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Stacking Methyl-1,4ADDiol

4-AD dermal, 1-Test dermal, 4-AD CYp (injectable), 1-Test Cyp (injectable), and a kickass diet and training program. Get Nolva for your PCT.
BTW, this is for bulking I suppose ?
 
Iron Warrior said:
4-AD dermal, 1-Test dermal, 4-AD CYp (injectable), 1-Test Cyp (injectable), and a kickass diet and training program. Get Nolva for your PCT.
BTW, this is for bulking I suppose ?
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thanks for the reply and yes it's for bulking
 
Seems like the effective dose of M14ADD as a standalone is +100mg/day. But, what's the dosage of M14ADD as a stack? half?
 
1test would be awesome. Trans or Cyp
 
Cant really say for the dosage with 1-test, but I am currently running 1500mgs of Pro-sust a week, and 80mgs M1,4add ED.

My thinking is why would you half the dosage? Then you will just be reducing effectiveness of the one compound you halved.

Just start relatively low and work your way up. Start at 60mgs and bump up every week until you feel you are at the optimal dosage.
 
I really dont think you want to stack another Methylated compound with M1T. Not with the liver toxicity issues with M1T. I would just stick to 4-ad with M1T.



chris1381 said:
How bout M1T and M14Add?
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chris1381 said:
What would be good to stack with m14add?
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I'm gonna be starting a stack next week of 200 mg 1-test cyp eod and m14ad 100mg ed.I was going to throw in a dermal 4ad but I decided to save it for wnenever I dip into allthe m1t I got stashed away.
 
How about stacking it with 10-12mg of m4ohn.

That's what I'm gonna do.
How much should one expect to gain in 4 weeks of m14add 60-80mg ed and 6weeks of 10-12 mg m4ohn ed?
 
TheManGuy said:
How much should one expect to gain in 4 weeks of m14add 60-80mg ed and 6weeks of 10-12 mg m4ohn ed?
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sounds like a great cycle. i'm planning the same one in july, but i'll probably end the last 2 weeks by adding M5AA after dropping the M14ADD to get a drier finish. i think this is a much better cycle than the MAD cycle you are planning on doing. let us know how it goes.
 
have you all been that impressed w/ the m14aa so far? I just started with
10mg m14aa bid
2.5mg m1t bid
planning to add some test or 4ad trans but I'm thinking i'm WAY too low if you guys are stacking at 80 and 100mg
 
DR.D said:
have you all been that impressed w/ the m14aa so far? I just started with
10mg m14aa bid
2.5mg m1t bid
planning to add some test or 4ad trans but I'm thinking i'm WAY too low if you guys are stacking at 80 and 100mg
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M14ADD better be a good bulker. i've not personally used it yet, but i was looking for a good methyl bulker to stock up on since MD is now a cutter :rolleyes:

Anyhow, your M14ADD dosage is way too low. people are using it at +100mg, so i would guess that you would need at least half of that if you are stacking it. good luck and let us know what happens.
 
Some people do respond well with the 30-60mgs range of M14ADD, so not everyone will need to use 100+.
 
Just curious:
How has M1,4add shown to effect the liver? 100mg+ seems like a lot - is this toxic?
 
Deoudes59 said:
Just curious:
How has M1,4add shown to effect the liver? 100mg+ seems like a lot - is this toxic?
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I wonder that myself, that's why I wanted to stay "low", I'll look into it somemore, I know diols are tough on the kidneys no doubt, I was really just looking for something to take with my m1t so I could keep it a bit lower. Dbol is perfect decause it increases dopaminergic activity and promotes wakefulness like few others. I don't buy the low test/estrogen lethargy theories on the m1t, I think its in the brain chemistry somehow because alpha1 stimulates are VERY effective against it. Problem is, you can't pop speed all the time!
 
I don't think we've even begun to understand the effects of M1T yet. The shutdown, the cholesterol-liver effects, and the gains are unlike any other compound.
 
bioman said:
I don't think we've even begun to understand the effects of M1T yet. The shutdown, the cholesterol-liver effects, and the gains are unlike any other compound.
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It's true bio, I've stocked up on m1t because even though the side are hardcore, it's the best anabolic I've ever used... solid gains, that stick around post cycle, and so potent! The key will be finding a way to use it in stacks so that doses can be keep low. People have been getting greedy with the dose and that is why they get so turned off to it. I love Dball so I was hoping that some m14aa experimentation w/ m1t might help. I'll put in some test too and letro if needed just as soon as I can assess the m14aa effectiveness.
Lance: I stepped up my m14aa from 20 to 40mg based on your stacking suggestion earlier... will keep posted.
 
I just thought of a killer cycle I wanna run next.

4ad transdermal week 3-6 400mg ed
m1,4add 80mg ed week 1-4 (I'll experiment with the dose, starting at 60 and working up to 100)
week 5-6 15mg m1t

Doesn't that just sound like an awsome cycle!!!! The ultimate bulker, without needels ;)
 
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