Super-Drol and Mega-Zol

Highlanda01602

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I'm planning out a Superdrol cycle, and I'm considering stacking Mega-Zol with the cycle. I've heard good things about it, and I would like to try it. One main benefit of Mega-Zol, at least that what I have read, is that it gets you really moving in the gym.

My dosages would be fairly low, starting at 50 and progressing up to 100 for week 2 and maybe progressing to 150 for week 4, the final week of the cycle.

I will have pre-cycle and on-cycle protection of course, mainly through AX Perfect Cycle, and through HB and cholesteral supplements. PCT will contain Nolva and Rebound XT as a AI as well.


Notable things I may add: This is a cycle designed for strength, but I don't want to put on too much fat. I put on a lot of fat on my last cycle (gained 20 pounds) cause I just ate EVERYTHING I could get my hands on. By the time I do this cycle I will be under 10 percent body fat, or at least very close to that.
I have posted a similiar cycle in a different thread, and some members told me since SD gains are dry, that Mega-Zol was unceccesary.
Thanks
 
I feel sorry for your joints if you do.:rant: Try Mtrn w/Mzol if you are trying to do a lean bulk, strength cycle.
 
matt212 said:
I feel sorry for your joints if you do.:rant: Try Mtrn w/Mzol if you are trying to do a lean bulk, strength cycle.
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Hey..... interesting...

Why do you say that? Have not heard much on joint issues from SD and can't find a lot of information about Mega-Zol being different from Prostanozol... which also I have not heard about joint issues...

How come you recommend that cycle?

And thanks bro
 
Highlanda01602 said:
Hey..... interesting...

Why do you say that? Have not heard much on joint issues from SD and can't find a lot of information about Mega-Zol being different from Prostanozol... which also I have not heard about joint issues...

How come you recommend that cycle?

And thanks bro
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Alright, put your thinking cap, because I know had to put mine on, so get ready. Not really hard to understand, but I'm just long winded. So here we go.

Well, let me rephrase that, I felt sorry for my joints when I added Pros. I was doing a SD/Emax/Pros. stack, and notice something when I added Pros. While on the SD/Pro, my knees and elbows were killing me. Then when the Emax week came, everything was cool. :blink:

This is why I recommend this stack. Mtrn/Mzol = SD(x2). Let me try and explain. The strength gains of Mtrn far outweighs the strength gains of SD(from my experience). SD will give you dry gains, but Mzol will give you dryness and hardness. SD shouldn't bloat you, and Mtrn will give you quality lean mass gains thats easy to hold on to during PCT. Recovery with Mtrn was also alot better. And the number one reason, both Mtrn and Mzol are not methylated.:D

You could essentially stack Mzol w/ masteron or tren and both would be a good stack. But I just finished a Mtrn/PP/Mzol stack and that was so far the best cycle I've done. Between the SD/Emax/Pros and the Mtrn/PP/Mzol, the Mtrn stack was double the strength gains of the SD stack without the sides of SD. No lethargy, no joint problems or no problems of motivation getting to the gym and even lost some fat. So the only difference from the recommended cycle above and thet one I just finished is that the PP added some mass along with it. That's just my $.02 though. Somebody correct me if they have another way of looking at this. I might be missing something.
 
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matt212 said:
Alright, put your thinking cap, because I know had to put mine on, so get ready. Not really hard to understand, but I'm just long winded. So here we go.

Well, let me rephrase that, I felt sorry for my joints when I added Pros. I was doing a SD/Emax/Pros. stack, and notice something when I added Pros. While on the SD/Pro, my knees and elbows were killing me. Then when the Emax week came, everything was cool. :blink:

This is why I recommend this stack. Mtrn/Mzol = SD(x2). Let me try and explain. The strength gains of Mtrn far outweighs the strength gains of SD(from my experience). SD will give you dry gains, but Mzol will give you dryness and hardness. SD shouldn't bloat you, and Mtrn will give you quality lean mass gains thats easy to hold on to during PCT. Recovery with Mtrn was also alot better. And the number one reason, both Mtrn and Mzol are not methylated.:D

You could essentially stack Mzol w/ masteron or tren and both would be a good stack. But I just finished a Mtrn/PP/Mzol stack and that was so far the best cycle I've done. Between the SD/Emax/Pros and the Mtrn/PP/Mzol, the Mtrn stack was double the strength gains of the SD stack without the sides of SD. No lethargy, no joint problems or no problems of motivation getting to the gym and even lost some fat. So the only difference from the recommended cycle above and thet one I just finished is that the PP added some mass along with it. That's just my $.02 though. Somebody correct me if they have another way of looking at this. I might be missing something.
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Thanks for the info man... its appreciated
thanks again bro

heres kind of a side question - does mzol gives a signifigant increase in strength on these sort of cycles? ive read numerous times how it is a "hardening" agent, but that doesn't necessarily mean strength....
 
Highlanda01602 said:
heres kind of a side question - does mzol gives a signifigant increase in strength on these sort of cycles? ive read numerous times how it is a "hardening" agent, but that doesn't necessarily mean strength....
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I couldn't tell if Mzol contributed any strength gains because the Mtrn gains overshadowed Mzol. But I can tell you that its excellent for hardening while on these sort of cycles. I was doing Mtrn/PP each day and making some serious strength and mass gains, but when I added Mzol, I started to get harder and more cut.
 
Would it be overkill to try...... SD AND mtrn?

I can't find any cycles of those two combined... possibly because it might be overdoing it.. just a thought
the reason im interested in that is because ive lost pretty much ALL interest in mzol now.... my goals are not to become cut or anything really like that but to get stronger
 
Highlanda01602 said:
Would it be overkill to try...... SD AND mtrn?

I can't find any cycles of those two combined... possibly because it might be overdoing it.. just a thought
the reason im interested in that is because ive lost pretty much ALL interest in mzol now.... my goals are not to become cut or anything really like that but to get stronger
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Never really thought about that one.:think: If you do that one, make sure you keep a log. I'm sure somebody else thought about it, but was scared to ask. You should be able to tell a difference if you have ran a prior SD cycle before, so....

But I'm thinking it would be overkill to a certain extent, but I know Mtrn will give better strength over SD (from my experience).
 
matt212 said:
Never really thought about that one.:think: If you do that one, make sure you keep a log. I'm sure somebody else thought about it, but was scared to ask. You should be able to tell a difference if you have ran a prior SD cycle before, so....

But I'm thinking it would be overkill to a certain extent, but I know Mtrn will give better strength over SD (from my experience).
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Cool man, I'll definetly keep a log if I indeed choose that route. I'm gunna further research it, but I might give it a try. I might overlap it similiar to how AX recommends stacking SD and PP, even though mtrn is not methylated (maybe both compounds would have better effects, in terms of net gains, if run separately in a 8 week cycle.

Again thanks for the help man, it's already made a huge positive difference in my plans for this upcoming cycle.
 
It wouldn't really be overkill IMO. M-TRN is non-methylated, but it does contain methoxy groups. Either way, I think it'd be easier on the liver than stacking 2 methyls like PP/SD.

In other words, I think you're in the clear if you use the proper support supps.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
You should try running the TRN 1-6 and the SD 1-3
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That was something I was considering doing.... I've stacked Finigenx and PP before, but instead I had the stack begin from weeks 3-7. Is there reason to have the stack begin in the beggining of the cycle? Wouldn't that cause diminishing returns after the SD is dropped? Maybe so much that it won't really yield gains?

I've just never run a cycle that way... is it more beneficial than say trn 1-6 sd 3-6?
 
Tren and by virture TRN, isn't really used as a mass gainer. That's why I would place SD at the front to gain the majority of the size on the cycle and finishing up with TRN would theoretically solidify your gains, leading you into PCT with possibly more managable post-PCT LBM
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Tren and by virture TRN, isn't really used as a mass gainer. That's why I would place SD at the front to gain the majority of the size on the cycle and finishing up with TRN would theoretically solidify your gains, leading you into PCT with possibly more managable post-PCT LBM
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I was thinking along the same thing but, highlands says he is really just looking for strength. That's why I said it may be overkill for SD and TRN. If SD and TRN were at the starting line competing in the market of strength, TRN will win hands down.:run: True, SD will give you some mass gains and TRN will solidify them, but that is not what he's looking for based on his first post. Not unless he changed his mind.:think:
 
Ohh yeah, I forgot he was going purely strength, sorry..Yeah in that case I would stick with the TRN..I'm sure stacking them would yield even better results, but if you can get the job done with one compound, no point in introducing another..
 
No, I would never change my mind! I'm of course only doing this cycle for strength, BUT I am still considering using both these compounds in a cycle for increased gains...

Instead of running mtrn 1-6 and SD 1-3, would it be beneficial to run SD 1-4 and mtrn 3-6? Or SD 1-3 mtrn 2-5/6?
I'm considering overlapping them, such as what I've seen in AX SD/PP cycles, where they bridge the two, but I'm not sure if that's necessary.

So you think that would work? Doing the bridge thing? Or do you think that after the SD part that the mtrn wouldn't work as well, for strength gains...

I'm not ready to jump into a stack like this, but I am considering it and I have a while to consider it.

Thanks again for the help
 
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