i stacked it with tbol lv, hdrol clone, on a maintenance diet, a few lbs, but huge recomp....its more of an adjuvant compound, stack it with something wet, and you'll see gains, and itll mitigate sides like lethargy, libido, and estrogen
Androhard is much more of a recomping product, HOWEVER, the new version will put on some very lean lbs. (while you drop fat/harden up) due to nitrogen retention and general anabolism of increased androgens.
I'll send you a PM see if we can work something out, I know the price tag is up there.
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