stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

[Force of Green]

personal is the key word.
results can vary greatly from one person to the next due to various issues.
i can offer personal experience as an opinion and offer my thoughts on my experience, but one person and their personal experience means very little on the grand scale. your data would be listed out with 100 others and then research data could be drawn.
i can understand if you feel your body doesn't respond to this supplement or another supplement, but you cannot generalize it and decide that it applies to all. that is how it your previous posts seemed to be directed.

In my personal experience, when I admitted myself into rehab for 35 days and was forced to take a break from everything and deal with things through lots of cognitive and spiritual therapy, I noticed a significant 'return to balance' that helped me more than any supplement ever did. Then I started supplements soon after and when therapy wasn't mandatory, etc. I drifted back. This was MY personal experience and it was indeed quite functional. If this is a utopian theory, based on all systems in the utopia working together as a functional whole, than call me a socialist.

 

[dsohei]

In my personal experience, when I admitted myself into rehab for 35 days and was forced to take a break from everything and deal with things through lots of cognitive and spiritual therapy, I noticed a significant 'return to balance' that helped me more than any supplement ever did. Then I started supplements soon after and when therapy wasn't mandatory, etc. I drifted back. This was MY personal experience and it was indeed quite functional. If this is a utopian theory, based on all systems in the utopia working together as a functional whole, than call me a socialist.

Supplements are not a replacement for behavioral healing. I'm glad you were put in an environment that forced you to stop distracting yourself and focus on learning better choices. I hope you didn't drift back to the place you were before you found some peace, but if you did I hope you're not blaming it on supplements you took.

 

[Force of Green]

Supplements are not a replacement for behavioral healing. I'm glad you were put in an environment that forced you to stop distracting yourself and focus on learning better choices. I hope you didn't drift back to the place you were before you found some peace, but if you did I hope you're not blaming it on supplements you took.

Thanks dsohei. One thing that I am working on now (and am pretty close to completing) is releasing blame and accepting that I am responsible for what happens to me based on choices I make. I am clean from any illicit substances, but I am trying to take on too many things at once and I find myself not accomplishing a whole lot lately.

 

[dsohei]

personal is the key word.
results can vary greatly from one person to the next due to various issues.
i can offer personal experience as an opinion and offer my thoughts on my experience, but one person and their personal experience means very little on the grand scale. your data would be listed out with 100 others and then research data could be drawn.
i can understand if you feel your body doesn't respond to this supplement or another supplement, but you cannot generalize it and decide that it applies to all. that is how it your previous posts seemed to be directed.

My goal is not to invent a silver bullet. I believe everyone is different enough to warrant diligent self experimentation and data tracking. However, believing that the body will heal or stabilize itself to a similar or enhanced level is against natural laws. Every living thing on this planet is in a state of decay, some faster some slower. If the organism doesn't have the right resources, somehow can't use the right resources, is being blocked by a substance etc, then it will decay faster. Young people, genetically and culturally lucky people seem to heal quickly due to large amounts of youth hormones. Once those hormones are used up or are made in smaller amounts, decay or aging occurs.

Again, I am less concerned with certainty or the average consensus than I am with personal experimentation and data sharing.

 

[dsohei]

Thanks dsohei. One thing that I am working on now (and am pretty close to completing) is releasing blame and accepting that I am responsible for what happens to me based on choices I make. I am clean from any illicit substances, but I am trying to take on too many things at once and I find myself not accomplishing a whole lot lately.

In my twenties I was on one kind of bender after another, substances and emotional craziness. It wasn't until I started a 6 year meditation program that I moved past it all (this isn't bragging, "moving past" trauma and deeply held beliefs often looks like a nervous breakdown itself). All of the non physical skills, whether they're called emotional, social, communicative, creative, empathic... Exist intertwined with physiological and biochemical health. Do both and both sets will advance together.

Force of green, once you know your weak spots, you can outsmart yourself before you get too far off the rails. Track the data. I know that I start making bad choices if I drink alcohol so I stopped, also if I start becoming obsessed about something or think I only have a few choices in a situation - these are clues that my weak spot had been hooked and I can choose to unhook it.