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Suggestions for first Test E cycle

abnt

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Hey guys this is my first post but I've been reading on here for a little over a year and I've finally decided to run my first cycle. Ive run pro hormones in the past but thats it. I'm 23 and I've been been lifting for a little over 3 years. I'm 5'11" and 187lbs at about 9-10% bf. Ok so here it goes.

1-8 Test E @ 500mg a week
1-8 Aromasin @ 6.25-12.5mg EOD or as needed 2/3-8 hCG @ 250-500iu 1-2x per week

9-10 Nothing

Starting week 11
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Erase 0/2/2/3/2/2

I'm kind of confused on the hCG protocol. I've read swales protocol but if anyone has experience with dosing hCG, your thoughts would be appreciated. Also I really want to do a dbol kicker or run winny the tail end of the cycle but since this is my first cycle I was just going to stick with test only unless you think otherwise. All in all any help will be appreciated. Thanks guys
 
Hey so this is what Ive researched so far. I found a guy who had some serious years and calculations according to dosages and the appropriate amounts of what to take and when. Any feedback would help as Im trying to figure out the correct formula here for on cycle and pct. This was combined with some of my own research as well.

Cycle
12 Weeks
Test E (Mon/Thurs) 250mg

10 Weeks
Dec (Mon/Thurs) 150mg

*Last 2 weeks TestE only

Run Adex during cycle right up to PCT along with HCG (2x 25-50mg)
*Need to find out the appropriate dosage for Adex if someone could help out...I saw 6.25 to 12.5mg for abnt on Aromasin...could I do the same?

PCT
Clomid (14-18 days after last day of cycle)
Day 1 150mg, Day 2-8 100mg, Day9-22 50mg

Any tweaks or feedback are appreciated. I dont mind any constructive criticism as I am writing to learn. This is the first time Im doing real research. As far as nutrition goes I have done the calorie count requirement along with protein count, carb count and all else involved in that matter.
 
abnt said:
Hey guys this is my first post but I've been reading on here for a little over a year and I've finally decided to run my first cycle. Ive run pro hormones in the past but thats it. I'm 23 and I've been been lifting for a little over 3 years. I'm 5'11" and 187lbs at about 9-10% bf. Ok so here it goes.

1-8 Test E @ 500mg a week
1-8 Aromasin @ 6.25-12.5mg EOD or as needed 2/3-8 hCG @ 250-500iu 1-2x per week

9-10 Nothing

Starting week 11
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Erase 0/2/2/3/2/2

I'm kind of confused on the hCG protocol. I've read swales protocol but if anyone has experience with dosing hCG, your thoughts would be appreciated. Also I really want to do a dbol kicker or run winny the tail end of the cycle but since this is my first cycle I was just going to stick with test only unless you think otherwise. All in all any help will be appreciated. Thanks guys
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I would run test a few weeks longer 10 weeks or 12 weeks if this is your first cycle I suggest 10 weeks and at 250mgs a week running 500 your first go around will give you around the same gains best to start small so your body doesn't require more later

1-10 test e 250mgs pin once a week
1-10 aromasin eod
4-10 hcg 250iu pin same day as test e

9-10 hcg 500iu

11-14
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Test booster of your choice, daa or similar
Mild ai of your choice, erase or forma stanzol


I don't believe in 2 serms for pct it's very old school if you want to add it then keep the same pct just add nolva also. I also prefer clomid over nolva and I would never run it 100mgs everyday you will be acting like a female lol
 
cdptkd said:
Hey so this is what Ive researched so far. I found a guy who had some serious years and calculations according to dosages and the appropriate amounts of what to take and when. Any feedback would help as Im trying to figure out the correct formula here for on cycle and pct. This was combined with some of my own research as well.

Cycle
12 Weeks
Test E (Mon/Thurs) 250mg

10 Weeks
Dec (Mon/Thurs) 150mg

*Last 2 weeks TestE only

Run Adex during cycle right up to PCT along with HCG (2x 25-50mg)
*Need to find out the appropriate dosage for Adex if someone could help out...I saw 6.25 to 12.5mg for abnt on Aromasin...could I do the same?

PCT
Clomid (14-18 days after last day of cycle)
Day 1 150mg, Day 2-8 100mg, Day9-22 50mg

Any tweaks or feedback are appreciated. I dont mind any constructive criticism as I am writing to learn. This is the first time Im doing real research. As far as nutrition goes I have done the calorie count requirement along with protein count, carb count and all else involved in that matter.
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1st make your own thread don't hi jack his.

Cycle looks fine but I would not run deca as part of your first cycle it's a completely different monster and has a very long half life. You need more of a pct a serm only pct will take a while for you to bounce back run your ai Arimedix as needed or eod you probably won't bloat to bad on 250mgs of test if you can get aromasin for your ai on cycle it would be a better option. Add some test boosters in pct and a mild ai like erase or forma stanzol
 
gymrat727 said:
I would run test a few weeks longer 10 weeks or 12 weeks if this is your first cycle I suggest 10 weeks and at 250mgs a week running 500 your first go around will give you around the same gains best to start small so your body doesn't require more later

1-10 test e 250mgs pin once a week
1-10 aromasin eod
4-10 hcg 250iu pin same day as test e

9-10 hcg 500iu

11-14
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Test booster of your choice, daa or similar
Mild ai of your choice, erase or forma stanzol

I don't believe in 2 serms for pct it's very old school if you want to add it then keep the same pct just add nolva also. I also prefer clomid over nolva and I would never run it 100mgs everyday you will be acting like a female lol
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Thanks for the info gymrat! Are you basing the 250mg per week solely off of tolerance later on down the road? Just curious because everywhere I've read suggests at least 300mg a week and most say that 500mg isn't even too much for a first cycle.

I'll bring the clomid dosing to what you suggested and ill just keep some nolva on hand.
 
Yes I'm doing that in case you want to run future cycles down the road if you want to run 500mg then you can more sides tho you can run 300mg as well if you run 500 be sure to have an ai on hand tho
 
I'll definitely have aromasin on hand because I've had previous signs of gyno when I was younger. Can't be too careful. And thanks for the heads up, I'll stick with 300mg a week in 2-150mg pins Mon/AM and Thur/PM. I'm assuming it would be ok for me to bump it up at the tail end of the cycle if I wanted to though right?
 
abnt said:
I'll definitely have aromasin on hand because I've had previous signs of gyno when I was younger. Can't be too careful. And thanks for the heads up, I'll stick with 300mg a week in 2-150mg pins Mon/AM and Thur/PM. I'm assuming it would be ok for me to bump it up at the tail end of the cycle if I wanted to though right?
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I wouldn't go under 500 IMO
 
abnt said:
I'll definitely have aromasin on hand because I've had previous signs of gyno when I was younger. Can't be too careful. And thanks for the heads up, I'll stick with 300mg a week in 2-150mg pins Mon/AM and Thur/PM. I'm assuming it would be ok for me to bump it up at the tail end of the cycle if I wanted to though right?
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If you want to you can. remember tho slow and steady wins the race
 
Say I ran a 12 week cycle @ 500mg a week of test e. would my PCT I had planned for my 8 week cycle still be sufficient?
 
Sure if you want to run clomid at 100mgs a day... Plus you hcg protocol isn't correct use my layout but change the 250 to 500
 
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