Never used stano, but i can tell you that you wont see much using proviron, most of the guys swear by it, but even Michael Scally named proviron USELESS, now i did see significant fat loss while using provi, it is just a sugar coat to me, if you want something stronger definately go with a stronger DHT based compound. Altho, proviron would be safe, while stano could fk your lipids more.