Strength of Anabolics

GarageLifter

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Hey guys,

From everything I've read I pretty much know the answer but just want to confirm. In terms of strength the order would be:

SARM ------> Prohormone ------>Anabolic Steroid.

And this also goes with level of gain as well as level of risk.

Best Wishes
 
Yes, with a caveat.

"Pro-hormone" as in the Andro series stuff, I would say is pretty close to the same, or even slightly weaker, than some SARMs. Just depends on the exact comparison.

If when you say "pro-hormone", you mean MSten, M1A, DMZ, Trestolone, etc. then no, this generality isn't correct because those "pro-hormones" are really one in the same as AAS. They are not pro-hormones at all but rather steroids or pro-steroids (meaning a steroid that partially or wholly converts into another steroid). Examples of the latter would include H-Drol, M1A & pro-dienolones, such as the old X-Tren.

The industry called these products pro-hormones on the basis that because they were not spelled out as a banned steroid in the controlled substance list, they were not to be labeled or identified as a steroid, but rather something that converts into a steroid after ingestion. A legal loop hole at best but it worked for a while.

And as an opinion, I believe that a number of OTC AAS are as strong as D-Bol, Anadrol and Winny at least in some ways.
 
If you wanna get real detailed and break it down to a mg-mg battle then everything goes out the window. 30 mg of lgd will blow out 30 mg of hdrol. 30 mg of msten will blow out 30mg of a-bombs. Ppl think lgd is weak but the try to cycle 5-10mg and expect results, try taking 10mg of anadrol and you would be disappointed.
 
fueledpassion said:
Yes, with a caveat.

"Pro-hormone" as in the Andro series stuff, I would say is pretty close to the same, or even slightly weaker, than some SARMs. Just depends on the exact comparison.

If when you say "pro-hormone", you mean MSten, M1A, DMZ, Trestolone, etc. then no, this generality isn't correct because those "pro-hormones" are really one in the same as AAS. They are not pro-hormones at all but rather steroids or pro-steroids (meaning a steroid that partially or wholly converts into another steroid). Examples of the latter would include H-Drol, M1A & pro-dienolones, such as the old X-Tren.

The industry called these products pro-hormones on the basis that because they were not spelled out as a banned steroid in the controlled substance list, they were not to be labeled or identified as a steroid, but rather something that converts into a steroid after ingestion. A legal loop hole at best but it worked for a while.

And as an opinion, I believe that a number of OTC AAS are as strong as D-Bol, Anadrol and Winny at least in some ways.
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This post should be required reading before anyone is allowed to use the term "prohormone."
 
yeah theres way more to the equation than SARM<PH<AAS... fueledpassion hit most of it tho.

SARMS (many things that are "lumped in" here are not even sarms at all based on the true MOA of them)
PH (something that has at least a 1-step conversion to an active steroid; many of the common ones still on the market tho are 2-steps and thus much weaker per mg)
DS - designer steroids; these would be the types that FP was talking about that are actually active compounds (epistane, dmz, msten, etc)
AAS - I would only lump true 100% non-converting steroids in here... test/tren/etc... these should be the strongest mg:mg simply due to the fact that they're direct hormonal items that require no conversion, delivery from oral or td source, or lose "strength" anywhere during their administration.

frankly, saying that any one compound is "stronger" than another is simply going to come down to dosing.
5mg of tren isnt gonna be "stronger" than 10000mg of even the highest-step converting ph or low level sarm.

to make things even harder, stacking and personal factors will change any equation potentially dramatically as well. 2 items stacked can have a 1+1=3 effect (or the opposite) and each individual will respond differently based on their diet, body chemistry, natural hormonal levels, androgen receptors, etc etc...

And when you talk about risk, thats a whole different convo. Injecting pure test is probably the LEAST risky of anything. At a reasonable level, you're simply talking about replacing a natural hormone in your body and just going to the higher end of the scale. I would say its far less risky (even though markedly stronger) than a 2-step , test-converting ph which will have a myriad of organ and other functional risks.
 
Smont said:
If you wanna get real detailed and break it down to a mg-mg battle then everything goes out the window. 30 mg of lgd will blow out 30 mg of hdrol. 30 mg of msten will blow out 30mg of a-bombs. Ppl think lgd is weak but the try to cycle 5-10mg and expect results, try taking 10mg of anadrol and you would be disappointed.
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This right here^

Try taking a real dose of sarms 20-40mg a day and I guarantee you'll laugh at the thought of another andro cycle

But in comparison to DS and AAS, they aren't ran at those doses so we'll never know until someone does tests and records results. They blow Andros out the water (from personal experience)
 
Why is the like button exactly where my thumb scrolls hence accidentally liking things that I didn't mean to however Do agree with Netflix
 
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