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BamBam54
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I think it's reasonable to think if this squeeze flops, that AMC is really worth about back to what it was before the pandemic and all this squeeze gaming started.... which is around 15. That is if the audiences all return to prior levels.
Some think it will never fully recover because people have enjoyed watching movies on the big screen from the comfort of home. I do enjoy the dinner-theater movie experience, we built a Cinebistro here at my office. But they went bankrupt in the covid. A new more-cool less-fancy movie house is looking to take it over now called Warehouse Cinema.
Some think it will never fully recover because people have enjoyed watching movies on the big screen from the comfort of home. I do enjoy the dinner-theater movie experience, we built a Cinebistro here at my office. But they went bankrupt in the covid. A new more-cool less-fancy movie house is looking to take it over now called Warehouse Cinema.
GQdaLEGEND
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i think retailers/youtube got hold of this when it went from 13 to 5 .. and youtubers needed something like GME
so from 5 they rode to 26 to 50-60s
only thing worrysome is .. what if all the data we were pointed out was wrong .. and they have been covering their positions which is why it jumped 5 to 60+ ( over 1000% gains )
yeah on red days u start doubting your DD lol
BamBam54
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Yeah, on these long red weeks I start thinking that the pop up to 70 "WAS" the extent of the short squeeze and its all a slow bleed (or occasional lucky day trading) down from here. Kind of following the GME model... ya know?
GQdaLEGEND
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yup or we can look at it as it was just that time where s&p500 was booming .. you can touch anything and it was bound to go up within weeks .. and now its retracting/fear in people doesnt help
ax1
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ax1
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Cant take that with a full grain of salt, Adam Aaron diluted the crap out of the stock to save the company in 2020. You really want full market cap rather than single share price to compare.
The float was only just over 100 million pre-pandemic.
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ax1
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Its as heavily shorted today as its ever been.
ax1
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Remember, it popped from under $2 to $25 (25 was pre-market) it was considered the budget version of GME for those who couldnt afford $100 a share. It then did drop down to $5, I started buying back in at $8.
In December 2020, I had some 1600 Shares at $2.95 and it dipped to under $2 and when it hit $3.19 I sold it all as was happy about that......LMFAO!!! I had no idea what was going on and that it was going to pop. Then I bought back in at $15, it went to $25 and then Shytadel and Robbinghood fuqqed us.
ax1
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Damn, Fidelity desperate to talk to me they left me a long voice message and reached out by email.
It came from "investment solutions" and she said she is contacting me to make sure my accounts are successful.
Coincidence after I liquidated almost my entire accounts into AMC stock? LFMAO, I cant call, wonder how that conversation would look like.
Hello Daniel, how's it going?
-Fidelity: Just concerned your accounts arent diverse, you may want to sell off your AMC shares and have other stocks.
Um, Im an Ape, AMC to the mmooooonnnn.....50k floor, fuq heggies.....you got money in reserve for me?
-Fidelity: Your account is high risk, you should sell AMC and diversify
50k floor heggies are fuqqed, fuq them
-Fidelity: Um, Ax1, uh, sorry for wasting your time.
-No problem Daniel, how can I tip you $15?? I want you to buy a AMC share, hold to Pluto!!! Thank me later.
-Fidelity: Click!
It came from "investment solutions" and she said she is contacting me to make sure my accounts are successful.
Coincidence after I liquidated almost my entire accounts into AMC stock? LFMAO, I cant call, wonder how that conversation would look like.
Hello Daniel, how's it going?
-Fidelity: Just concerned your accounts arent diverse, you may want to sell off your AMC shares and have other stocks.
Um, Im an Ape, AMC to the mmooooonnnn.....50k floor, fuq heggies.....you got money in reserve for me?
-Fidelity: Your account is high risk, you should sell AMC and diversify
50k floor heggies are fuqqed, fuq them
-Fidelity: Um, Ax1, uh, sorry for wasting your time.
-No problem Daniel, how can I tip you $15?? I want you to buy a AMC share, hold to Pluto!!! Thank me later.
-Fidelity: Click!
GQdaLEGEND
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Wow nerve on them
GQdaLEGEND
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Whoa green ending 
BamBam54
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Just thinking about the reality of a short squeeze.... seems the higher dollar hedgies could all cash out at this price pretty easily anytime they want. Are we still looking at Friday numbers to see how many could be caught holding? Who are we thinking would get caught desperate to buy, when the price is on sale now for US as much as for THEM??
Just trying to think through the logic of this whole squeeze thing...
Just trying to think through the logic of this whole squeeze thing...
GQdaLEGEND
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ax1
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Not if the higher hedgies are responsible for the most of and potentially 100s of millions of fake synthetic shares. It will be an explosion if true.
Plus there are around 100 million official shares shorted and retails owns 80-90% of the official float. I dunno who and how much has what but 20% short interest is really high, the VW squeeze was only 12% and that was considered very high.
It and once it squeezes it will trigger a chain reaction all across the board.
We always look at Friday’s for gamma squeezes, last week would have been huge if the market didn’t crash and bring AMC down with it.
BamBam54
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I guess if any of this synthetic stuff is real, combined with the new rule and Lou saying it's a 30 day count-down... if anything is ever gonna gamma squeeze pop it should happen in that time frame.
If it doesn't, it would be hard to believe more videos with more conspiracies about how Big-D's have some double secret way of beating the system where they can trade fake shares forever without affecting the market price we buy and sell at...
Is Trey buying 100k now at the $15 level? Why wouldn't he have bought at the $40 level (or $30.... or $20) when he was telling all of us to get in because it was going to the moon?!?!?!
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ax1
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Just before the new transparancy ruling, Fidelity pleaded to the SEC agaisnt it because shares were going to be double counted.
I didnt buy at the $40 either, I could have but I measured the risk and I passed. $40 was too risky. I started buying back in after a 7 month hiatus in December when it first touched $23 and then again when it hit that shortly ago and Ive been buying all the way down to $14 making me average costing up from my original $11 average.
I already learned my lesson really hard with Gamestop not to buy into a inflated stock like that.
So why $15 level? Because it makes alot of sense when it comes to risk/reward ratio.
Plus if you watched the video he explains why today, and today is a special day in the Ape community.
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ax1
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When did Trey tell anybody to get in at $40 anyways?
I was with Trey every single day, day after day, from the $8-$14 range for months, through little rips, through depressing dips. IT felt like it was forever. Thats when I bought in, and bought in, and bought in, and kept raising my position, not because he said I should but because I saw a great opportunity. Once it ripped past $14 I said fuq that shyt Im done buying.
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ax1
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I guess we can settle our matters here, soooo...whatsup?? I aint fuqqing selling, LMFAO!!!!!
ax1
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I found that Fidelity letter to the SE, we all are going to have to interpret ourselves what this means but Fidelity's concern was this below, but imo its pretty mind blowing.
"The inclusion of short positions in the required reporting under the proposed rule would be inappropriate from a securities lending market perspective, as well as potentially misleading, as it could result in inaccurate double counting of loans, and will create confusion in the marketplace (side note, haha nope we arent confused!) frustrating the legislative intent and regulatory goals of the proposal"
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ax1
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Do me one favor, I just figured this all out. Use your calculator and divide $100,000 by $15 and see how many shares you get.
The code is cracked! To Uranus!!!!
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BamBam54
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Trey (and anyone else who actually believes this is going to short squeeze to the hundreds or thousands) should have been eager to buy in at the $40's or $30's or $20's with everything they've got. He's been saying buy and hold for months now. If he REALLY believed it was going to squeeze, even $40 would yield 10x or 20x or 50x your investment (with $30 or $20 gaining even more!). Who wouldn't do that, if that is what you really believed???? I guess I just got caught believing in a kid with a shaved head laughing like a retard in a hotel room. Lesson learned :-(
Seeing him wait until $15 now makes me think he doesn't actually believe in the hype he is selling, or he would have thrown that money in earlier if he REALLY believed it was going to short spike to the hundreds or thousands. Now it looks like he is just pumping and dumping, day trading on our blood. If he made a big buy at $15, how many sells did he make too?? Lou may be nuts, but he doesn't seem fake or two-faced like this Trey kid.
Seeing Trey waiting for $15 makes all his pumping and hyping for the "short squeeze" sounds like bullshit now. I know you might believe in this Trey kid... but you might also believe we never landed on the moon, or that secret government space lasers fried cars in NY on 9/11. Just saying, maybe try a little more skepticism because this story (at least from Trey) is starting to feel like another wild conspiracy theory....
Seeing him wait until $15 now makes me think he doesn't actually believe in the hype he is selling, or he would have thrown that money in earlier if he REALLY believed it was going to short spike to the hundreds or thousands. Now it looks like he is just pumping and dumping, day trading on our blood. If he made a big buy at $15, how many sells did he make too?? Lou may be nuts, but he doesn't seem fake or two-faced like this Trey kid.
Seeing Trey waiting for $15 makes all his pumping and hyping for the "short squeeze" sounds like bullshit now. I know you might believe in this Trey kid... but you might also believe we never landed on the moon, or that secret government space lasers fried cars in NY on 9/11. Just saying, maybe try a little more skepticism because this story (at least from Trey) is starting to feel like another wild conspiracy theory....
ax1
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Not financial advice, but you can always sell off your AMC shares before its too late and consider investing in index funds
I mean this play isnt everyone's cup of tea, for many of us its primarily a short squeeze play and thats that no matter who is on youtube. There is no guarantees, everyone has to take their own risk, and risk losing it all.
ValiantThor08
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Anyone feel like we won???
Jeeez, if this is winning then I'd hate to see what losing looks like!!
It feels like we won, but the person owing us wants to prolong giving out the cash as long as possible.
ValiantThor08
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Most production companies are going back to theater only releases for the initial release.
ValiantThor08
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I get what you saying. This is where risk and fear comes in. Even though someone can be convinced of something, like the squeeze, there is always the “what if” in the back of their head. Also, one reason to wait until 15 is, one can buy a lot more shares at 15 than at 40, and I guess everyone assumed the possibility of it dropping to 15 or below was a reality. Lo and behold, here we are. With AMC getting their debt down, acquiring theaters, adding crypto, potential partnership with Gamestop, NFTs tied to certain movies, starting side businesses, like selling popcorn, listening to the investors, looking for ways to evolve, I believe when short season is over, the stock will have a new all time high stable price, probably between 30 and 60 dollars, post squeeze.
BamBam54
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I'm still willing to gamble some money on Lou, just cause I like him. But this Trey kid is a con man for sure. Someone needs to hack release his trading action because I guarantee he's been F-ing us buying and selling every step of the way.
And FWIW, I am now certain this thing never even hits $1000. And I'd be willing to take some bets here on that, to maybe win back some of my AMC losses.
And FWIW, I am now certain this thing never even hits $1000. And I'd be willing to take some bets here on that, to maybe win back some of my AMC losses.
ValiantThor08
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I'm still willing to gamble some money on Lou, just cause I like him. But this Trey kid is a con man for sure. Someone needs to hack release his trading action because I guarantee he's been F-ing us buying and selling every step of the way.
And FWIW, I am now certain this thing never even hits $1000. And I'd be willing to take some bets here on that, to maybe win back some of my AMC losses.
When all is said and done, I don’t believe you’ll have any loss
ax1
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I'm still willing to gamble some money on Lou, just cause I like him. But this Trey kid is a con man for sure. Someone needs to hack release his trading action because I guarantee he's been F-ing us buying and selling every step of the way.
And FWIW, I am now certain this thing never even hits $1000. And I'd be willing to take some bets here on that, to maybe win back some of my AMC losses.
Trey is one of the most respected members of the AMC community but if you feel suspect I’m cool with that.
I have my first bracket at $283 now and stepping up and holding a bucket in case it does hit $1000, but I’m securing money and my mind that’s for sure.
GQdaLEGEND
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Totally understand where you are coming from brother .. and agree to some parts
Trey - as a trader , nope don’t trust him or Matt kohrs .. not even a trust thing I think it’s more if I do believe they have traded in and out of AMC at times and made shyt loads of $ in options
Not hating on someone making $ it’s what they put out and pple believe to be they are “the movement” “ nice people “
I do think it will run but I’ll never risk it all
Gme & amc runs at the same time .. if amc hits a 1k that wil mean gme will be over 5k
My advice and I’ve done with this with other stocks
If u feel like you have more then enough shares and have more $ u want invested in .. when it breaks even .. take out and then jump back in with half the shares
I’ve done this so many times with sens, mmat, prog
^ still holding all 3 but have traded few times just to break even and then reenter
Stay strong man .. it’s your $ don’t let youtuber tell u anything .. you might miss out or you gonna make the best decision to reinvest somewhere
Transparency act does help us retailers let’s see when it’s put in action
ax1
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Keep in mind, there is nothing wrong with trading options while holding your shares. Alot of them openly did that and its good to make money all along the way, I wish I did so myself but Im not comfortably knowledgeable enough to do so as of now.
The fact is Roaring Kitty laid out the whole blueprint on trading options during the short squeeze play while holding the long positions. He used to post his weekly options calls on Reddit every week and made millions. What they are doing now imo is infiltrators making up FUD as all of this unravels and its going to get worse and worse. I really cant wait to move on with my life, lol.
Now, if your playing puts thats bad, but there is no evidence Trey or Matt have done so, and there is alot of effort to discredit them and we all know who is out to get them. Some people were trying to make the case that Matt sold off by posting a clip of him saying "I have no risk" which is true, but I watched several hundred hours of him and I do remember his saying that a few times, but the truth is that he was taken out of context because his point is that his cost average was so low that he really had no risk.
Of course keeping up your guard is fine, we really cant trust anyone, but I do know one side has been putting out an effort to divide us and they are using guerilla warfare tactics. If it wasnt for people like Trey and Matt early on, really the community as a whole rallying and promoting the play, I dont think we would be still well alive in the play today.
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Lou thinks they will run them almost side by side in value, and that AMC is simply the bigger play because the level of synthetics is much higher along with far more holders but I dunno, nobody really knows whats going to happen and what tricks including the government will play.
ax1
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My next goals
If it doesnt start popping and dips in 14s, I will hit 2022 shares on Monday or Tuesday to represent whats hopefully our year....only need 16 to get there. Depending on funds clearing made the transfer today.
...but that may be short lived, my other goal is if AMC gets pushed under $10 Im liquidating several grand of Lucid and officially making AMC a YOLO play (not including crypto) other than a few of my dividend MMATPL shares and Carnegie Clean Energy which Im held hostage to. Unless Lucid keeps tanking then I may just hold it and not do that swap.
If that swap play happens Ill create another lower bracket at $183 and dump those shares right there if we ever hit that.
If AMC hits a penny I wont be happy buy my life will move on and be fine. Only risking what I can afford to lose. That there is something I almost consider impossible anyways, being pinned in the higher single digits is more realistic and I would have plenty to play with moving forward and make a comeback worst case scenario.
If it doesnt start popping and dips in 14s, I will hit 2022 shares on Monday or Tuesday to represent whats hopefully our year....only need 16 to get there. Depending on funds clearing made the transfer today.
...but that may be short lived, my other goal is if AMC gets pushed under $10 Im liquidating several grand of Lucid and officially making AMC a YOLO play (not including crypto) other than a few of my dividend MMATPL shares and Carnegie Clean Energy which Im held hostage to. Unless Lucid keeps tanking then I may just hold it and not do that swap.
If that swap play happens Ill create another lower bracket at $183 and dump those shares right there if we ever hit that.
If AMC hits a penny I wont be happy buy my life will move on and be fine. Only risking what I can afford to lose. That there is something I almost consider impossible anyways, being pinned in the higher single digits is more realistic and I would have plenty to play with moving forward and make a comeback worst case scenario.
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ax1
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No problem, dunno why you made the attempt to pull out your phone while your in paradise!!!! LOL
He because there are so many more people in AMC now that $500-$800 is still his primary 1st bracket, but his 2nd bracket of $1,000-$5000 is now riskier and depend on spikes and FOMO.
And he is also reminding people the extended hours in morning or post where there is less control are more likely to have the biggest peaks....which has been true in the past.
So basically he is being more conservative with his $1000 plus range than in the past. He is considering the 2nd bracket "the crazy world." He no longer sees $5000-$10000 because we are too big and this has gone too long.
ax1
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Lou also warned to stay away from people with skis.
BamBam54
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I'm in a ground blind tent, so can surf the web a bit killing time. And already shot one small doe so no pressure...
Didn't Lou previously say that even $300 across that many shares could equal a trillion total dollars? Meaning the practical reality that this thing has certain financial limits.... and a trillion dollars isn't going to magically appear
Didn't Lou previously say that even $300 across that many shares could equal a trillion total dollars? Meaning the practical reality that this thing has certain financial limits.... and a trillion dollars isn't going to magically appear
ax1
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He said $300-$500 might be rough waters but not his brackets.
He is outside trying to remember these numbers but its pretty easy to look up on a official level, but that doesnt include value of synthetics. $300x500million official shares=$150 billion.....so if he said a trillion maybe he was guesstimating synthetics but nobody knows.
He said today $1,000 is a trillion dollars, its really 500 billion if you do the math but again I think he is just guesstimating the unknown.
ax1
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Congrats on the shot, may I ask what kind of gun and ammo size your using? Scope or iron?
Im not a hunter but I love guns and target shooting.
ax1
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Thats looks like alot of fun, Ill get one some day we have a archery range at my club.