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Good stuff thank you
Back in late 1990s a physician wrote me an Rx of Serostim, recombinant DNA somatropin, that my health insurance covered. It was supposed to be administered SQ daily, hated it, altered it to every other day, still hated the SQ routine, and when Serostim gave me adverse events, bone and joint pain, I stopped taking it.
If you are referring to test cyp, injection every 7-14 days makes no sense.
Giving your opinion without data makes no sense
Did you ever try just doing subq 2 days a week instead of IM 2x per week? I get that people like subq because it's easier to pin and doing it every day is simple, however you can still easily pin your test 2x per week subq. I wonder if just pinning subq 2x per week would have raised your hemoglobin compared to IM 2x per week or if it was because you were pinning daily.
what does your total test usually come back as? I'm guessing not 1200 so It sounds like it does work better. I wonder if maybe you lowers the dose more if everything would of came back in range. I'm not on trt or a dr so don't listen to me.lol. I just find it interesting on how much of a diffrence it can make.
Yeah I do have to admit it's pretty impressive that he's able to get his test levels that high on only 70mgs of test per week. Typically that would be viewed as a huge win because you're getting higher test levels and using much less test to do so. I think my next cycle I might do all subq
Total test is generally around 700-800 which is where feel really good. I didn't mention it but with it higher, I felt the same in general mood wise. The only difference was that I didn't have the energy I get the day after injection when I go IM. In some ways it is good because it's like a dopamine rush, but it can be a bit much. To answer your question, could I have continued to lower it- probably. But considering it was throwing other labs out of wack and I wasn't seeing benefit (I don't see supra levels of test as a benefit), I decided to forgo it. Specialist hypothesized that it was continual build up as it dissipates at a far slower rate subq, but we never chased it.
Glad to see you posting again @kisaj. I’m a lucky one. I’ve been on TRT for 10 years now. I’ve been on 100 mgs of test cyp split into 2 weekly doses. I was still having to use an AI to keep my E2 down. My total test was in the low 700’s but E2 was in the 60’s without an AI. I switched to subq with 3x week injections about 8 months ago. My total test is in the 600’s but my E2 is 29 and all my other levels are great. I know what you mean about searching for an edge. I’ve been the same way but I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t think there is an edge anymore lol.
LOL!
.5 ml is the upper limit of sub q to the gut for me. Plenty of other sites hold more though
Thanks. I was thinking .3 - .5 would be the rough range for stomach. Have you tried other areas? If you can get away with 1ml in the buttocks without issue that would pretty much make running an entire subq cycle quite easy.
Glutes and hip are my favorite sub q for up to 1 ml. I’ve never pinned quads (sub or IM) ever but hear it’s not so bad lol
Nice! If I can get 1ml in the glutes or hip without lumps then that would certainly make the whole subq cycling much easier for me. Thanks!
