Sumo deadlift Ground

Tabascoonall

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Hey guys,

Squat and bench are no problem actually just hit a PR of 275 on flat bench at 147lb. anyways you have any tips for speed of the ground? I pull sumo and once i get it above or mid shin i can crank it out but the initial pull is giving me problems. I think it might have to do with staying tight but i am not sure.

Thanks guys and GO PATS
 
Hey guys, Squat and bench are no problem actually just hit a PR of 275 on flat bench at 147lb. anyways you have any tips for speed of the ground? I pull sumo and once i get it above or mid shin i can crank it out but the initial pull is giving me problems. I think it might have to do with staying tight but i am not sure. Thanks guys and GO PATS
I was going to offer advice until I saw the "go Pats".

Just kidding. I am interested in what people say. I am thinking of starting to deadlift sumo style
 
I feel more comfortable in sumo, its worth the switch, to me its a little less pain on the back
 
Ultra-wide sumo will be faster off the ground but harder to *******. 'Normal' width sumo will be slow off the ground but easier to *******.

IMO, just getting stronger hips is going to help the most, as that's where the pull is initiated.
 
hahahah well can you help me on monday then?

haha.

What you are finding is very common in my experience since the pull from the ground is the hardest. When I first started, it helped a lot to not have a very wide stance until I built up my hip strength and explosiveness. As it built, I could start widening my stance. Second, I find that the angle your toes are pointing is important as too far "duck" stance puts a lot of pressure on the insides of your knees and makes it harder than moving them in more. Not straight ahead, but not severe.

Another thing is that I think the sumo is best for people with shorter legs since you can get your hips closer to the bar. I love sumos, but may be on the outer edge of being able to pull well do to leg length. This is only my feeling, but generally I see guys that are "squattier" being better at them.

I believe it is Rodja that has big pulls on here. I've worked up to reps at 425, so by no means an expert in real heavy weight, but not bad either, imo.
 
Video would be best. I know I've seen one of yours way in the past, but take a new one with like 90% of your max for a couple doubles and we'll be better able to see what you need. EDIT: the two guys ahead of me got you off to a good start, though. Remember to spread the floor and fall back to get the weight moving.
 
I have a AMRAP set this upcoming friday. or i can film monday but thats only 305 4x3. So i guess ill film that. The comfortable stance for me is having my feet in the smooth part in-between the knurling, like where you put your pink our ring finger when benching. SO maybe the is to wide for me? but i will have a video posted on monday for you guys.
 
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And btw GO PATS!!!
 
Hey guys heres my video of 225 just to show form. i didn't know what camera angle to film. my next dedlift day is friday if you want a different angle just tell me.
[video=youtube;K8YmLtgU5aE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8YmLtgU5aE&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 
Your shoulders are too forward IMO and you have a forward shin lean. Drive your knees outward and pull your hips in. Plus, when I'm properly setup with 225, the bar is an inch off the ground almost. Maybe add something around 80% to show us.
 
You're out of position from the beginning. You need to focus on pulling tension on the bar to set up and then pulling the bar towards you. Like a sumo squat, you should be spreading the floor with shoes with your lats locked and slight scap depression.
 
Ok thank you guys, I'm taking notes and will transfer all of this to next deadlift session. Really helpful guys thanks
 
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