Stano Plex Vs Ultra Hard

InItForGainz

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I know that Stano Plex is an oral Epi with vaso 6 and Ultra Hard is a transdermal Epi with androsterone, but which is better for increasing DHT, improving overall mood and libido boost?
 
There's no one set answer there because people respond differently to androsterone.

Some people like androsterone and like the way that it makes them feel, others get some anxiety or moodiness from it.

I haven't used Androsterone in years and never will again bc it makes me want to cry and slap people, not necessarily in that order haha.

If you do decide to use an androsterone product at any point, Iconic's is the one I would suggest.
 
sns8778 said:
If you do decide to use an androsterone product at any point, Iconic's is the one I would suggest.
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sns8778 said:
There's no one set answer there because people respond differently to androsterone.

Some people like androsterone and like the way that it makes them feel, others get some anxiety or moodiness from it.

I haven't used Androsterone in years and never will again bc it makes me want to cry and slap people, not necessarily in that order haha.

If you do decide to use an androsterone product at any point, Iconic's is the one I would suggest.
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Thank you.
The slapping people thing makes sense, but the crying seems strange, is androsterone estrogenic?
 
InItForGainz said:
Thank you.
The slapping people thing makes sense, but the crying seems strange, is androsterone estrogenic?
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I was kind of being humorous about the crying part - I noticed that my mood changes a lot with it and that I can be fine one minute and an hour later be very sad and down and nothing have happened to cause it.

Different things sometimes work different for different people, and it just wasn't an ingredient that was right for me.

My approach on supplements a lot of times is that I stack a lot of stuff - but my approach on hormonals is different. If I were going to do epiandro or epiandro/androsterone, I would suggest doing epiandro first to see what you feel from it and then maybe the next go round do a combination, that way you could see if adding androsterone makes it better or worse for you.

For people wanting Epiandro products in general, here is an update:
  • XPG Epiandro Gel - XPG is out, DPS is out, every other retailer that I'm aware of is out, except that Flexit may have a couple bottles left.
  • Muscle Addiction Epiandro Lean - Muscle Addiction is out. Some retailers have low stocks and will be out soon.
  • Muscle Addiction Epiandro300 - Muscle Addiction is out. Some retailers have low stocks and will be out soon.
  • CEL Stano-Plex 300 - stocks are getting low. It's about 50/50 whether it will sell out during the New Years Sales.
So for Epiandro Gel, Epiandro300, and Epiandro Lean - once any retailers that have stocks left sell out, that's it.

Stano-Plex 300 - if anyone is wanting to stock up, the New Years Sale will be a good time to do it.
 
sns8778 said:
I was kind of being humorous about the crying part - I noticed that my mood changes a lot with it and that I can be fine one minute and an hour later be very sad and down and nothing have happened to cause it.

Different things sometimes work different for different people, and it just wasn't an ingredient that was right for me.

My approach on supplements a lot of times is that I stack a lot of stuff - but my approach on hormonals is different. If I were going to do epiandro or epiandro/androsterone, I would suggest doing epiandro first to see what you feel from it and then maybe the next go round do a combination, that way you could see if adding androsterone makes it better or worse for you.

For people wanting Epiandro products in general, here is an update:
  • XPG Epiandro Gel - XPG is out, DPS is out, every other retailer that I'm aware of is out, except that Flexit may have a couple bottles left.
  • Muscle Addiction Epiandro Lean - Muscle Addiction is out. Some retailers have low stocks and will be out soon.
  • Muscle Addiction Epiandro300 - Muscle Addiction is out. Some retailers have low stocks and will be out soon.
  • CEL Stano-Plex 300 - stocks are getting low. It's about 50/50 whether it will sell out during the New Years Sales.
So for Epiandro Gel, Epiandro300, and Epiandro Lean - once any retailers that have stocks left sell out, that's it.

Stano-Plex 300 - if anyone is wanting to stock up, the New Years Sale will be a good time to do it.
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Exactly the kind of response I was looking for. Just ordered two bottles of Stano Plex, so will run that at 600mg for 8 weeks to test it out as a solo ingredient/supplement.
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InItForGainz said:
Exactly the kind of response I was looking for. Just ordered two bottles of Stano Plex, so will run that at 600mg for 8 weeks to test it out as a solo ingredient/supplement.
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Definitely should get some nice results from that 8 week run!
 
InItForGainz said:
I know that Stano Plex is an oral Epi with vaso 6 and Ultra Hard is a transdermal Epi with androsterone, but which is better for increasing DHT, improving overall mood and libido boost?
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Didn't read any reply's lol I'm lazy but topical Stano from Alpha Gainz 2ml -3ml a day works for me... horny to the point of annoyance ....wifes annoyance
 
InItForGainz said:
I'm on TRT (Clomid), adding Stano Plex shouldn't be a problem right?
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No, that wouldn’t be a problem. A lot of people use Stano-Plex on TRT.
 
As epi is the mildest prohormone, am I right in thinking that I won't need an on cycle support. I take Orange Triad and 2g of EPA&DHA as everyday staple health supplements
 
InItForGainz said:
Any recommendations?
I was going to use Cycle Assist, but it's out of stock
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Cycle Assist isn't out of stock. Where are you looking?

Edited this bc I was curious so checked stocks at most UK retailers to see who was out.

Predator is out, but has some on the way to them, but Unreal and Powermyself have it in stock.

Unreal Supps - https://unrealsupps.co.uk/competitive-edge-labs/cycle-assist/
Powermyself - https://www.powermyself.com/cel-cycle-assist-v2-180-caps.html
 
I see flexit has some expired epiandro lean on sale. Any issues taking it past the expiration date? I might stock up if it is being discontinued everywhere. For OP. I took stanoplex and noticed a mood and libido increase but have not tried ultra hard to compare it yet. It has been on my radar though.
sns8778 said:
I was kind of being humorous about the crying part - I noticed that my mood changes a lot with it and that I can be fine one minute and an hour later be very sad and down and nothing have happened to cause it.

Different things sometimes work different for different people, and it just wasn't an ingredient that was right for me.

My approach on supplements a lot of times is that I stack a lot of stuff - but my approach on hormonals is different. If I were going to do epiandro or epiandro/androsterone, I would suggest doing epiandro first to see what you feel from it and then maybe the next go round do a combination, that way you could see if adding androsterone makes it better or worse for you.

For people wanting Epiandro products in general, here is an update:
  • XPG Epiandro Gel - XPG is out, DPS is out, every other retailer that I'm aware of is out, except that Flexit may have a couple bottles left.
  • Muscle Addiction Epiandro Lean - Muscle Addiction is out. Some retailers have low stocks and will be out soon.
  • Muscle Addiction Epiandro300 - Muscle Addiction is out. Some retailers have low stocks and will be out soon.
  • CEL Stano-Plex 300 - stocks are getting low. It's about 50/50 whether it will sell out during the New Years Sales.
So for Epiandro Gel, Epiandro300, and Epiandro Lean - once any retailers that have stocks left sell out, that's it.

Stano-Plex 300 - if anyone is wanting to stock up, the New Years Sale will be a good time to do it.
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jtgoshaff said:
I see flexit has some expired epiandro lean on sale. Any issues taking it past the expiration date? I might stock up if it is being discontinued everywhere. For OP. I took stanoplex and noticed a mood and libido increase but have not tried ultra hard to compare it yet. It has been on my radar though.
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Were there any other noticable beneficial or side effets?
 
InItForGainz said:
Thank you.
The slapping people thing makes sense, but the crying seems strange, is androsterone estrogenic?
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Something doesn't have to be estrogenic to make you feel like crying. If Something gives you bad anxiety then there's a good chance it can do it. I'm not talking specifically about androsterone, but I have bad anxiety and I'd say a bad anxiety attack makes me wanna cry and punch someone in the face at the same time if there contributing to my anxiety attack. Most of the time it's my baby momma lol 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 
jtgoshaff said:
I see flexit has some expired epiandro lean on sale. Any issues taking it past the expiration date? I might stock up if it is being discontinued everywhere. For OP. I took stanoplex and noticed a mood and libido increase but have not tried ultra hard to compare it yet. It has been on my radar though.
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As a company, we can never suggest anyone to take expired products.

As an individual, my rule is that I generally will as long as it doesn't contain something that could convert to something completely different or have anything with milk or egg in it.

There are some other retailers that still have Epiandro300 in stock, but once they're out, they're out.

And there is still some stock on Stano-Plex 300 at the moment, but I think its possible it may sell out during the New Years Sales.
 
jtgoshaff said:
Increased vascularity and strength. More aggression and a shorter temper for the side effects but I was also taking 900mg+ when I was experiencing that.
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I agree.

At 600 mg. for me, I noticed a mood improvement.
At 900 mg.+, I lost the improved mood and noticed a shorter temper.
 
jtgoshaff said:
Increased vascularity and strength. More aggression and a shorter temper for the side effects but I was also taking 900mg+ when I was experiencing that.
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sns8778 said:
I agree.

At 600 mg. for me, I noticed a mood improvement.
At 900 mg.+, I lost the improved mood and noticed a shorter temper.
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Soooo, stay at 600mg 😂
I'm thinking 300mg twice per day, roughly 12 hours apart, same kind of timing as/with my Clomid doses.
 
SBH said:
Has a nice pre-workout effect also if you can work that in.
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So I've read. I was thinking of taking my morning dose at the same time as my clomid, on an empty stomach about an hour before breakfast, and the other in the evening with my pre-workout meal and other clomid tablet.
 
InItForGainz said:
So I've read. I was thinking of taking my morning dose at the same time as my clomid, on an empty stomach about an hour before breakfast, and the other in the evening with my pre-workout meal and other clomid tablet.
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Curious why 2x day clomid dose ?

You could but why as topical effects last longer as transdermal absorbs though the day and I don’t personally like dosing any thing stimulating like 3 epi ANDRO before bed time ..

I take Enclo which half life is like 10hrs but clomids half life is even longer like a week iso not sure why u would 2x a day dose it
 
Haterank74 said:
Curious why 2x day clomid dose ?

I take Enclo which half life is like 10hrs but clomids half life is even longer like a week iso not sure why u would 2x a day dose it
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There's probably no science to it, but personally, I feel like splitting the daily dose into two smaller doses reduces the side effects.
 
InItForGainz said:
Soooo, stay at 600mg 😂
I'm thinking 300mg twice per day, roughly 12 hours apart, same kind of timing as/with my Clomid doses.
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That’s what I would suggest - 1 capsule twice per day, spaced out 8 to 12 hours apart.
 
InItForGainz said:
There's probably no science to it, but personally, I feel like splitting the daily dose into two smaller doses reduces the side effects.
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How much clomid are you in day ? Why not switch to enclomophine they removed the zuclomiphine isomer which causes majority of e2 sides over time as it builds up . But to each there own
 
Haterank74 said:
How much clomid are you in day ? Why not switch to enclomophine they removed the zuclomiphine isomer which causes majority of e2 sides over time as it builds up . But to each there own
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It's not really a choice here in the UK, unless you can afford to pay for private healthcare.
 
InItForGainz said:
As epi is the mildest prohormone, am I right in thinking that I won't need an on cycle support. I take Orange Triad and 2g of EPA&DHA as everyday staple health supplements
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not sure I always run CEL Cycle Assist it just covers alot of things is the OG for cycle support IMHO and just makes this 42 year old feel better lol
 
I know that as it's a hormonal product it will differ from person to person, but how long does Stano-Plex (Epiandrosterone) take to kick in?
 
sns8778 said:
There's no one set answer there because people respond differently to androsterone.

Some people like androsterone and like the way that it makes them feel, others get some anxiety or moodiness from it.

I haven't used Androsterone in years and never will again bc it makes me want to cry and slap people, not necessarily in that order haha.

If you do decide to use an androsterone product at any point, Iconic's is the one I would suggest.
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Truly stand up as always, recommending a brand that is not your own, I knew I could trust you 🙇
 
My Cycle Assist arrived today.
How would you recommend I dose this in relation to my Stano-Plex and clomid (as I take together at the same times) as to not interfere with the DHT raising properties of the epiandrosterone.
@sns8778
 
Haterank74 said:
I just follow the bottle 3 am 3 caps pm
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I take 1 Clomid and 1 Stano-Plex when I get up in the morning and then the same at dinner, roughly 12 hours apart. But not sure if dosing the Cycle Assist at the same time(s) would negate some of the effects of the Stano-Plex.
 
InItForGainz said:
I take 1 Clomid and 1 Stano-Plex when I get up in the morning and then the same at dinner, roughly 12 hours apart. But not sure if dosing the Cycle Assist at the same time(s) would negate some of the effects of the Stano-Plex.
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I see what your saying I would dose it the same time that’s what I do and I’m on 11keto and stano TD 4ml a day

3 caps am 3 caps pm
 
InItForGainz said:
My Cycle Assist arrived today.
How would you recommend I dose this in relation to my Stano-Plex and clomid (as I take together at the same times) as to not interfere with the DHT raising properties of the epiandrosterone.
@sns8778
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It's not going to interfere with anything.

Take 3 caps twice per day, it can be the same time as the Stano or it can be at the same time as your regular morning and night vitamins if you have things that you take at different times.
 
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