Starting cycle anxiety, please help!

Jwag17

New member
I have been researching prohormones for some time now, and I thought I was ready. Well I still think I am ready, I bought the n2guard, hawthorne, thistle, etc along with my purchase of the chlorovar. I was planning on starting today, I already took my n2guard and fish oil, and I am planning on taking the chlorovar in a few hours. I was going to take one this morning but it seems for some reason when it comes to swallowing down that pill, I get some heavy anxiety about it. Like to many what ifs pop into my head, what if my liver fails, what if it makes me have horrible sides, etc.

I wouldn't say that I am not ready to do this but for some reason, my head starts playing some mind games. I was diagnosed with a hiatal hernia last year along with gerd, and I haven't felt quite right ever since, even though my body is physically fit for activity now as the hernia healed fully, I just overall have felt drained all the time, from what I do not know-maybe stress or physical exhaustion from work. I really want to take the chlorovar. I dont know if I have anxiety or what but its being difficult for me be confident about taking it.

Any words of wisdom or encouragement?

My current stats are I am 5'9" 180 lbs, and I am guessing I am at 20% bf, maybe a little more or less I am purely guessing. And I was planning on running a cutting cycle as my first cycle.

Also note I started phenylvar, an epi clone about three months ago and 1 week in I got horrible dry joints, but the same thing was happening then, my brain would give me symptoms that are not there. I even went as far as to cut off the warning label lol. Am I just nuts, or what.
 
If you BF estimate is correct, which it's probably low since most visuals are, I say you need more time lifting and eating at your size before going any further with the PH's. As for anxiety IMO it's a mental thing and can't really give you any advice on how to cope with that. Seems like subconsciously your not on board with what your doing and this could be a manifestation of that physically. Again I really don't know what s going on it's just speculation and my 2 cents.
 
tilldeath said:
If you BF estimate is correct, which it's probably low since most visuals are, I say you need more time lifting and eating at your size before going any further with the PH's. As for anxiety IMO it's a mental thing and can't really give you any advice on how to cope with that. Seems like subconsciously your not on board with what your doing and this could be a manifestation of that physically. Again I really don't know what s going on it's just speculation and my 2 cents.
Click to expand...

That does make a lot of sense. Like mentally I want to but at the same time part of me is daying well you can do damage to yourself at the same time. Maybe I over analyze things and read into them too much. As for the bf% I mean I want to cut down, but at the same time I don't want to lose muscle which was why I was going to take the chlorovar to maintain my muscle and cut down bf%. I bought the stuff and I still want to take it. I just idk this is nerve wrecking I am having this issue. My buddy took epi no problem, cousin has done three cycles of trimethyl no prob. And my cousin is a few months younger than me. I'm 23. And my friend that took epi was 30.
 
I feel you as to not wanting to loose muscle while cutting, but honestly the muscle loss will be fairly minimal if you don't drastically cut your calories and take it nice and slow. Granted it is tedious and perseverance is a must, but you'll be nicely rewarded with a leaner physique and better off for when you go into a bulk. That being said, seems like since you have it you'll more than likely use it, so I'd say take it keep you diet on point and speak with your doctor about something to help with anxiety possibly. I know Kava helps me if I get stressed out so you can give that a shot.
 
tilldeath said:
I feel you as to not wanting to loose muscle while cutting, but honestly the muscle loss will be fairly minimal if you don't drastically cut your calories and take it nice and slow. Granted it is tedious and perseverance is a must, but you'll be nicely rewarded with a leaner physique and better off for when you go into a bulk. That being said, seems like since you have it you'll more than likely use it, so I'd say take it keep you diet on point and speak with your doctor about something to help with anxiety possibly. I know Kava helps me if I get stressed out so you can give that a shot.
Click to expand...

Is kava a prescription medication? Its not so much I am worried about not taking the chlorovar as it is I have like 60 bucks tied up in the n2guard+shipping, and then I have money in the forged joint repair I bought as well, and then another 60 in the chlorovar. Its a lot of money tied up to be sitting on a shelf losing potentcy as the days go on. Thats my only concern is shelf life. But I may just give it a shot. The n2guard is actually making me feel less tired and more "normal me" I guess you could say. But is that Kava like a anti depressant, or just an anti anxiety?
 
Kava, any health food store should have it. Best to get the highest concentration of it you can find. Just relaxes you and mellows. Almost like a mild version of Valium.
 
Some info on it
Invalid Link Removed

and an article
Invalid Link Removed
 
Prohormones/Steroids can have detrimental effects on those prone to anxiety. Before you even think about cycling make sure you deal with this anxiety issue. Kava Kava, Taurine, and GABA are also other supplements that may be of particular use to you.
 
So according to the article, kava is liver toxic, and should not be used in conjunction with other supplements that are liver toxic? So if I were to take kava, which it sounds pretty great, I should not use it while taking any methylated prohormone?
 
Axillist said:
Prohormones/Steroids can have detrimental effects on those prone to anxiety. Before you even think about cycling make sure you deal with this anxiety issue. Kava Kava, Taurine, and GABA are also other supplements that may be of particular use to you.
Click to expand...

I don't think that I have anxiety in normal day life, it's just when it comes to these prohormones and steroids, I have the anxiety issue. So I dont know if I should just say screw it and go ahead and start a cycle or what. But when you say detrimental effects, what exactly am I looking at could be some of the effects here?
 
U could die, or u could lose the use of ur penis. This happens and it could happen to u. U should stop now before u ruin ur life and the life of ur family. Ur liver will probably give out.
 
csa2179 said:
U could die, or u could lose the use of ur penis. This happens and it could happen to u. U should stop now before u ruin ur life and the life of ur family. Ur liver will probably give out.
Click to expand...

wow! Strong scare post. This ^ may be what is going through your head, but if you are of good health I honestly wouldn't stress about it.
 
tilldeath said:
wow! Strong scare post. This ^ may be what is going through your head, but if you are of good health I honestly wouldn't stress about it.
Click to expand...

On the other hand if you have anxiety before you take it , you will be tripping the whole time bro , plus hormones can toy with your emotions and mood , seriously I would pass bud...
 
james122 said:
On the other hand if you have anxiety before you take it , you will be tripping the whole time bro , plus hormones can toy with your emotions and mood , seriously I would pass bud...
Click to expand...

Well I took the first dose around four pm. I have felt fine other than kind of not feeling fully myself. Like a little cloudy. But other than that first steps ok. Also my burps taste horrid lol
 
tilldeath said:
wow! Strong scare post. This ^ may be what is going through your head, but if you are of good health I honestly wouldn't stress about it.
Click to expand...

Well if I do decide to stop taking them, do you know how long the half life is on each capsule? I mean I feel fine right. But incase I change my mind about it
 
Like 12 hours but the damage they do will stick with u for life. You've probably screwed up ur endocrine system with just that one dose. The problems u will have are unimaginable. What are u going to when ur friends and family find out. They might disown u. Once signs of liver damage sets in its to late.
 
csa2179 said:
Like 12 hours but the damage they do will stick with u for life. You've probably screwed up ur endocrine system with just that one dose. The problems u will have are unimaginable. What are u going to when ur friends and family find out. They might disown u. Once signs of liver damage sets in its to late.
Click to expand...

Dude quit being a d bag. Everyones different. Some people get anxiety about this ****. Some people get anxiety about a dog ****ting on their lawn. This is my first cycle so how about you quit being a troll and a tool around these parts and go back to your cave. Smartass. I can tell sarcasm. I'm not 10 years old your not going to scare me.
 
csa2179 said:
Like 12 hours but the damage they do will stick with u for life. You've probably screwed up ur endocrine system with just that one dose. The problems u will have are unimaginable. What are u going to when ur friends and family find out. They might disown u. Once signs of liver damage sets in its to late.
Click to expand...

And just like when you started riding a bike without training wheels for the first time, you felt a little shooken up I am sure. And I am sure you needed a little encouragement. I come to A.M. for insight and information because I have not been there done that.not for someone to be a prick.
 
I shall receded in to said cave, but just remeber
 
csa2179 said:
I shall receded in to said cave, but just remeber
Click to expand...

Heh :)
 
Jwag17 said:
And just like when you started riding a bike without training wheels for the first time, you felt a little shooken up I am sure. And I am sure you needed a little encouragement. I come to A.M. for insight and information because I have not been there done that.not for someone to be a prick.
Click to expand...

I would recommend you wait at least a couple more years. There are plenty of good non hormonal supplements out there that can help you attain your goals. If you aren't at your body's natural plateau then you don't need them anyway. If you choose to cycle anyway then just be as smart about it as you can. Seek true feedback from this site and follow up with a good PCT. Even if your cycle is 100% spot on there are ALWAYS risks.
 
Taking PH / AAS is a big decision bro. It is a decision that you need to make with full comprehension of the risks and rewards. Whether a risk analysis and cost benefit analysis determines whether or not it is worth it for YOU based upon YOUR goals, values, knowledge, overall health, etc. is something that you need to have your mind made up about before you take that step.

If you are not sure bro, just wait. You can always change your mind later, when you are ready and you know for sure that this is what you want to do.

Take your time bro.
 
Personally, I just stay away from **** that ****s with your liver. Everything else I can monitor, if your liver starts getting ****ed up you might not know until its too late. To each their own, I'm just sayin. That's why I don't do orals and I won't do winny or dbol either. I would love to but it just isn't worth it to me.
 
And if you think starting a cycle is hard, wait until you have to end one, haha.
 
toolband said:
And if you think starting a cycle is hard, wait until you have to end one, haha.
Click to expand...

What do you mean? Its hard ending one because you see all that you have gained and don't want to stop, or its harder to end one physically because you have to build your natural test back up.
 
Jwag17 said:
What do you mean? Its hard ending one because you see all that you have gained and don't want to stop, or its harder to end one physically because you have to build your natural test back up.
Click to expand...

first off its a very low dose of halo and a very low dose of pstanz. second your only doing it for 4 weeks (you really should bump to 6 weeks) halo does not kick in till week 3. you will be fine. it is a healthy fear, just take it easy and enjoy the ride. take some liver supports and have a good pct. i would recomend torem if you have not bought a serm yet (you should have thought). Drink lots of water and eat lots of "nutrition rich foods" to quote airborne. you will enjoy halo (if you run it for 6 weeks)
 
Jwag17 said:
What do you mean? Its hard ending one because you see all that you have gained and don't want to stop, or its harder to end one physically because you have to build your natural test back up.
Click to expand...

the first two weeks of pct are difficult, mainly because strength is down and you dont feel all there. once your natural test picks up your all good
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top