Study: Meth use rare in most of the U.S.

spatch said:
well maybe someone should conduct a formal study. Back in the 90's our school sucked in state testing rankings, and you never would hear of drug use in the high school. Now we kick ass and all you hear about is drugs.

a few hundred years ago people said "sail around the world? you'll fall off" We all know how that worked out.
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If drug use is good for academic performance, then Bogota, Columbia, must be producing young Einsteins and Nobel laureates by the busload. And Holland must be producing all the doctors, lawyers, scientists, engineers, like a queen ant producing worker ants.
 
BioHazzard said:
So, we need to commercialize drugs because people's jobs suck? Not a sellable reasoning there. :)

Drug use for maintaining social order? You got to be kidding!! May be we should pump Prozac and Viagraa into the city water supply then. :D
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So, we don't need to commercialize drugs because our jobs don't suck!( that was too easy)
Seriously though;
Drugs were commercialized along time ago. They were also regulated by a dictating authority. Mostly to protect us from snake oil salesmen. The necessity for a governing body to protect the weaker members of society is clear. However, not every decision they make is perfect. If you blindly follow authority you are not taking full advantage of you American citizenship!

They have been dumping chemicals in our water supply since the 40's....I hope they are being honest about which ones they dump!
 
anabolicrhino said:
So, we don't need to commercialize drugs because our jobs don't suck!( that was too easy)
Seriously though;
Drugs were commercialized along time ago. They were also regulated by a dictating authority. Mostly to protect us from snake oil salesmen. The necessity for a governing body to protect the weaker members of society is clear. However, not every decision they make is perfect. If you blindly follow authority you are not taking full advantage of you American citizenship!

They have been dumping chemicals in our water supply since the 40's....I hope they are being honest about which ones they dump!
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If you want to be serious, then you ought to know that the argument that we should make hallucinogen available in the commercial market BECAUSE people's jobs suck, is not going to get any traction in the real world.

You would be laughed out of town. (Ok.. may be you would be hailed if you are in some dope cities..)

And this has nothing to do with questioning authority. It is the right and duty of every member of our society to question the authority and to held them accountable. It is afterall a government by the people, of the people and for the people.

That doesn't mean any crackpot theory dished up by every Joe, Mo and Curly, is to be taken seriously under the disguise of 'questioning the authority'. In order to be taken seriously, you still have to make sense. (BTW, I am not accusing you of posting nonsense.)

People can go online and proclaim how the world should work and how things ought to be, according to whatever ideology or belief that they fancy, or according to whatever long dead guru they happen to worship. It is just a waste of breathe, if it is not going to gain any traction with the majority of the society.


P.S. So what chemicals, besides floride, which has reduced tooth decay significantly, have been dumped into our watersupply?
 
BioHazzard said:
If drug use is good for academic performance, then Bogota, Columbia, must be producing young Einsteins and Nobel laureates by the busload. And Holland must be producing all the doctors, lawyers, scientists, engineers, like a queen ant producing worker ants.
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Sure they have more drugs but but less libraries and what not.
 
BioHazzard said:
right... hallucinogen + library. :cheers:
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You should try it sometime :thumbsup:



so a lot of people think drug use causes depression and not the other way around. Lets use the state of Alaska for example

Alaska is exposed to very little sun for most of the year, and almost none for 6 months straight or so. Lack of sunlight causes all mammals (including humans) to have depression. Even monkeys that are kept in rooms where realistic night/day light levels are simulated ( dimming out of lights to represent sun rise/set instead of simply switching them from on to off) have depression. Alaska has the highest rate of alcoholism and drug use per capita in the US.

This leaves 2 possibuilites

A) outside factor (lack of natural sunlight) causes depression causes drug use

or

B) drug use causes the sun to not shine enought on alaska.


You get one guess as to which it is.


Edit- Alaska has the highest ammount of those who seek treatment for alcoholism, not the highest sale rate or alcohol related death. Still, they get cocl<ed too much.
 
Well spatch, I can appreciate you thinking deeply and your right regarding sunlight and depresion, but the two options you provided need a bit of rethinking. LOL. Many factors can contribute to the rate of alcoholism and drug use in Alaska. Perhaps the extremely horrible male to female ratio or the ridiculously cold weather for starters. I'm not making claims, just saying its not quite so simple. I know if I had to fight for poon tang like a couple of crack-hoes over a piece of rock I'd be drinking like a madman, too! haha
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Well spatch, I can appreciate you thinking deeply and your right regarding sunlight and depresion, but the two options you provided need a bit of rethinking. LOL. Many factors can contribute to the rate of alcoholism and drug use in Alaska. Perhaps the extremely horrible male to female ratio or the ridiculously cold weather for starters. I'm not making claims, just saying its not quite so simple. I know if I had to fight for poon tang like a couple of crack-hoes over a piece of rock I'd be drinking like a madman, too! haha
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Well yes but in this case also...outside factors cause depression which cause alcoholism. Unless you mean to tell me the alcohol causes the man/woman ratio to change or the temp to drop.
 
BLAH. Where I live in Chicago, meth is hard to get. Ive been offered every drug under the sun, except crystal. It would seem to me that it is not quite a big problem. Granted, it is very bad for you, but the government needs to worry about the drugs that controlled by organized crime syndicates, like cocaine and heroin. imo crystal is one of the less worrisome problems.
 
thetimbomb said:
BLAH. Where I live in Chicago, meth is hard to get. Ive been offered every drug under the sun, except crystal. It would seem to me that it is not quite a big problem. Granted, it is very bad for you, but the government needs to worry about the drugs that controlled by organized crime syndicates, like cocaine and heroin. imo crystal is one of the less worrisome problems.
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You sound like someone who actually read the article..........not saying meth is good for you but showing (by blood tests of crminals) that it's actually rare (concentrated in a few locations)....and that the "meth epidemic" is just political hysteria.
 
BioHazzard said:
If you want to be serious, then you ought to know that the argument that we should make hallucinogen available in the commercial market BECAUSE people's jobs suck, is not going to get any traction in the real world.

You would be laughed out of town. (Ok.. may be you would be hailed if you are in some dope cities..)

And this has nothing to do with questioning authority. It is the right and duty of every member of our society to question the authority and to held them accountable. It is afterall a government by the people, of the people and for the people.

That doesn't mean any crackpot theory dished up by every Joe, Mo and Curly, is to be taken seriously under the disguise of 'questioning the authority'. In order to be taken seriously, you still have to make sense. (BTW, I am not accusing you of posting nonsense.)

People can go online and proclaim how the world should work and how things ought to be, according to whatever ideology or belief that they fancy, or according to whatever long dead guru they happen to worship. It is just a waste of breathe, if it is not going to gain any traction with the majority of the society.


P.S. So what chemicals, besides floride, which has reduced tooth decay significantly, have been dumped into our watersupply?
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The fact is that all drugs are not for all people.
Some people prefer to have their drug needs assesed by a governing authority, and thankfully we have one.
Ofcourse, some people don't like their drug needs dictated to them agains their rational will.
This conflict in ideologies will always exist

p.s I don't know what chemicals are in the water supply and neither do you.

p.s. Joe, Moe and Curly? What happened to Larry?

Larry Fine - theforgottenstooge.com
 
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