong
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ahh. it makes sense actually. thanks for the input. i will probably make it a 8 week cycle with 300mg dosage then
 
ZackD89 said:
Here's my latest iteration of the cycle. I decided to take the DMZ out of the plan and replace with LGD, but I suppose I could add DMZ in for the last 4 weeks if I felt the cycle wasn't panning out.

Cycle - 8 Weeks
HRS Super Mandro: 3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3 (1 taken with Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner)
HRS Andro the Giant: 3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3 (1 taken with Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner)
OL Legend: 1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1
OL Ar1micare Pro: 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8 (4 pills AM, 4 pills PM)
Pura D'or shampoo
Arimidex on hand (in case Ar1micare's AI's aren't enough for the 4-Andro)

PCT - 35 Days
Clomid: 50/50/25/25/0
Aromasin: 0/0/12.5/12.5/6.25
Sup3r PCT (old): 4/3/2/2/0
Iron Labs Cycle Support: 4/4/4/4/4 (2 pills AM, 2 pills PM)
OL LJ100 (5 days on, 2 days off)
OL Ep1c (2 pills preworkout, 1 pill on rest days, continue post PCT until next cycle)

General Support - Throughout cycle and PCT
Multivitamin, D3, Fish Oil, Garlic, Taurine
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when you runnin this son.
 
highlander31 said:
when you runnin this son.
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Haha, fair question. Running it in September. Meeting with my doctor in August to get my blood work done. Will confirm that I was back to normal after Epistane + PCT.

Currently I'm cutting with EC, MK-677, Raloxifene (last bit of pubertal gyno), Tadalafil and Ep1c unleashed. Will keep that going until about the start of August, then give my body a few weeks without any fun stuff before seeing my doc and then starting this Andro bulk.
 
ZackD89 said:
Haha, fair question. Running it in September. Meeting with my doctor in August to get my blood work done. Will confirm that I was back to normal after Epistane + PCT.

Currently I'm cutting with EC, MK-677, Raloxifene (last bit of pubertal gyno), Tadalafil and Ep1c unleashed. Will keep that going until about the start of August, then give my body a few weeks without any fun stuff before seeing my doc and then starting this Andro bulk.
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Couple of questions.
How was your Epistane cycle?

And what exactly did you do for pubertal gyno and did it work? The reason I'm asking this is because I have pubertal gyno as well. I had lump when it came it but the lump has been gone since then but there's just too much extra fatty tissue around the nipple area.
 
demonfox said:
Couple of questions.
How was your Epistane cycle?

And what exactly did you do for pubertal gyno and did it work? The reason I'm asking this is because I have pubertal gyno as well. I had lump when it came it but the lump has been gone since then but there's just too much extra fatty tissue around the nipple area.
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Epistane is what helped me with most of my pubertal gyno. Overall, the cycle was a mixed bag. It will shut you down of course. I ran it with Stano-Shred at 600 mg per day, but wish I had used 800-1000 mg. Real testosterone would obviously be best, but I can't risk the illegality with my career. My temper got worse and I had depression--almost felt like the glass of life had been cracked if that makes any sense. But I also had moments of feeling very alpha and fun-loving. The gains were decent, but I don't think I hit the gym enough to truly take advantage (probably 3x per week). When I did, I got crazy pumps and could put up more weight. However, my PCT was solid and I continued to make gains, and now hit the gym 5-6 times per week. My friends have been commenting that I look more defined and muscular than ever before. I feel that Epistane is a solid compound, and I took it seriously, but not seriously enough.
 
ZackD89 said:
Epistane is what helped me with most of my pubertal gyno. Overall, the cycle was a mixed bag. It will shut you down of course. I ran it with Stano-Shred at 600 mg per day, but wish I had used 800-1000 mg. Real testosterone would obviously be best, but I can't risk the illegality with my career. My temper got worse and I had depression--almost felt like the glass of life had been cracked if that makes any sense. But I also had moments of feeling very alpha and fun-loving. The gains were decent, but I don't think I hit the gym enough to truly take advantage (probably 3x per week). When I did, I got crazy pumps and could put up more weight. However, my PCT was solid and I continued to make gains, and now hit the gym 5-6 times per week. My friends have been commenting that I look more defined and muscular than ever before. I feel that Epistane is a solid compound, and I took it seriously, but not seriously enough.
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hmm. I think the Epistane lowered your estrogen too much which is why you had that emotional roller coaster
I was thinking to do an Epistane cycle in like 3 or 4 months as my second cycle. In fact I already have the Epistane on hand. I was hoping that it would reduce my pubertal gyno and I will be able to make some gains off of it as well.
What was your Epistane dosage?
 
demonfox said:
hmm. I think the Epistane lowered your estrogen too much which is why you had that emotional roller coaster
I was thinking to do an Epistane cycle in like 3 or 4 months as my second cycle. In fact I already have the Epistane on hand. I was hoping that it would reduce my pubertal gyno and I will be able to make some gains off of it as well.
What was your Epistane dosage?
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Interesting, maybe it did. I ran it at 30/40/40/40/40/50. Maybe I should've been more conservative and stuck to 30.
 
Got my blood drawn yesterday. Looks like my levels are back to normal.

Total Testosterone: 511 ng/dL
SHBG: 39 nmol/L
LH: 3.9 IU/L
FSH: 4.9 IU/L

I have an appointment with my urologist to go over the results, but since it's all within normal ranges (although lower than I'd like at 26), I don't think I'll be getting prescription Test or anything. My Test was actually mildly lower (about 480) before I ever tried a PH/DS.
 
ZackD89 said:
Got my blood drawn yesterday. Looks like my levels are back to normal.

Total Testosterone: 511 ng/dL
SHBG: 39 nmol/L
LH: 3.9 IU/L
FSH: 4.9 IU/L

I have an appointment with my urologist to go over the results, but since it's all within normal ranges (although lower than I'd like at 26), I don't think I'll be getting prescription Test or anything. My Test was actually mildly lower (about 480) before I ever tried a PH/DS.
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Looking forward to your log
 
Planning on running a cycle of Super Mandro in 2 or 3 weeks. Just wondering if anyone, or any strongsupplementshop reps can tell me if the beginner bulk stack that's sold on StrongSupp contains enough in terms of cycle support (ProteX Cycle Assist and Liver Protection by Vital Labs) and PCT (Post Cycle 3X by Vital Labs) to completely safegaurd you?? Want to get everything in order soon as I can to get this on the road. Wondering if OTC PCT's will be sufficient and why OP changed from Dermacrine to Andro The Giant?? What are you using to combat Est?? Thanks in advance :D
 
Shaner091 said:
Planning on running a cycle of Super Mandro in 2 or 3 weeks. Just wondering if anyone, or any strongsupplementshop reps can tell me if the beginner bulk stack that's sold on StrongSupp contains enough in terms of cycle support (ProteX Cycle Assist and Liver Protection by Vital Labs) and PCT (Post Cycle 3X by Vital Labs) to completely safegaurd you?? Want to get everything in order soon as I can to get this on the road. Wondering if OTC PCT's will be sufficient and why OP changed from Dermacrine to Andro The Giant?? What are you using to combat Est?? Thanks in advance :D
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I decided to use 4-Andro since it actually is supposed to convert to Testosterone, whereas Dermacrine just has other stuff that will essentially help mask shutdown symptoms.

You should definitely use a SERM in PCT.

I am in the Ostarine phase now, and was using Arimidex. Had to use Arimistane for a few days since I was traveling though. No real high estro sides, but the Adex is low (0.25 mg E3D) so no negative crashed estro sides either.
 
Thanks for the reply OP. Still trying to get my head around a load of this **** :/ good to get advice from someone who has ran the same cycle though!! How did you get on PCT?? Were the gains sustainable?? Any chance you could message me on your final stack?? Be nice to see it laid out and get a better idea of what actually worked 100% for somebody.

Thanks :)
 
Super mandro is some good stuff for sure. The options on the website are very good but you still need to go ahead and add a serm in addition to those products in pct.

As far as gains they're very keepable-depends on diet and training but 6-8lbs of muscle is the norm. Let us know if you have anymore questions.
 
Shaner091 said:
Thanks for the reply OP. Still trying to get my head around a load of this **** :/ good to get advice from someone who has ran the same cycle though!! How did you get on PCT?? Were the gains sustainable?? Any chance you could message me on your final stack?? Be nice to see it laid out and get a better idea of what actually worked 100% for somebody.

Thanks :)
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I haven't run the Andros yet. I'm doing Ostarine for 4 weeks, then beginning the Andros (and continuing the Osta for 2 more weeks). I have a log up in the cycle info section. Check it out and LMK if you have any further questions!
 
Nice one OP will check that out :) Been thinking about running that after some recommendations too
 
I just started running dermatrest and transdermal max lmg and super Mandro. What kind of results can I expect. Have raloxifene and p-5-p also running. Thanks
 
TheRel33 said:
I just started running dermatrest and transdermal max lmg and super Mandro. What kind of results can I expect. Have raloxifene and p-5-p also running. Thanks
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I am running Dermatrest and Super Mandro, along with Andro the Giant and LGD. The cycle is going very well. Check out my log thread if you're interested.

I don't know about Max LMG at all. I'd recommend you make your own thread to get some answers, and post specific doses.
 
If the cycle is 8 weeks are you still okay taking a 30 day pct? I just picked this stack up and am running it next month
 
Ddevine7 said:
If the cycle is 8 weeks are you still okay taking a 30 day pct? I just picked this stack up and am running it next month
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4 weeks of serm with other products are fine after an 8 week run.
 
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