Starting P-mag log!!!

Lankeyguy15 · Nov 28, 2011

So this will be my first PH and P-mag log. Im starting pre loading today of Cycle Assist and Hawthorne berry. I will be running this for 5 weeks of 50/75/75/75/75 and pct for 4-5 with Nolva pills. I will update with current weight and workout schedule and everything! I plan to eat 4500 on workout days and at least 3800 on no workout days!



Flat Bench	1x6.....2x5.....2x4		200.215.225	310
Incline Bench	5	5	135.145.165.175.190

Barbell Row	3	8	150	185
Lat Pull Down	3	8	140	160	20
Jobes	3	30	2.5
Laybrum raise	3	15	60	60
Sitting row	3	8	115	155	20

Dumbbell shrug	3	12	225

Squat	5	5	230	275	5

Leg Extension	3	8	210	250	40
Hip Flexor	3	15	100	100
Calf raises	3	8	6 plates	max
Groin stretch		Medicine ball air toss		3x12
Rope Tricept exentsion	3	8	60	70
Bicep Curl cable	4	10.8.6.4	30.40.50,60
Tricept Exentsion single	4	10.8.6.4	30.40.50.60
Double Biceps	3	8	60

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I will be doing the MM2k Bench Program! It worked for me last time So hopefully it will now again on P-mag! and for LEgs I will be doing 20 rep squat but once a week...Unless you guys think I should just do 5x5 once a week because Im at 5x230 and if I do 1x20 it will take like 7 weeks to get to 1x20 of 230 and instead I can already be at 230 and working up so let me know!

Heres the supps:
Tomax (nolva) 20/20/10/10 mg's
TCF-1 3g/3g/3g/3g
PES Erase 1/1/2/2/3/3
tbol (optional) 0/0/0/6/6/6

During the cycle its Animal flex, Orange triad, Cycle assist, P-mag Fish Oil, Muscle Juice Protein

PCT: Cycle Assist, Orange Triad, Green Mag, Fish oil, Tomax

Hoping to get to at least 195

Enric · Nov 28, 2011

Good luck! Just finished pmag ended up going to 100mg Weeks 4,5,6 since I had zero sides.

Lankeyguy15 · Nov 28, 2011

Sounds good, how much weight gain? I think im also going to switch from Incline Bar to Dumbbell on the cycle because I couldnt even finish my set, maybe I didnt eat enough? IDK

AaronJP1 · Nov 28, 2011

I'm on it now 9 days in.

Lankeyguy15 · Nov 28, 2011

So Today was first day of loading and this is what I did

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Flat Bench

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1x6.....2x5.....2x4

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200.215.225

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Incline Bench

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5

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135.145.165.175.190

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Barbell Row

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3

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160

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Weight is in at 177, I really need to get to 183 at least before I start popping P-mag so lets go!!! 4k a day for 2 weeks before I start popping.

Lankeyguy15 · Nov 28, 2011

What you got for PCT? and hows your setup? and notice anything yet?

AaronJP1 · Nov 28, 2011

Lankeyguy15 said:
What you got for PCT? and hows your setup? and notice anything yet?

I'm only running 50mg for 4 weeks.
It's my 1st cycle. I have torem (SERM) on hand doubt I will need it though. Will use OTC PCT.
I also went with halotest-25.
I'm in my 2nd week (day 9 or 10) really did not see much until today.... Today I feel like it's "working".
I'm also doing a mild dose too though.
I brought two more bottles of CEL p-mag which is same as halotest-25 but about $15 cheaper to have for future cycles, because they are discontinuing the CEL product. No sides cept for a slight headache it's very mild.

AaronJP1 · Nov 28, 2011

Look in AI Life Support, helps headache, cholesterol & protects liver.

Lankeyguy15 · Nov 30, 2011

So today was Leg day and this wis what I did:
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Workout was ok, I hate that the heater is on when its cold outside, but School is almost over so the gym will not have anyone in it and I will be able to workout without waiting for dumb ass people!

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 3, 2011

Friday workout was better then I thought This is what I did:
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I was only suppose to do 1/2 of 265 which is a negative but actually did a fully rep which is good! weight is in at 181 going on to 2nd week of loading so hopefully I can get to 185 by the end of this week!

AaronJP1 · Dec 3, 2011

How ya feeling on p-mag?

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 3, 2011

I havent actually started yet! Im pre loading Cycle Assist and Hawthorne Berry I start the week before Christmas which is the 12th i believe at 50mg then up to 75 for 4 more

AaronJP1 · Dec 3, 2011

Lankeyguy15 said:
I havent actually started yet! Im pre loading Cycle Assist and Hawthorne Berry I start the week before Christmas which is the 12th i believe at 50mg then up to 75 for 4 more

Oops

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 5, 2011

Todays workouts consisted of :
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Barbell Row

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Lat Pull Down

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Weight is at 185

AaronJP1 · Dec 5, 2011

What was your starting weight?

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 5, 2011

177 I believe was my lowest and this is just with eating and not even that much, so should hopefully see BIG GAINS!

AaronJP1 · Dec 5, 2011

Lankeyguy15 said:
177 I believe was my lowest and this is just with eating and not even that much, so should hopefully see BIG GAINS!

I have not gained much on my cycle. I seem to be having a nice recomp effect and some nice strength gains

What are you dosing at for how long.
I'm keep mine at 50mg may just go 6 weeks though.

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 6, 2011

maybe eat more? How many cal you eating? Im going to eat 4k-4500 and 50 for 1st then 75 for 4

AaronJP1 said:
I have not gained much on my cycle. I seem to be having a nice recomp effect and some nice strength gains

What are you dosing at for how long.
I'm keep mine at 50mg may just go 6 weeks though.

AaronJP1 · Dec 6, 2011

Lankeyguy15 said:
maybe eat more? How many cal you eating? Im going to eat 4k-4500 and 50 for 1st then 75 for 4

ounds like a good cycle.
I eat about 3k-3500 but some days are low can't blame it...

I also was reading this. There could be a lot of factors diet, training intensity, low mild dose.
I read some people are unresponders (maybe diet) and also that it may not kick in until end of week 2...

NuclearLaunch · Dec 6, 2011

Always in for a log. Looking to do a light cycle after a good lean bulk cycle. P-mag and M1-D have my vote right now so I will be following along.

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 7, 2011

Today was legs and did
[TABLE="class: cms_table"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]

WEDNESDAY!!

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Squat

[/TD]
[TD]

5

[/TD]
[TD]

5

[/TD]
[TD]

235

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]

DL

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]230[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Leg Extension

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

210

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Hip Flexor

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

12

[/TD]
[TD]

100

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Calf raises

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

180

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Rope Tricept exentsion

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

60

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Bicep Curl cable

[/TD]
[TD]

4

[/TD]
[TD]

10.8.6

[/TD]
[TD]

30.40.50,60

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Tricept Exentsion single

[/TD]
[TD]

4

[/TD]
[TD]

10.8.6

[/TD]
[TD]

30.40.50.60

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Double Biceps

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

60

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
weight at 184

AaronJP1 · Dec 7, 2011

Noticing any pros/cons yet?

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 7, 2011

*sigh* Im not on P-mag yet. This is my 2nd and last week of preloading Cycle assist and Hawthorne berry. I start P-mag Monday.

AaronJP1 · Dec 7, 2011

Lankeyguy15 said:
*sigh* Im not on P-mag yet. This is my 2nd and last week of preloading Cycle assist and Hawthorne berry. I start P-mag Monday.

I keep forgetting sorry. I'm subbed to so many threads.
Usually best to start the log when taking the product...
I check back in with ya in a week or so to see how things are going.

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 8, 2011

Sounds good thanks

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 9, 2011

Weight 185

This is what i did

[TABLE="class: cms_table_cms_table"]
[TR]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Bench
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
2x3....2x2... 1x 1/2
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
235...245...275
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Russian Twist
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
10
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
10
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
12
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Side Crunches
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
20
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Leg Lifts
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
15
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
0
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
25
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
Flat plank
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
30sec
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]
Superman
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]
12
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
Biceps Curl
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
15.12.10
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
5.10.15
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
Triceps Kickback
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
15.12.10
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
5.10.15
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 12, 2011

So today was first day actually on p-mag! I felt the pump, but no gain in strength yet and I will be checking weight every sunday morning so its not up and down. This is what I did today

Flat Bench	1x6.....2x5.....1x5		215..225..240


Barbell Row	3	8	155
Lat Pull Down	3	8	140
Jobes	3	30	2.5
Laybrum raise	3	15	60
Sitting row	3	8	130
Dumbbell shrug	3	12	225

[TD="bgcolor: #bd2c5c"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #bd2c5c"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #bd2c5c"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #bd2c5c"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #bd2c5c"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #bd2c5c"][/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

DB Incline

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

3

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

8

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

70

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

[/TD]

AaronJP1 · Dec 12, 2011

It'll take 3-4 weeks that's what I heard :thumbsup:

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 12, 2011

I heard 2nd week, but we will see

MurphyMove · Dec 12, 2011

Lankeyguy15 said:
I heard 2nd week, but we will see

I heard end of week 2 from others, but for me weight went up a little in week 3, but the gains really did not kick in until week 4. I am interested in how different bodies respond quicker than others.

Also, I did not gain much strength--I would say it was more of an endurance gain. Could have a lot to do with training style, diet, immediately previous training history (for me it was a cut), etc.

AaronJP1 · Dec 12, 2011

MurphyMove said:
I heard end of week 2 from others, but for me weight went up a little in week 3, but the gains really did not kick in until week 4. I am interested in how different bodies respond quicker than others.

Also, I did not gain much strength--I would say it was more of an endurance gain. Could have a lot to do with training style, diet, immediately previous training history (for me it was a cut), etc.

I quit my cycle early cause I was expecting something in weeks 2-3 should've just finished it up to 4.

MurphyMove · Dec 12, 2011

AaronJP1 said:
I quit my cycle early cause I was expecting something in weeks 2-3 should've just finished it up to 4.

Too bad man! You should have stuck it out! They say the longer it takes something to get in your system, the more likely the gains are going to stick. I don't know that this rule applies to everything, but I am hoping it happens in my case!

AaronJP1 · Dec 12, 2011

MurphyMove said:
Too bad man! You should have stuck it out! They say the longer it takes something to get in your system, the more likely the gains are going to stick. I don't know that this rule applies to everything, but I am hoping it happens in my case!

I'm going to run some alpha mass and decavol. Goes against most rules on what I did with p-mag but hey we're all grown men here lol.

I actually had phenomal results off of AMS 1-AD, 4-AD, DecaVol believe it or not some was water but I put on a juicy 10lbs.

MurphyMove · Dec 12, 2011

AaronJP1 said:
I'm going to run some alpha mass and decavol. Goes against most rules on what I did with p-mag but hey we're all grown men here lol.

I actually had phenomal results off of AMS 1-AD, 4-AD, DecaVol believe it or not some was water but I put on a juicy 10lbs.

Cool. I had to look up the decavol (I was unfamiliar). So you ran the AMS stack? Or what? And how long was your cycle that you ran and gained 10lbs? (If you logged it, feel free to just add a link)

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 15, 2011

Here is what I did today
[TABLE="class: cms_table_cms_table"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]

WEDNESDAY!!

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Squat

[/TD]
[TD]

5

[/TD]
[TD]

5

[/TD]
[TD]

240

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]

DL

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]255[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Leg Extension

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

220

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Hip Flexor

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

12

[/TD]
[TD]

100

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Calf raises

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

180

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Rope Tricept exentsion

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

60

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Bicep Curl cable

[/TD]
[TD]

4

[/TD]
[TD]

10.8.6

[/TD]
[TD]

30.40.50

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Tricept Exentsion single

[/TD]
[TD]

4

[/TD]
[TD]

10.8.6

[/TD]
[TD]

30.40.50

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Double Biceps

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

60

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

AaronJP1 · Dec 15, 2011

MurphyMove said:
Cool. I had to look up the decavol (I was unfamiliar). So you ran the AMS stack? Or what? And how long was your cycle that you ran and gained 10lbs? (If you logged it, feel free to just add a link)

I'll be breif I dont want to skew his log.
Never logged it was my first cycle back
I'm August timeframe part of the reason I joined this site.
What made me select it was it was a "prohormone" and it was no liver toxic and I could purchase a whole "kit" with multiple stacked products and PCT.
I blew up I was eating and lifting a lot. I had better results that on p-mag. To respect p-mag my diet/lifting and dose could've all been off. I liked the AMS products a lot had a ton of acne. Got my decavol an alpha on the way thinking of a dosing scheme.

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 16, 2011

Thought I was noticing some difference, but I guess not. This is what I did today

[TABLE="class: cms_table_cms_table_cms_table"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Bench
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
2x3....2x2... 1x 1/2
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
240...250...280
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Russian Twist
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
10
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
10
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
12
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Side Crunches
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
20
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Leg Lifts
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
15
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
0
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
25
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
Flat plank
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
30sec
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]
Superman
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]
12
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
Biceps Curl
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
15.12.10.8
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
5.10.15.20
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
Triceps Kickback
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
15.12.10.8
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
5.10.15.20
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

AaronJP1 · Dec 16, 2011

They say that there p-mag takes a while to kick in

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 16, 2011

ya haha, I felt the pump on monday, so I thought it would be different for me, but hopefully end of week 2!

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 18, 2011

1st sunday weigh in! Weight seems to be hovering around 189!

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 19, 2011

WOW WHAT A WORKOUT!!! at 75mg it kicked in DAY 1 of 2nd week! I was fully pumped and did 2 sets of bench at 240 for 6 reps most in a long time and everything else went up also! HEre is what I did!

Flat Bench	1x6.....1x5 1x3.....1x6		220..240..240

Barbell Row	3	8	165
Lat Pull Down	3	8	140	160	20
Jobes	3	30	2.5
Laybrum raise	3	15	60	60
Sitting row	3	8	145	155	20
Dumbbell shrug	3	12	205

[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

DB Incline

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

3

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

8

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

75

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #ffffff"]

[/TD]

AaronJP1 · Dec 19, 2011

Pretty soon you'll have to change ya name to massive guy

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 19, 2011

Haha im 6'3 Id need to be at least 215-220 to look like I weigh over 200 pounds

MurphyMove · Dec 19, 2011

Right on! I am glad it has kicked in already. I was not sure it was working for me until the beginning of week 4.

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 21, 2011

HOLY ****! Anyone know how much taurine Im allowed to take?? Back pumps freaking suck!!!

I had to DL less because it was so bad. Here is what I did:

[TABLE="class: cms_table_cms_table_cms_table"]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]

WEDNESDAY!!

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Squat

[/TD]
[TD]

5

[/TD]
[TD]

5

[/TD]
[TD]

245

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]

DL

[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"]235[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #BD2C5C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Leg Extension

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

220

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Hip Flexor

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

15

[/TD]
[TD]

110

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Calf raises

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

15

[/TD]
[TD]

190

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Rope Tricept exentsion

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

8

[/TD]
[TD]

60

[/TD]
[TD]

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Bicep Curl cable

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

10.8.6

[/TD]
[TD]

30.40.50

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Tricept Exentsion single

[/TD]
[TD]

3

[/TD]
[TD]

10.8.6

[/TD]
[TD]

30.40.50

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

Double Biceps

[/TD]
[TD]

2

[/TD]
[TD]

8

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[TD]

60 1x8 70

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Lankeyguy15 · Dec 23, 2011

found it 3-6g 3 pre 3 after which would be 3000mg - 6000mg i believe

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 24, 2011

This is what I did yesterday:

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Bench
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2x3....2x2... 1x 1/2
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[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
245...260...290
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[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Russian Twist
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[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
10
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
10
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
12
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Side Crunches
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
20
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
Leg Lifts
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
15
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
0
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"]
25
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F6EA4E"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]

[/TD]
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[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
Flat plank
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]
30sec
[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]

[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
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[/TR]
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[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]
Superman
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]
3
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"]
12
[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFA68"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #F1709C"]

[/TD]
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[/TR]
[/TABLE]

AaronJP1 · Dec 24, 2011

From the mobile AM app we can't really make out what you're typing all I see is the word "table"....

Either way are we coming up on week 2 for ya?

Lankeyguy15 · Dec 24, 2011

Just finished week 2 of pmag but first week of 75 and there are signs of kicking in, but I expect bigger things week three. Im having some issues eating enough which seems to be the only thing holding me back.

AaronJP1 · Dec 24, 2011

Lankeyguy15 said:
Just finished week 2 of pmag but first week of 75 and there are signs of kicking in, but I expect bigger things week three. Im having some issues eating enough which seems to be the only thing holding me back.

I didn't like p-mag too much.

Starting P-mag log!!!

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