Subcutaneous test prop or trest ace as base?

UNX

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I'm planning my next cycle, and I want to try a short ester test base and transdermal dienolone. The issue is that I don't wanna pin IM EOD. Test prop concentration is usually 100 ml/mg, so are 50 mg SQ ED good as a base? I'm not sure about trest ace, it could be better if the oil volume is lower, but with dienolone the chances of prolactin issue are higher. Anyone has first hand experience?
 
Anything that will give sufficient, physiologic levels of estrogen can be used as a base. However, trest aromatizes to a differenr, methyl estrogen.
Not an expert, but i believe you should be fine even though it is methyl estrogen.

For a base i would recommend trt dose of test and some hcg. It will give you physiologic levels of all 3 natural hormones, T, E and DHT.

Hcg will also keep your balls active, and will uplift your mood, as there are other important reactions going on in steroidogenesis that simply get shut down and dont get replaced by just shoving exogenous T into your body.
 
Sure, I always add low dose HCG on cycle. I'm not sure about trest dosage as a base, what's the standard dose?
 
I dont know, never used it. But for test 100-125mg a week split into 2 injections (for enanthate or cyp) will generally give you good, stable high normal levels of T.
 
30 mgs per day of TD works well. if I had to guess with trest IM … I would say 25 eod would work for trt style dosing.
 
UNX said:
I'm planning my next cycle, and I want to try a short ester test base and transdermal dienolone. The issue is that I don't wanna pin IM EOD. Test prop concentration is usually 100 ml/mg, so are 50 mg SQ ED good as a base? I'm not sure about trest ace, it could be better if the oil volume is lower, but with dienolone the chances of prolactin issue are higher. Anyone has first hand experience?
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i switched my cruise dose of test cyp to sub q just because I wanted to give my glutes and delts a rest. Was hitting scar tissue more and more. Had no issues with it thus far tbh
 
Whisky said:
i switched my cruise dose of test cyp to sub q just because I wanted to give my glutes and delts a rest. Was hitting scar tissue more and more. Had no issues with it thus far tbh
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What amount of oil do you inject? So far, my only SQ pins were HCG, a very low volume (0.1 ml). I guess 0.3 to 0.5 ml of oil daily would be doable.
 
Whisky said:
i switched my cruise dose of test cyp to sub q just because I wanted to give my glutes and delts a rest. Was hitting scar tissue more and more. Had no issues with it thus far tbh
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im getting to that point to.. im like bottom of the ass cheek now..
 
UNX said:
What amount of oil do you inject? So far, my only SQ pins were HCG, a very low volume (0.1 ml). I guess 0.3 to 0.5 ml of oil daily would be doable.
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yeah I’m only doing 0.25 at the moment but up to 0.5 should be fine
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
im getting to that point to.. im like bottom of the ass cheek now..
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I forget where I’ve gone anyway so just randomly pick a spot. It’s when the needles juddering all the way in you start to think it’s time to give them a rest 😂
 
Has anyone actually ran a real cycle fully subq? Anything other than test? Ive found small amounts of trt research but thats it.

I do hcg subq and i really like it.
 
benjamfzb said:
Has anyone actually ran a real cycle fully subq? Anything other than test? Ive found small amounts of trt research but thats it.

I do hcg subq and i really like it.
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I haven’t and I wouldn’t to be honest. Trt doses of test is one thing but bigger amounts or different injectables just feel right going IM. I’d put any significant amounts of oil IM

peptides and hcg totally different imo, water based always sub q.
 
Whisky said:
I haven’t and I wouldn’t to be honest. Trt doses of test is one thing but bigger amounts or different injectables just feel right going IM. I’d put any significant amounts of oil IM

peptides and hcg totally different imo, water based always sub q.
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That was exactly my impression. Just wanted to bounce the idea before cementing it. Thanks!
 
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