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no **** is right. Man, the first time i took it first thing in the AM on empty, 3hrs later i was crappin for two hours straight.
However, when i took it again with food, i felt the effects and very minor appetite suppression. Both were far less than before with the orignal, most notably the suppression was not as severe (which in my case is good..for now).
I still would like to get ahold of the orignal formula.