Started My First Cycle

yamaballer

yamaballer

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Well I started my cycle going on 4 weeks ago and I gotta say I am making some serious gains... My plan is to finish this as an 8 week cycle. Only side effects would be that I’m always tired, but when In the gym working out Im wide awake and feel like a monster.

I take this ED:

20mg M-Sten
80mg Trenavar
300mg Vitamin B6 for prolactin suppression
Cycle Support

I had originally bought Clomidex as a PCT however I found out it’s complete ****...

So I got Clomid on the way. The plan is to take it 50/50/25/25 as well as the Clomidex, which apprently is just a T-Booster...

Also I’m 28 years old, 6’1 started the cycle at 220lb..
 
Your first cycle is M-Sten + trenavar for 8 weeks long?? I don't even know who is and isn't trolling any more.
 
I had to take about 6 months off from the gym due to some broken ribs and a punctured lung. So I started back in the gym Nov 5th at

205 bench
225 squat
405 deadlift

Then 6 weeks later (2 weeks into cycle) I maxed again

250 bench
305 squat
475 deadlift
 
That's a very strong cycle for a first one. I've never heard of anyone running m-sten for more than 6 weeks, so maybe someone else could chime in here. I'm sure there are probably some guys in here who have run it to the 8 week mark, but I don't think it's common. I hope your cycle support is good.
 
Definitely no longer then 8. Run your clomid and whatever else you want with it and definitely wait 10-12 weeks before starting another cycle. I'd be willing to bet that after 8 weeks of Msten and trenavar your blood work would look ****ty so give yourself time to get back to normal.

Is there nac or tudca in your cycle support?
 
AnabolicGuru said:
6 weeks of msten is pushing it. I couldn’t even deal to get through 5.
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Everyone is different, in the past I would get pretty much zero negative sides and felt like I could stay on orals forever, I only would stop after 4-6 weeks because I knew it was the safest way.
 
Smont said:
Definitely no longer then 8. Run your clomid and whatever else you want with it and definitely wait 10-12 weeks before starting another cycle. I'd be willing to bet that after 8 weeks of Msten and trenavar your blood work would look ****ty so give yourself time to get back to normal.

Is there nac or tudca in your cycle support?
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Thanks for all the replies.

Yes I definitely plan to take at least 12 weeks before staring another cycle, and yes my cycle support has 400mg of nac..

And I drink a **** ton of water lol
 
210LBS said:
That's a very strong cycle for a first one. I've never heard of anyone running m-sten for more than 6 weeks, so maybe someone else could chime in here. I'm sure there are probably some guys in here who have run it to the 8 week mark, but I don't think it's common. I hope your cycle support is good.
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I feel like lately a lot of guys dont even waste their time to chime in.
Oral steroids 101= never longer than 6 weeks.
 
Wow, I would be sprawled out in a puddle of bloody tears too lethargic to move at the end of this. Hope you got all the gains you were looking for. Don't stop that NAC and TUDCA just because your done with your cycle.
 
Cgkone said:
I feel like lately a lot of guys dont even waste their time to chime in.
Oral steroids 101= never longer than 8 weeks.
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Well my goal is to hit 8 weeks... if I only make it 6 then oh well.. luckily my current situation allows for many naps.. but like I said, I’m a few days away from the week 4 mark
 
Methylated steroids can be very different in toxicity so I feel its wrong to say 6 weeks is some kind of limit. The problem I personally have is that wether it's anadrol or anavar they just won't work very well after a few weeks especially without test. I don't know if there's ever a reason to go beyond 4-5 weeks. The other problem I have is the focus on liver damage and not cardio vascular damage.

To me it's not worth considering gains /sides or gains /damage to push it beyond 6 weeks but I'd rather say 4-5. We like to go by weeks and months when calculating how long we should run something because it's easier. With orals we like to go 4-6-8, why exactly?. Let's look at what it does for us personally instead.
 
There's no magic limit on any of these substances, there's plant safe guidelines and ultimately you're only going to know what you need if you have blood work done. Your most certainly not going to die from 6 to 8 weeks are oral steroid or have some kind of irreversible damage unless you already had pre-existing health conditions.
 
yamaballer said:
Well my goal is to hit 8 weeks... if I only make it 6 then oh well.. luckily my current situation allows for many naps.. but like I said, I’m a few days away from the week 4 mark
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Well Msten for 8 weeks is too long.
At least that's what people use to say on this forum.
Again I'm surprised when you first mentioned it more people didn't try and tell you 8 weeks is too long.
 
Smont said:
Everyone is different, in the past I would get pretty much zero negative sides and felt like I could stay on orals forever, I only would stop after 4-6 weeks because I knew it was the safest way.
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EXACTLY
The liver can take lots of abuse before we "feel it"
We just don't do it because we know better.
We discourage long oral use for the same reason.
 
Msten made me feel great.
I still only sent 5 weeks because I plan to use AAS for another 2O years.
 
It's all about risk/reward. I read tons of logs where people say they wish they would have cut their cycles shorter because their results slowed or stopped and their side effects increased towards the end. Depends on the compound and person, but it's something to consider when running m-sten.
 
Cgkone said:
Well Msten for 8 weeks is too long.
At least that's what people use to say on this forum.
Again I'm surprised when you first mentioned it more people didn't try and tell you 8 weeks is too long.
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Yea if I was taking them separately I’d quit the M-Sten and finish the 8 weeks with just Trenavar.. however they’re combined into one pill..
 
yamaballer said:
Yea if I was taking them separately I’d quit the M-Sten and finish the 8 weeks with just Trenavar.. however they’re combined into one pill..
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I gotcha homie.
No biggie
You'll be fine
The pct lay out you have looks cool too
If you feel like crap after the 4 weeks of Clomid its cool to go another couple weeks just keep tapering down
 
210LBS said:
It's all about risk/reward. I read tons of logs where people say they wish they would have cut their cycles shorter because their results slowed or stopped and their side effects increased towards the end. Depends on the compound and person, but it's something to consider when running m-sten.
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Exactly, people want to go 12 weeks on test e but I don't see it really being thst great after 8-9 weeks. People then ask but if it takes 4 weeks to kick in isn't 10 too short? The gains made in these weeks are way above what one would achieve naturally. I think we want to reassure that we won't miss out on this extra week or two when we really know after using it many times that we won't. Talking about orals the only one I really felt was worth oushing further than 4 weeks was winstrol but then again there extra gains will be lost due to water coming back.
 
At some point your gains will drastically slow down. If your able to gain 16-20lbs in 5 weeks that does not mean your going to gain another 10lbs + if you run it for 3 more weeks. You might not be worried about killing your organs, but the better shape your body is in when you come off means the more likelihood you will have to keep what you have built. It is all about that minimum effective dose.
 
yamaballer said:
It’s called Megatren.. each pill has 5mg msten 20mg trenavar.. I split it up 2 pills morning 2 pills evening
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10mg/day of msten is not too bad for an 8 week cycle, the standard does is usually 20-30mg. Although it is stacked with another oral and I’m not to familiar with the liver toxicity of trenavar tho... nonetheless be safe on your cycle bro and don’t be afraid to slam the breaks if sides get crazy.

P.S. does anyone know any UK retailers who sell msten and ship to the states? PM me plz =]
 
HotGuns57 said:
10mg/day of msten is not too bad for an 8 week cycle, the standard does is usually 20-30mg. Although it is stacked with another oral and I’m not to familiar with the liver toxicity of trenavar tho... nonetheless be safe on your cycle bro and don’t be afraid to slam the breaks if sides get crazy.

P.S. does anyone know any UK retailers who sell msten and ship to the states? PM me plz =]
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Our board sponsor predator nutrition do nanodrol( liquid msten) and they ship to the states
 
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