Stano and Dermacrine?

Kratom267

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Wanting to run a 4 week cycle of DMZ...The caps are 16mg, so thinking 16/32/32/32. I have Cycle Assist and TUDCA, as well as Clomid.

I have a new bottle of Dermacrine and also have a small amount of LGI's "Stano 200" (only 30 caps @ 200mg per cap)...
Trying to combat the lethargy and testicular issues that come with running a strong ph like DMZ...Would Dermacrine help much with that? I know that clomid will bring the boys back to life/size, but while on cycle...shrinkage is no fun for anyone!
And would it be okay to run both Dermacrine and Stano together on cycle? I know the small amount of stano wont have much effect (if at all) but wondering if i should throw it in there anyhow.
Thanks.
 
Your balls will shrivel on cycle regardless; the only fix to that is hcg. Dermacrine and stano would help to minimize lethargy and libido issues, but don’t expect your balls to stay plump on cycle lmao
 
I’ve always seen dermacrine recommended for running a quick oral cycle. I’ve read a lot of positive things but have a hard time believing it actually works and makes it a smooth run.
 
Ive used Dermacrine once before, a few years ago, with a cycle of Msten...it seemed to help a bit with lethargy. Also, i found this online, not sure if its totally reliable or not, but...
"one of the ingredients 'Chrysin' (an isoflavone compound, derived from plants), which prevents the formation of oestrogen in the first place, by inhibiting the enzymes which perform aromatisation on the androgens, and so very much reduce the production of oestrogens from the steroids, hence reducing the effect upon the hypothalamus, and so upon the testes. Therefore, testicular shrinkage can be very much reduced, and so you are likely to be preserving that part of the function of your endocrine hormonal system."

Another idea floating around in bro science is to use a SERM while on cycle (as well as PCT of course), clomid or nolva on cycle is supposed to help out many side effects from PH's....not sure if i will go that route or not.

So, I will definitely be using Dermacrine with my DMZ, but what about adding in the small amount of Stano as well? Good idea, bad idea?
 
You're probably right, i was just thinking about starting out with one cap a day for the first week (16mg) or maybe just the first couple of days...

Honestly though, years ago when i first started using PH's, many people told me to 'up the dose', etc, etc...Only to find that it did nothing as far as gains go, and only increased the bad side effects. I know the idea of "if your going to be shutdown, might as well make the most outta it", but if upping the dosage only increases side effects...
Everyone is different, after all. Ive always seemed to notice that my body responds to PH's extremely well.
My first cycle was Hdrol, everyone said to dose it at least 75mg...I ended up doing 50mg for 4 weeks, worked out great! 15lbs gained (and kept).
Again, I will most likely be dosing 2 caps per day (16mg AM/16mg PM), and may up it to 3 per day if my body adjusted to it smoothly towards the last couple weeks.
Really wish the caps i bought were dosed differently...the 16mg seems strange.
 
Dermacrine is legit... just ran it with dmz and I was not lethargic one bit

Awesome to hear! I'm going to get bloodwork done this week and if all is well, Ill start my DMZ/Dermacrine cycle.
What dosage did you run of each and what is your body weight if you don't mind me asking?
 
I'm 168lbs - I ran 3 or 4 pumps a day... just felt deep into the cycle i needed 4 for good measure, lol - only called for 3 though.
 
I'm 168lbs - I ran 3 or 4 pumps a day... just felt deep into the cycle i needed 4 for good measure, lol - only called for 3 though.

Nice. Think ill start with 3 pumps and go from there...Did you split the pumps or all at once? Also what dosage did you run the DMZ? My caps are 16mg so I'm thinking 2 caps a day.
 
Nice. Think ill start with 3 pumps and go from there...Did you split the pumps or all at once? Also what dosage did you run the DMZ? My caps are 16mg so I'm thinking 2 caps a day.

30mg is my sweet spot-- sometimes I did 2 pumps in AM, 2 in PM - but i didn't notice a difference doing that vs all at once. I had to space accordingly to showering...etc.
 
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