Summer AAS cycle

Willy617

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Been a long time since I have posted on here. Anyways I have aged a little bit since my last post and have developed my training program more to the point where most new PH cycles don't do much at all for me besides a little strength kicker so I've decided to quit killing my liver as much with PHs and going to AAS

I have some competition goals for myself both in the strength category of lifting and some that are not lifting related at all but more sports related that I am trying to accomplish.

I am trying to cut some bf while still gaining some much needed weight as I have been trying to cut down for the past 5 months

Right now I weigh 175 and am 11% bf I'd like to be at 190 and 9% bf

I am thinking about running
1-16 Test E 500mg/wk
10-16 winstrol 75mg/day
1-16 arimidex
16-20 nolvadex 20,20,15,10
16-20 test booster

My question is I am gyno prone so what AI should I run and how much throughout the cycle? Everything else I have experience running with besides the test E.
 
Well I've never pinned, but I did trestalone and exemestane handled it, it was tough for me to dial in the dose up front but ok in the end. I prefer it just on the way I felt on it versus arimidex.
 
That's a pretty long test cycle for a first time. What have you ran before?

I prefer exemestane also. Start at 12.5mg eod and adjust as needed.
 
I've ran a lot of PH cycles.
The original MDROL
Epi, all the andros
Winstrol
Halodrol and some other PHs. I might cut the test down to 12 weeks just to be safe.
 
You don't start pct right away, stop test at week 14, start Winny at week 11 and run through week 16. That gives you 6 weeks of Winny and 2 weeks for the test to clear. Start nolva week 17 and I'd start higher, 40,40,20,20 or maybe just go 20 for 6 weeks. Maybe grab some hcg too. This isn't a 4 week pH cycle, your going to be shutdown for 18 weeks on this
 
I agree, with others exemestane / aromasin seems to be best option due to it not being harsh on lipids as arimidex, but arimidex was all i had access to for an ai last time which was the main reason i used it.

Also like others have stated the compound Test E will build up in your system from this cycle, normally around 14 days after last injection would be wise to start with PCT, i have run Sustanon in the past and waited a full 21 days before running my PCT.

also can you get hold of Clomid, because i feel it would be more effective in PCT than Nolva but some do suffer from bad sides with it.

can you get hold of HCG, this would aid recovery if used on cycle pinned at around 250 IU twice per week until start of PCT to maintain testicular size / prevent / minimize atrophy.
 
I'm pretty sure I could track some hcg down. My supplier only has Nolva though so unless I can find another guy then I'll be running nolva.

Thanks for all the input guys that's really been my big issue and why I have been putting it off for so long is due to not knowing how to run the AI and how to minimize sides.
 
I'm pretty sure I could track some hcg down. My supplier only has Nolva though so unless I can find another guy then I'll be running nolva.

Thanks for all the input guys that's really been my big issue and why I have been putting it off for so long is due to not knowing how to run the AI and how to minimize sides.
 
What bad sides come from clomid? The last PH cycle I took I ran nolva for PCT as I always have and I started breaking out in hives. I ended up going to a Phisician about it and an allergy doctor and could never pin it on anything in my environment but I also couldn't pin it on the Nolva either because
I've used nolva several times and it's never happened. It was liquid nolva not capsules so maybe that's why, but what sides can come with clomid cause if it's better then I'd prefer to run it, I just never have.
 
Also any advice on cutting down on water wait with test E. had a couple buddies who took test E and they blew up like water balloons. They also didn't have a super clean diet but the water weight let everyone that saw them know that they were on something.
 
Clomid sides are mainly related to vision problems in some people which can be worrying but more common effects are on mood e.g. i get quite bad depression which makes me not like using it.

With water retention and test e you will have to watch sodium intake and control estrogen if you are using high doses, high estrogen from aromatisation and sodium due to not following a clean diet can cause you to blow up on Test, but you can also maintain a lean dry physique with your diet.

Also you could technically cut on a steroid such as Anadrol, and that is known to cause people to blow up with water, allot of it is to do with controlling diet, e.g. carbs and sodium mainly, also i much prefer Sustanon over Test E as i feel i work better with it, i have less water retention with SUST and more strength when compared to using Test E at similar doses.
 
Smont said:
You don't start pct right away, stop test at week 14, start Winny at week 11 and run through week 16. That gives you 6 weeks of Winny and 2 weeks for the test to clear. Start nolva week 17 and I'd start higher, 40,40,20,20 or maybe just go 20 for 6 weeks. Maybe grab some hcg too. This isn't a 4 week pH cycle, your going to be shutdown for 18 weeks on this
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Yea do this op
 
What's you guys opinion on running winny a couple weeks before I start the test then again at the end of the cycle? So like winny weeks 1-4 testE 4-16 winny 14-18 Nolva 18-22 ? Just a thought cause I already have the winny on hand and am waiting for the test. I've never seen a cycle ran that way before so idk how it would go.
 
Willy617 said:
Also any advice on cutting down on water wait with test E. had a couple buddies who took test E and they blew up like water balloons. They also didn't have a super clean diet but the water weight let everyone that saw them know that they were on something.
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Drink more water to reduce water weight. If you normally drink 1G per day, drink 1.5-2G on cycle. Will flush excess sodium right out plus its good for your kidneys and will ensure adequate pumps and vascularity. Seriously. I'm surprised at how many people don't know this.

Just run the Winny at the end. If you wanted something to stack with Test, I'd recommend Mast-E @ 300-400mg/wk. enhances the cycle and helps control estrogen.
 
I think 50 mg winny/day is plenty. It will dry you out something serious as a finisher
 
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