Strongest PH for 2020-2021

[joe123!]

Use to run OL PH back in the day and always had great results. I ran Icon One/UH and it produced a nice recomp. However, 3 of us are using that same stack again and just not getting the same results as our first time around 9 months ago.

I was wondering, what do you guys vote as the strongest non methylated PH for 2020-2021?

 

[Potbelly]

Hi tech stuff or Andro the giant I guess

 

[joe123!]

Hi tech stuff or Andro the giant I guess

I was thinking about giving Hi tech a shot.

 

[wfreiling]

Why not methylated?

 

[Rad83]

I was thinking about giving Hi tech a shot.

Get that wallet ready

 

[johnny412]

Hi tech stuff or Andro the giant I guess

you have got to be kidding?

 

[joe123!]

you have got to be kidding?

Don't hold back, drop your pearls of wisdom swami.

 

[cheftepesh1]

I was thinking about giving Hi tech a shot.

Shop around as they are pretty high priced. Also do you want powder, pills or transdermals? Each is sold by a different company.

 

[johnny412]

Don't hold back, drop your pearls of wisdom swami.

hi tech is a joke...im just sayin....
im taking brawn trena-v right now and i would bet its cheaper and stronger than anything hi-tech has...i mean they do have superdrol thats not superdrol lol

 

[joe123!]

Shop around as they are pretty high priced. Also do you want powder, pills or transdermals? Each is sold by a different company.

I like transdermal, but I'll roll with pills. Just looking for the best bang. This is not scientifically verified at all, but three of us are using Icon One and not getting the
[QUOTE="cheftepesh1, post: 6505358, member: 194330"

I like transdermal, but I'll roll with pills. Just looking for the best bang. This is not scientifically verified at all, but three of us are using Icon One and not getting the same results so I'm wondering if they changed their formula eeeh

 

[cronikgains]

Apex has Dienogen which is supposed to be strong in comparison to andros. Maybe try that?

 

[Rad83]

Hexadrone….Find the correct isomer, it’s a non methyl steroid…

 

[cheftepesh1]

I like transdermal, but I'll roll with pills. Just looking for the best bang. This is not scientifically verified at all, but three of us are using Icon One and not getting the
[QUOTE="cheftepesh1, post: 6505358, member: 194330"

I like transdermal, but I'll roll with pills. Just looking for the best bang. This is not scientifically verified at all, but three of us are using Icon One and not getting the same results so I'm wondering if they changed their formula eeeh

If three different people are using the same product. They will have different results based on training diet and their bodies. Everyone reacts differently.

 

[BigGame84]

Go to Powermyself look up Brawn and choose your poison.

 

[Potbelly]

you have got to be kidding?

Thought he was asking for something easy to get and stateside non methylated. Sorry for trying to help.

 

[Hyde]

Apex has Dienogen which is supposed to be strong in comparison to andros. Maybe try that?

Yeah dienelone is by far the strongest non-methyl around on RC sites. A legitimate steroid. Pin a few hundred mg of dien ace/wk and if you don’t grow you should just quit lifting lol

Haven’t used transdermal version but heard 100mg/day is a solid solo td dose. I’ve heard 150/day is just too much.

 

[joe123!]

If three different people are using the same product. They will have different results based on training diet and their bodies. Everyone reacts differently.

Agree, I should have clarified. We are three people that did the identical run 9 months ago. Each with the same diet and workout as last time and all three of us experienced less results overall.

Not saying we should have identical results, but I'm pointing out that all three of us had diminishing results from the initial time we tried it.

 

[Rad83]

I’m just sayin’…experienced guys that I’ve learned from have been known to say “up the dose, bro”

If you ran an extra couple pumps and then threw in a 3ad or something, you’d probably get more out of this run.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

OP dienogen is easily the strongest grey market hormone that's readily available. Be forewarned though, as mentioned above, its not a "PH"....
Dienogen – Apex Alchemy (apex-alchemy.com)

 

[wfreiling]

OP dienogen is easily the strongest grey market hormone that's readily available. Be forewarned though, as mentioned above, its not a "PH"....
Dienogen – Apex Alchemy (apex-alchemy.com)

I’ll be logging this starting June 1st if you wanna see it in action

 

[joe123!]

I’ll be logging this starting June 1st if you wanna see it in action

Nice, tag me in it. I love to see how it treats ya!

 

[wfreiling]

Nice, tag me in it. I love to see how it treats ya!

Disclaimer- it won’t be run solo but I’ve used the other compounds before

 

[Renew1]

Thought he was asking for something easy to get and stateside non methylated. Sorry for trying to help.

I looked this up and found this:

Dienedione - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's been banned since 2010, so I wouldn't even call it gray market, I would call it black market.



What's the correct isomer?

You know what??
If you could actually READ, You might be dangerous!

That is DIENEDIONE.
A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COMPOUND.

BUT IT ISN'T LOST ON ME WHAT YOU ATTEMPTED TO DO HERE.

BOLD MOVE FROM SOMEONE WHO ISN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE ON THIS SITE ANYMORE.
I WON'T FORGET THIS, AND NEITHER WILL OTHERS ....

 

[wfreiling]

You know what??
If you could actually READ, You might be dangerous!

That is DIENEDIONE.
A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COMPOUND.

BUT IT ISN'T LOST ON ME WHAT YOU ATTEMPTED TO DO HERE.

BOLD MOVE FROM SOMEONE WHO ISN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE ON THIS SITE ANYMORE.
I WON'T FORGET THIS, AND NEITHER WILL OTHERS ....

Why can’t this dude just be permanently banned. He brings less than anything useful to conversation. In actuality he just misinforms people. This is the kind of thing that we don’t need here. Usually internet people don’t bother me but this dude is a cancer to the forum. Also, I refuse to believe he’s from Philly. Probably lives in Jersey and claims Philly. Douche bag. I hate him. End rant

 

[wfreiling]

the correct isomer takes literally 2 seconds to copy/paste into google smdh

Dude doesn’t even lift. I’m convinced he’s eating Doritos in his moms basement posting this ****.

 

[johnny412]

Dude doesn’t even lift. I’m convinced he’s eating Doritos in his moms basement posting this ****.

exactly!!!

 

[Marne40]

You know what??
If you could actually READ, You might be dangerous!

That is DIENEDIONE.
A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COMPOUND.

BUT IT ISN'T LOST ON ME WHAT YOU ATTEMPTED TO DO HERE.

BOLD MOVE FROM SOMEONE WHO ISN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE ON THIS SITE ANYMORE.
I WON'T FORGET THIS, AND NEITHER WILL OTHERS ....

I’ve never downvoted anyone, but he got one for that. What a sh!tty thing to try to do. Good for you to say what you did man.

 

[Marne40]

Dude doesn’t even lift. I’m convinced he’s eating Doritos in his moms basement posting this ****.

 

[RIPDanDuchaine]

You know what??
If you could actually READ, You might be dangerous!

That is DIENEDIONE.
A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COMPOUND.

BUT IT ISN'T LOST ON ME WHAT YOU ATTEMPTED TO DO HERE.

BOLD MOVE FROM SOMEONE WHO ISN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE ON THIS SITE ANYMORE.
I WON'T FORGET THIS, AND NEITHER WILL OTHERS ....

Whoa, calm down cowboy. If I did that, it was an honest mistake. I typed in 17b-acetoxy-estra-4,9-Diene-3-one into Google and that's the first result that came up.

I did a search for "17b-acetoxy-estra-4,9-Diene-3-one" (in quotes) and came back with absolutely zero results. So, I'm assuming that's nomenclature for something.

So, my mistake, I apologize. I have nothing against Apex or any of your products. It truly was just an honest mistake on my part.

 

[Renew1]

Whoa, calm down cowboy. If I did that, it was an honest mistake. I typed in 17b-acetoxy-estra-4,9-Diene-3-one into Google and that's the first result that came up.

I did a search for "17b-acetoxy-estra-4,9-Diene-3-one" (in quotes) and came back with absolutely zero results. So, I'm assuming that's nomenclature for something.

So, my mistake, I apologize. I have nothing against Apex or any of your products. It truly was just an honest mistake on my part.

You just claimed on the open board that Apex-Alchemy was selling black market products.

No apology will suffice.

The END.

 

[johnny412]

Whoa, calm down cowboy. If I did that, it was an honest mistake. I typed in 17b-acetoxy-estra-4,9-Diene-3-one into Google and that's the first result that came up.

I did a search for "17b-acetoxy-estra-4,9-Diene-3-one" (in quotes) and came back with absolutely zero results. So, I'm assuming that's nomenclature for something.

So, my mistake, I apologize. I have nothing against Apex or any of your products. It truly was just an honest mistake on my part.

you sure do have to apologize for your honest mistakes alot theses days smdh...

 

[Renew1]

you sure do have to apologize for your honest mistakes alot theses days smdh...

An honest mistake would've been (wrongly) thinking Apex was selling something they shouldn't be, and approaching them about it.
Not blasting false accusations on the open board.

 

[wfreiling]

An honest mistake would've been (wrongly) thinking Apex was selling something they shouldn't be, and approaching them about it.
Not blasting false accusations on the open board.

He’s the same type of dude to start something but then when he was about to get hit it’s all “I’m sorry” “you know I was joking “
Gtfoh

 

[Renew1]

He’s the same type of dude to start something but then when he was about to get hit it’s all “I’m sorry” “you know I was joking “
Gtfoh

Yep

 

[johnny412]

Whoa, calm down cowboy. If I did that, it was an honest mistake. I typed in 17b-acetoxy-estra-4,9-Diene-3-one into Google and that's the first result that came up.

I did a search for "17b-acetoxy-estra-4,9-Diene-3-one" (in quotes) and came back with absolutely zero results. So, I'm assuming that's nomenclature for something.

So, my mistake, I apologize. I have nothing against Apex or any of your products. It truly was just an honest mistake on my part.

ive told you a million times to quit postin about **** you dont know about...a quick google search does NOT mean you are suddenly an expert on EVERYTHING! smdh bless your heart...

 

[RIPDanDuchaine]

You just claimed on the open board that Apex-Alchemy was selling black market products.

No apology will suffice.

The END.

I see TONS of companies selling black market products on this forum. I had no idea you weren't one of those companies. All I can do is apologize. Google it yourself and you'll see what I found. I was under the impression Google would return results of the compound I was looking for. I was wrong.

If you're not willing to accept my sincere apology, then I don't know what to say. I can't go back and correct the mistake because my original post was deleted.

So again, I apologize to all of Apex and their reps, you personally, and Apex as a company.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

i feel like that is as about as good as this situation will get. moving on. but TONS of companies selling BM ?? that makes no sense. there would be a lot of business getting in trouble. yet, i can literally count the companies who have gotten into trouble for selling illegal items on one hand. so, going forward i think you should try not to implicate companies are selling BM goods unless you have the facts strait.

 

[wfreiling]

i feel like that is as about as good as this situation will get. moving on. but TONS of companies selling BM ?? that makes no sense. there would be a lot of business getting in trouble. yet, i can literally count the companies who have gotten into trouble for selling illegal items on one hand. so, going forward i think you should try not to implicate companies are selling BM goods unless you have the facts strait.

I disagree with the last part. Don’t implicate ****. No one likes a snitch.

 

[johnny412]

I see TONS of companies selling black market products on this forum. I had no idea you weren't one of those companies. All I can do is apologize. Google it yourself and you'll see what I found. I was under the impression Google would return results of the compound I was looking for. I was wrong.

If you're not willing to accept my sincere apology, then I don't know what to say. I can't go back and correct the mistake because my original post was deleted.

So again, I apologize to all of Apex and their reps, you personally, and Apex as a company.

like i said...you know NOTHING....then you start googling ****...and cant comprehend what you are reading...

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

I disagree with the last part. Don’t implicate ****. No one likes a snitch.

snitches get stitches

 

[wfreiling]

snitches get stitches

Like I said, no way this dude is from Philly acting so outta pocket

 

[Beau]

In today's day and age anyone with a keyboard and the ability to query anything is suddenly a self-appointed expert. The problem is they are not.

In my lifetime, I have come to expect that I will receive a more favorable result if I ask a question rather than to make an accusation.

The problem is that making an accusation, even one that is laughably flawed, can cast an undue shadow on the accused. That is unfair and places an undue burden on the accused to correct not only the self-appointed expert/accuser, but also anyone else who may have relied on the accusation.

So, I suggest asking questions if/when you are seeking information, rather than showing people that you do not know what you are talking about by making an unfounded accusation. Both parties will benefit, and one party avoids looking foolish.

One more idea - if we interacted with other people on the internet the way we would have interacted in person, these things would not happen because if one openly and wrongfully accused another of a wrongdoing in person, they would more than likely need to schedule a dentist appointment shortly hereafter.

 

[Looking4gainzz]

In today's day and age anyone with a keyboard and the ability to query anything is suddenly a self-appointed expert. The problem is they are not.

In my lifetime, I have come to expect that I will receive a more favorable result if I ask a question rather than to make an accusation.

The problem is that making an accusation, even one that is laughably flawed, can cast an undue shadow on the accused. That is unfair and places an undue burden on the accused to correct not only the self-appointed expert/accuser, but also anyone else who may have relied on the accusation.

So, I suggest asking questions if/when you are seeking information, rather than showing people that you do not know what you are talking about by making an unfounded accusation. Both parties will benefit, and one party avoids looking foolish.

One more idea - if we interacted with other people on the internet the way we would have interacted in person, these things would not happen because if one openly and wrongfully accused another of a wrongdoing in person, they would more than likely need to schedule a dentist appointment shortly hereafter.

....GAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!

 

[Potbelly]

I see TONS of companies selling black market products on this forum. I had no idea you weren't one of those companies. All I can do is apologize. Google it yourself and you'll see what I found. I was under the impression Google would return results of the compound I was looking for. I was wrong.

If you're not willing to accept my sincere apology, then I don't know what to say. I can't go back and correct the mistake because my original post was deleted.

So again, I apologize to all of Apex and their reps, you personally, and Apex as a company.

 

[johnny412]

....GAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!

are you really...well thats ok buddy no hate here